Support NeoGAF

[DarkKyo]

Did they say anything about cross-class abilities that the new jobs can use?

 

[Valor]

Minuet sounds good and makes sense. If you can stop moving and stabilise yourself, you would be able to fire stronger shots. Seems fair enough to me.

Auto attacks lead to a large chunk of total dps, and potency needs to be incredible to make up for missing auto attacks for a large chunk of time. From the brief video there's a huge amount of downtime between attacks in Minuet, so unless it increases your damage by like 200% or something stupid it looks like it would be a dps loss. Not gain.

 

[Qvoth]

Alright. How exactly do I become a BLM¿ I'm looking at the wiki and it doesn't seem to say anything. Do I have to take a quest once I'm 15ARC/30THM¿

once you finish your thm 30 quest, if you have archer 15 as well there should be a new quest on the npc inside the guild

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Auto attacks lead to a large chunk of total dps, and potency needs to be incredible to make up for missing auto attacks for a large chunk of time. From the brief video there's a huge amount of downtime between attacks in Minuet, so unless it increases your damage by like 200% or something stupid it looks like it would be a dps loss. Not gain.

I don't think they would add a DPS stance that makes you do less DPS than you would without it.

Thing is the information conveyed so far is really vague so we can't see the particulars and how things will actually function.

I want to see the numbers (for everything)!

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Auto attacks lead to a large chunk of total dps, and potency needs to be incredible to make up for missing auto attacks for a large chunk of time. From the brief video there's a huge amount of downtime between attacks in Minuet, so unless it increases your damage by like 200% or something stupid it looks like it would be a dps loss. Not gain.

They could change how autoattacks work/scale though, making them a lot less relevant and stuff. Could also be translation mistake.

 

[IvorB]

Translating on the fly is pretty tough/stressful.

Yeah especially when it's full of random, specialised jargon.

 

[Wilsongt]

Shit-disaster more like it.

Ooooooooooooo. Nice.

 

[Valor]

I don't think they would add a DPS stance that makes you do less DPS than you would without it.

Thing is the information conveyed so far is really vague so we can't see the particulars and how things will actually function.

I want to see the numbers (for everything)!

They could change how autoattacks work/scale though, making them a lot less relevant and stuff. Could also be translation mistake.

I want to see numbers too, but these are first impressions. That's what i feel right now, so I'm not super sold on Minuet. I wanted a dps stance and I'm sure it'll be fine, but I'm really skeptical at first glance/bad translation/explanations.

 

[aceface]

New Tri-Disaster!! Casts all 3 dots at the same time.

get hype

 

[Eldren]

"Tri Disaster wasn't living up to it's name so we changed the name" lmao

 

[IvorB]

Auto attacks lead to a large chunk of total dps, and potency needs to be incredible to make up for missing auto attacks for a large chunk of time. From the brief video there's a huge amount of downtime between attacks in Minuet, so unless it increases your damage by like 200% or something stupid it looks like it would be a dps loss. Not gain.

Yeah cancelling the auto-attack is pretty rough. No barrage too I guess. They must have had a reason for it though...

 

[SliceSabre]

Old Tri-Disaster is now Tri-Bind

There is now a new Tri-Disaster. Hahaha!

 

[Wilsongt]

ALL THE DOTS AT THE SAME TIME! \o/

The new egi...

*baited breath*

Fuck.

No new egi.

*table flip*

 

[Qvoth]

no new pets? HAHAHAHA

 

[aceface]

No new egis

Yoshi continues to shit on summoners

 

[Omnicent]

new egi... lol sorry smn. new pet skill though. be happy SE threw you a bone =P

 

[Eldren]

Sorry to SMN-GAF

 

[Stuart444]

Summoner

No New Egis

 

[Wilsongt]

First being shit on by too much skill speed, now no new egis.



Edit:

Powers of Bahamut?

Never mind. All forgiven.

