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Final Fantasy XIV Reviews - GameSpot 4/10, GameTrailers 4.2/10, GameSpy 2/5, IGN 5.5
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demosthenes
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Orin GA said:
500,000 people don't pay $12/month for a game that sucks for over 8 years.
Oh I see, you don't like it so the game sucks. Mind telling me what other games I should buy?
demosthenes
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Orin GA said:
Fair enough.
And on XIV, the core is good. There is potential, just like FFXI, and FFXI changed a ton even in the first 2 months. I'm not saying it's excusable to release a game as unfinished and unpolished as FFXIV, but that's why I keep playing. Yea it's not a great game right now but I'm still having fun with GAF people and that's what matters most. Hopefully SE follows a similar pattern for XIV that they did with XI.
MomoPufflet
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I enjoy FFXIV but I completely agree with the poor reviews. In fact, the bad press is the best thing that could happen to the game. It will actually motivate them to make it better-- faster. Would it have been better if they'd not rushed it in the first place? Sure, but they did, so now we need bad reviews to kick them in their collective asses. I don't understand why some fans are whining about the bad reviews. They are a good thing.
demosthenes said:Fair enough.
And on XIV, the core is good. There is potential, just like FFXI, and FFXI changed a ton even in the first 2 months. I'm not saying it's excusable to release a game as unfinished and unpolished as FFXIV, but that's why I keep playing. Yea it's not a great game right now but I'm still having fun with GAF people and that's what matters most. Hopefully SE follows a similar pattern for XIV that they did with XI.
I think they need to be quicker this time around. I dont see a lot of people sticking around after the free 30 days if a lot of these issues are still present.
PS3 launch for this is practically a second chance. If they want that to succeed at all, they need to improve the word of mouth right now so the PS3 players can actually hear some of the good these next few months.
CE owners first bill date is next Friday. That gives them 9 days to finally square this shit up some.
Salaadin said:
While we're on the subject of the PS3 version I feel that will be one of the things that will hold this game back not really in the long run, but right now in this time gap that is so crucial. They need to not split their time with a PS3 port and need to focus and zero everyone in on completing the actual game first.
They could just pull a FFXI with FFXIV and a year from now release teh PS3 version with all the updates AND a free expansion pack to boot with it. This would be the best thing for this game honestly.
The Praiseworthy
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FFXI is a Fantastic supper fun to play game.... the game has it's own charm and Magic that make it feels very special.
I dunno, the PS3 is much better suited to an MMO than the PS2 ever was, even after add-ons. I don't think it'll hold the game back much. For now though, the PS3 version is quite literally vaporware. They need to fix the PC version before they even think about trying to shovel this game onto another platform.
The Praiseworthy said:
The best parts of FFXI for me were the storyline missions and how rewarding that game felt. It's not often a game makes you feel accomplished, but few things come close to getting your Rajas Ring from CoP back in the day or beating Alexander from ToAU.
In the 6 years I played it on and off I couldn't put it down or stay away from it even when I "quit." I'm still trying to figure out how FFXIV is by the same team that made FFXI...it just doesn't make sense.
BertramCooper
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I just skimmed through this thread, and some of the Square apologists are unbelievable.
Guys, you shouldn't expect an MMO to be any good when it's released. You have to stick it and out wait patiently for them to fix it. All while continuing to pay your monthly subscription.
Guys, you shouldn't expect an MMO to be any good when it's released. You have to stick it and out wait patiently for them to fix it. All while continuing to pay your monthly subscription.
demosthenes
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zlatko said:The best parts of FFXI for me were the storyline missions and how rewarding that game felt. It's not often a game makes you feel accomplished, but few things come close to getting your Rajas Ring from CoP back in the day or beating Alexander from ToAU.
In the 6 years I played it on and off I couldn't put it down or stay away from it even when I "quit." I'm still trying to figure out how FFXIV is by the same team that made FFXI...it just doesn't make sense.
Haha yeah.
If I still had my account I'd turn it on and transfer to the GAF server but I have no idea where my stuff is
demosthenes
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Vinci said:
What MMOs besides XI and XIV can you play one character and every class? I wasn't aware of any.
