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Final Fantasy XIV Reviews - GameSpot 4/10, GameTrailers 4.2/10, GameSpy 2/5, IGN 5.5
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Vampire Baseball
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I love WoW a ton, but in trying to keep an open mind, I went into the game to find some proof and prove Londa's point. What I found might disturb and offend you:
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fizzelopeguss
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It's her who starts this shit btw.
Boney said:
I don't think it's so much her comments that it doesn't bother her that cause all the replies.
It's more when she says things like "you only think that because you're a WoW fanboy" or "other games do this too." Instead of just copping to the problems, there's always a slant that the bias always comes from the detractors.
Vampire Baseball said:I love WoW a ton, but in trying to keep an open mind, I went into the game to find some proof and prove Londa's point. What I found might disturb and offend you:
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This may sounds really dumb asking this but:
What are those things? Are those bushes? I'm not even joking on this one.
Vampire Baseball
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Londa said:
They're copy-pasted bushes.
notworksafe
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notworksafe
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They are the 1st and 2nd Birthday now, okay?TheSeks said:
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Exactly! How can you hate on a game where you play as this intimidating asshole?Londa said:
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Himuro said:
That article does say that the story is just a "rumor". I wouldn't be surprised, though.
fizzelopeguss
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sky said:
Yup.
Orin GA said:
ew can't stand that girl's voice. ella ella eh eh :lol
prove that I lie about anything I've said and I'll play this song at high volume while my ears bleed.
Himuro said:
I agree.
Square hasn't been relevant to me for a generation. Sad. :/
Nope.avi.mp3.dll.exe.gif.jpg.png.7z.zip.rar
They'll be PE1/2 and 3 in my hearts.
notworksafe
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We're actually still waiting on those pics, videos, and circle maps.Londa said:ew can't stand that girl's voice. ella ella eh eh :lol
prove that I lie about anything I've said and I'll play this song at high volume while my ears bleed.
Haunted said:
Theoretically, yes. I've only had a few chances this month to sit down and play this for an extended period of time, however, and would've liked to make as much crafting progress as possible with the time available to me.
While I'm sure the hardcores would've capped just about everything by now if they were allowed to (and more power to them, I say let them), at the same time casuals who just want to make the most of the time they have to play aren't allowed to do that, either. What started as an idea to keep the playing field level between casuals and hardcores ended up in practice as the hardcores making sure they've done all their leves (and anyone else's they can group with) in between every reset and casuals who just want to log in and solo/craft a bit when they can being restricted by the same system if their schedule doesn't perfectly coincide with the reset timer. The divide between the two groups remains, all it really does is make it harder to catch up.
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Londa said:ew can't stand that girl's voice. ella ella eh eh :lol
prove that I lie about anything I've said and I'll play this song at high volume while my ears bleed.
So someone needs to provide a screenshot or video of every area in WoW (or other MMORPG) to prove you wrong. You claim that you can find what you're talking about in "any screenshot or video". If it's that easy, how about you prove that you aren't full of it?
Ploid 3.0
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sky said:
For comparison here is North Gustaberg from FFXI. It's right outside of a starting area so it had to have been there at launch of FFXI.
Video walkthrough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gNy6mCdZ48
Here's a map made much later after FFXI launch. Bhaflau Thickets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD4AQ4ltPp8
Hard to spot copy paste?
you have the internet, go find it for yourself. I'm not going to make a circle map of games because I don't waste my time hating on games to prove a point. I'm also not going to make a video montage of copy and paste in games to also prove my point. I have better things to do. Like play FFXIV.
notworksafe
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Called it!Londa said:
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Zomba13
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Wow. That really puts the ffxiv maps in perspective. That's tiny compared to the FFXIV zones. Like really tiny. They really are like FFXI regions.Ploid 3.0 said:For comparison here is North Gustaberg from FFXI. It's right outside of a starting area so it had to have been there at launch of FFXI.
