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[copelandmaster]

Some of the camping footage is in the game but it's oddly not voiced. I don't think anything with food is new though at least I haven't seen anything yet.

Oh, I just meant the food.

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Finished the opening scene and uh Noctis's voice sounds the same. It's still complete shit. And dammit I did not want to be reminded of that dialogue. It's sometimes like a bunch random words thrown in a blender. But let's how this plays.

 

[Jinroh]

Is it normal that it stays for more than one hour in "preparing to download" status? Or is there something wrong with my PS4?

 

[Falk]

Malaysian internet is too slow to even consistently watch streams.

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

 

[SoraanTribal]

Do you have to start the demo over or can you actually keep your old save file too? I guess you can upload your save and make a new game, then bring back your old save if you wanted more than one.

 

[raven777]

That mid combo backflip is too smooth. Lookin like Lightning

You couldn't do that in the previous version right? What triggers it?

holding certain direction on your left analog (in case of that backflip, is holding down) and attack

Do you have to start the demo over or can you actually keep your old save file too? I guess you can upload your save and make a new game, then bring back your old save if you wanted more than one.

you can continue your old save.

 

[KTallguy]

Love that title change

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Finished the opening scene and uh Noctis's voice sounds the same. It's still complete shit. And dammit I did not want to be reminded of that dialogue. It's sometimes like a bunch random words thrown in a blender. But let's how this plays.

Only new scenes have Noctis's new voice.

 

[SoraanTribal]

you can continue your old save.

Ah okay. I wish they let us have multiple save files.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Malaysian internet is too slow to even consistently watch streams.

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I feel your pain bro.

Still can't download the demo. South Asian internet sucks =/

 

[LouisaFerre]

They sorta did.

Press L1 as just before getting hit for no MP cost.

But you can still use the guard stance just as before, right?

My point is that for game balance the guard stance should be made less viable. I know the L1 button can't be held down forever but I don't feel like the mp cost is that much of a deterrent especially if it consumes the same amount throughout the full game. Also, the bolded doesn't address my point that a parry/counter attack should instead be accessible exclusively through timed dodges, so it serves as a reward for a higher risk, more skilled style of play.

 

[Kagari]

Malaysian internet is too slow to even consistently watch streams.

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Can't be worse than my work PC running IE 8...

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Only new scenes have Noctis's new voice.

Which scenes are new?

 

[FalsettoVibe]

I'm ready to get off work and test the changes myself.

 

[GreenMakoEyes]

does the tutorial explain something new in 2.0? If not I'll load my old save.

 

[Falk]

Can't be worse than my work PC running IE 8...

You get to go home and play the demo.

I'm stuck here for a couple more weeks minimum.

does the tutorial explain something new in 2.0? If not I'll load my old save.

IT TELLS YOU HOW TO DODGE

HOW TO DODGE, BRO

 

[Lifejumper]

WOW. The combat feels much improved. They even changed the dodge particles back to the e3 combat demo. Megaton.

 

[GreenMakoEyes]

but.. but.. I know how to dodge. Or did they tell you finally how to knightguard?

 

[Edzi]

So does the combat feel slightly less automatic? I liked the original combat, but wasn't a fan of how you could just hold down the button and have Noctis auto combo forever with one of his swords.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

That's a nice little detail when you soft lock it tells you R3 for hard lock on

 

[Socivol]

Are their more soldiers that get dropped off in this version? Everytime I get in a battle with them it seems pretty overwhelming.

 

[raven777]

So does the combat feel slightly less automatic? I liked the original combat, but wasn't a fan of how you could just hold down the button and have Noctis auto combo forever with one of his swords.

yes. now depending you directional input the combo changes. Also you can dodge roll without worrying about MP.

 

[squadr0n]

Is Square still firm on their decision not to release this demo to the general public ever? Not even down the road lol. IS there still a viable way to pick up this demo and get FF Type-0 with it.

 

[Ishida]

yes. now depending you directional input the combo changes. Also you can dodge roll without worrying about MP.

But doesn't that make it a lot easier? I mean, with the auto-dodge you had to take care of your MP bar, not abuse it and be more careful. Now that we have the roll without any kind of cost, I'm afraid the combat will be easier....

 

[Ray Down]

Is Square still firm on their decision not to release this demo to the general public ever? Not even down the road lol. IS there still a viable way to pick up this demo and get FF Type-0 with it.