RocketDarkness
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Hahahah NO. Don't get me wrong, I prefer to play keyboard-only, but I still need to use the mouse for certain things. I do not enjoy attempting to tab through 30+ things on screen trying to target the enemy that's about to kill one of your party members.Khrno said:
DaBuddaDa said:
What's sad is that I had someone made fun of me because I was talking of FF14 before it released and when the first user reviews started popping he was all "ahahaha FF14 sucks!" and I was all "those are just users review, they don't count!" and then Gamespot hit with the 4, and then the poor reviews keep on coming.
Continuing like this, not even in March, IF a PS3 version gets released by then, this game will be good enough as I hoped and worth my money.
demosthenes said:
UO would allow it, but not in the same fashion. My point was that other games should have emulated that, but I wasn't aware of any doing so.
EDIT @ Lain: It's not really the same though. You don't lose everything on FF XI if you decide you want to level a different class. UO, last I played it, required that you diminish one aspect of your character to build another. I still prefer skill-based games, like UO, but considering how many class-based games have come out since, I'm shocked no one has stolen the idea from XI.
demosthenes
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Vinci said:
And this is why I'll stick with XI or XIV, I want this system.
I lost all my XI stuff so I'm not going back to that :lol so I'm hoping XIV gets fixed up :lol
Vinci said:
Well, yeah, it was more, let's say, primitive, in UO compared to the way FFXI did it, but that's also because in UO there weren't real classes, your stats dictated what you could do.
But in a way, we could say UO did it first letting you change what you wanted to be as you pleased, while FFXI did it better later (and the job changing in FFXI was one of the aspects I liked the most about it and why I was so interested in XIV and the weapon letting you switch jobs mechanic).
Lain said:
I wouldn't say that it was 'primitive,' just a natural inclusion for a skill-based system to have. I mean, generally speaking, they didn't want people walking around after grandmastering every damn thing. That would've been ridiculous. I mean, they thought the tank mages were bad...
The point is, what UO did was fundamentally different from what FF XI did, so it's hard to really say that UO did it first because... they're done for very different reasons.
Actually, EVE allows you to train any skill as high as you want - but it takes fucking ages. :lol
demosthenes said:
Star Wars Galaxies allowed you to do this when it originally launched. You gained experience as one profession or two at once then remove those and level up something else . They did away with that in the current setup. However you can still respec to a completely different class by way of items or money (gets more expensive every time you do it). The original system was a LOT better. Like said there was also UO too. XI and XIV weren't the first to have systems like this.
demosthenes
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Despera said:
No, just no.
bloodydrake
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Ploid 3.0 said:Wow, check this out, all of the copy past wasn't even circled. It's like the designer went crazy with dropping up to 5 environment shapes in the map. Crystal tools problem?
thats some crazy Never Winters Nights tileset shit right there,that is.
Rahxephon91
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Blizzard is doing something like that...Londa said:
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Londa said:
I don't think anyone is expecting them to do anything after such an abysmal launch. People are just enjoying how much of a mess the game is.
Rahxephon91 said:
how long has that game been out compared to FFXIV?
FFXIV hasn't had an expansion yet. Thinking you going to get them to redesign (I'm not talking about UI fixes an other things, I'm talking about terrain, redesigning the world) a new game is like thinking you will get a whole new house because your window broke. It aint happening.
Yaweee said:
And they have so much money that they can use it as they like. FFXI's money can't fund more than 4 games :lol (FFXI expansions, XIII, XIV, Versus) in a 5 years time.
Zefah said:
Some other people are actually enjoying how fun the combat, armory, leve and crafting systems are.
Opinions, opinions.
Rahxephon91
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It took them a long time to do it, but that's not the point. They did it to improve the game. If Square was really devoted and cared about the game, I don't think it would be crazy for them to fix up the terrain. I'm not so crazy us to think they are going to fix this right away, I just don't think they should leave it hanging.Londa said:
And your comparison dosen't work. If I break a window in my house, I still don't have much choice in living there and will deal with it accordingly. If FFXIV is broke I can simply leave it as easy as pie.
Rahxephon91
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Final Fantasy fans sure are crazy.
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