Video walkthrough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gNy6mCdZ48
Here's a map made much later after FFXI launch. Bhaflau Thickets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD4AQ4ltPp8
Hard to spot copy paste?
demigod
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Orin GA said:
Those 2 are lovers, I bet they're on the same servers!
WoW has copy pasted buildings and monsters but rarely the terrain. FFXI has a TON of copy pasted monsters, really all you fought back then were crabs until ToAU. It also has a ton of copy pasted dungeons. Fei Yin and Delkfutt anyone? Not only that, they also use the same zones for dynamis,limbus(promies), abyssea, etc. Of course its because of PS2 limitations. The game looks great but its poorly optimized, I lag to hell on my GTX 295 in Besieged/Campaign. EQ in my opinion has the best designed dungeons and the zones do not look copy pasted at all.
FF14 copy/paste looks very bad. How do you differentiate where you're going? For a game that currently has only what, 5 zones(?) tells me that the devs are lazy as hell. What on earth have they been doing with this game for 5+ years? Still waiting for that video btw Londa.
Ploid 3.0
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Londa said:
FFXIV is the only MMORPG that copy paste to this degree, fact. Don't believe me? Tough cookie, find the facts yourself, I'm too busy playing pong right now.
You can't blame these places for copy paste, they aren't natural environments. They had to be built, and with any man made/alien made structure you will find boxes, angles, symmetry.
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Londa said:
You don't need to make a circle map or video montage. You said earlier that all you have to do is look at any video or picture and you will see terrain copy/pasted to the extent (if not more so than) FFXIV. None of us believe this claim and ask you to provide a link to back it up. You made the claim. Back it up.
Also, what is up with people and their "don't have the time" excuse? It's such a completely immature cop out that I don't really even know how to respond. Also, it certainly doesn't ring true when you are furiously posting on a message board in an effort to defend your game of choice from any and all criticism.
If you make a claim, be prepared to back it up or don't bother at all.
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Zomba13 said:
...and full of a whole lot of nothing.
Mr. Enigma
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This thread is hilarious. :lol
Zefah said:
What happens most of the time is. I make one comment. 5 people reply to that comment. So I can't reply to those comments because someone , some how, will read into is as defending the game or looking as if I furiously post on the boards?
Posting on the forums while playing isn't hard. atm I just bought some smithy gloves so I can have a easier time crafting.
Ploid 3.0
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The maps are bigger than the picture map seem. The scale is right, but you can't tell the scale from the clear and understandable map. The FFXI maps are very easy to read (not counting jungle haha). You want a huge map?
That's one from off the top of my head. You see these black dots? They are bigger than your party lined up next to each other. There's a ton of walking here, good thing there are chocobos. Also maybe the fact that FFXIV is on new hardware that don't need zones factor in. Maybe 4 of FFXI connecting zones could be made into one map if it was on the same specs. This game was made years ago.
Back to copy past search.
That's one from off the top of my head. You see these black dots? They are bigger than your party lined up next to each other. There's a ton of walking here, good thing there are chocobos. Also maybe the fact that FFXIV is on new hardware that don't need zones factor in. Maybe 4 of FFXI connecting zones could be made into one map if it was on the same specs. This game was made years ago.
Back to copy past search.
notworksafe
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What happens is all of the time you make a preposterous blanket claim about something with no proof at all and then expect everyone to take you at your word. Then you refuse to back it up with even the slightest bit of effort and claim that it's other people being lazy. Eventually after enough hassling, you play the victim card and cry that everyone is against you because of your silly comment and refusal to back it up. Or you lash out and go on a screed about the supposed "WoW fanboys" and the vast Western conspiracy and bias again S-E and FFXIV.Londa said:
Sounds a bit closer to reality and it's happened in every FFXIV related thread I've seen from announcement, to alpha, to beta, and to release.
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Londa said:
You're deranged if you truly find this odd. How could anyone not see your often ridiculous posts as anything but you furiously defending the game.
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