 

[XenoRaven]

All four summoners in this game are gonna be really pissed. I hope they don't unsub. D:

 

[empressdonna]

Aetherflow now 60secs and no new egis means no new fairies for scholar

Edit: derp, forgot it is 60secs currently. Not played summoner/scholar in a while

 

[aceface]

But summoner gets Bahamut stance or something?!

 

[Omnicent]

hmm gain the power of bahamut.... hmmm. fuse with your smn? We Digimom S3 now?
Now sure anymore

 

[Valor]

No new egis. Rip. Instead you get to summon Bahamut. You know. Whatever.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Deadwyrm for deadclass.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

They could at least give the Egi's new models. Maybe when they get their new skills their appearance would upgrade into a more formidable form.

Or they could keep them at the same potato shapes as before (seems what they are doing, sorry guys).

 

[BLCKATK]

Holy shit Dreadwyrm Trance. I'M DOWN!

 

[Bittercup]

What was that about carbuncle? Can we use it again?
That would make me happy as a summoner.

 

[scy]

\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/

 

[BadRNG]

I totally called that fuse-with-egi mechanic! That could be cool.


Also did holy just heal. Holy spam getting even better.

 

[Omnicent]

so an aoe regen field where you heal inside it? hmm
dps and healing at the same time sheeeiiit. So how about some other mana restoring abilities? no... oh well

 

[SliceSabre]

Oh an Aoe healing area!?

An attack that heals and attacks at same time!?

A DoT attack!?

White Mages gonna be dpsing in dungeons runs more often! GLORIOUS

 

[aceface]

Sounds like they are making WHM into scholar.

So what's scholar now?

 

[TastyOreoFriend]

So now SMN to renamed Dragon caster/ Dragon Invocateur? They may as well at this point. Only SMN in the franchise to only get 3 actual summons and limited interaction with them lol

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Sounds like they are making WHM into scholar.

So what's scholar now?

Scholar can unsummon the fairy to heal or something, which sounds like the most terrible idea ever, but that's what it looked like in the teaser video.

 

[aceface]

Everyone gets enhanced protect now, yay.

 

[aceface]

None of this scholar stuff makes any sense. Except I get to sacrifice fairy?? ;______;

Edit: yay, doublepost

 

[Frumix]

"Let's just homogenize healers as much as possible" - YoshiP
What in the world is this.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

The scholar changes sound like a large amount of nothing.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

It's a shame about no new egis, was looking forward to having a Levi egi.

 

[XenoRaven]

Scholar can unsummon the fairy to heal or something, which sounds like the most terrible idea ever, but that's what it looked like in the teaser video.

It's not a terrible idea if you have swiftcast or you're changing fairies.

 

[Wilsongt]

Eos being dumb? Just sacrifice her.

 

[SliceSabre]

Scholar: ".....We dunno we'll figure it out layer."

 

[Qvoth]

well they have new classes to promote, of course they're going to make them differ the most

 

[BadRNG]

Scything kicking them when they're down. For shame.

"Let's just homogenize healers as much as possible" - YoshiP
What in the world is this.

A developer that cares about balance?

 

[IvorB]

Astrologian looks so goddam flashy.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

I wouldn't judge based on what we're hearing right now since it's too vague. It seems like there's some difficulties with the translation so I'm looking forward to a detailed write up and/or English translation of the in-game skills.

 

[SliceSabre]

AST is simply half WHM and half Sch.


Wow....

 

[Baleoce]

I still don't like the overall makeup of SMN in this game.

Too much emphasis on master damage. If anything you should put up debuffs etc on enemies as master that weaken the mobs vulnerability to your pets moves. And you can throw up the debuffs tactically. Idk. Will have to see how it plays in 3.0, Seen as it is staying like this, I'm glad for SMN in general that they're streamlining DoT application though. No new egis boo.

 

[Frumix]

A developer that cares about balance?

It used to be about synergy and complementation.