Grab a physical copy of the game.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Watching stargateheaven's stream.

The parry looked smoother to me. I always had an issue with how it looked before because it just seemed rough. It looked as if the attack was already making contact with Noctis, but then all of a sudden his sword would appear and force the other attack back as if it never made contact in the first place and would just look weird. This gif of the old version shows off what I mean. If you slow it down, you can definitely see it. (I got to see it slowed down because my internet was being slow )

I don't know if it's because the timing of the streamer i'm watching is just better, but it looked a lot smoother than that gif.

 

[raven777]

But doesn't that make it a lot easier? I mean, with the auto-dodge you had to take care of your MP bar, not abuse it and be more careful. Now that we have the roll without any kind of cost, I'm afraid the combat will be easier....

It is a lot easier now.

 

[wmlk]

But doesn't that make it a lot easier? I mean, with the auto-dodge you had to take care of your MP bar, not abuse it and be more careful. Now that we have the roll without any kind of cost, I'm afraid the combat will be easier....

There's supposedly less MP now.

 

[Falk]

But doesn't that make it a lot easier? I mean, with the auto-dodge you had to take care of your MP bar, not abuse it and be more careful. Now that we have the roll without any kind of cost, I'm afraid the combat will be easier....

The dodge roll appears to be more sluggish than, say, KH.

Need some extensive testing to see what kind of invincibility frames it gives.

Squeenix aint stupid though - vast majority of the 1.0->2.0 changes make the combat so much better that if it's a problem it's gonna be dealt with

Spoiler

inb4 with feedback

And yeah, not surprising that combat will be easier overall after Japanese feedback rofl

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Just right off the bat this combat is so nuch more fluid.

 

[raven777]

dodge roll is not godly evade maneuver like KH BBS.

 

[Socivol]

edit: nope it is different

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Testing out the new tour option.

 

[jett]

dodge roll

That shit seems OP. I don't understand the point of the roll to be honest. Doesn't the entire combat system revolve around using MP to evade attacks?

 

[Aeana]

Great. Played for a while to do some of the things I never did in 1.0, in my end-of-demo save, and then after choosing to return to my rest point, the game errored out and I lost all of that progress.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Watching stargateheaven's stream.

The parry looked smoother to me. I always had an issue with how it looked before because it just seemed rough. It looked as if the attack was already making contact with Noctis, but then all of a sudden his sword would appear and force the other attack back as if it never made contact in the first place and would just look weird. This gif of the old version shows off what I mean. If you slow it down, you can definitely see it. (I got to see it slowed down because my internet was being slow )

I don't know if it's because the timing of the streamer i'm watching is just better, but it looked a lot smoother than that gif.

It isn't just you, the parry is definitely more smooth.

 

[Boss Mog]

Is it me or does the game run a lot worse than before? It feels like 20fps and then still has slowdown with dips that feel like 10fps.

 

[Falk]

Is it me or does the game run a lot worse than before? It feels like 20fps and then still has slowdown with dips that feel like 10fps.

sorry it has to be asked - XB1 or PS4?

 

[jett]

Noctis still sounds gruff as fuck.

Placebo certainly is a thing.

 

[Icyflamez96]

That shit seems OP. I don't understand the point of the roll to be honest. Doesn't the entire combat system revolve around using MP to evade attacks?

I forgot, what's the difference between the dodge roll and the teleport dodge anyway?

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Noctis still sounds gruff as fuck.

Placebo certainly is a thing.

He has a new voice in the new scenes apparently.

 

[Kagari]

The dodge roll appears to be more sluggish than, say, KH.

Need some extensive testing to see what kind of invincibility frames it gives.

Squeenix aint stupid though - vast majority of the 1.0->2.0 changes make the combat so much better that if it's a problem it's gonna be dealt with

Spoiler

inb4 with feedback

And yeah, not surprising that combat will be easier overall after Japanese feedback rofl

JP too casual.

 

[nikos]

Streaming here, if anyone is interested in watching. Hope it all comes back to me. http://www.twitch.tv/heartofbattle/

 

[Boss Mog]

sorry it has to be asked - XB1 or PS4?

PS4

 

[Icyflamez96]

So what's up with those fast dog things that everyone hates fighting

 

[DigtialT]

So what's up with those fast dog things that everyone hates fighting

Camera seems to follow them much better, not as big a pain in the ass to fight anymore.

 

[Socivol]

If you want to fight the dinosaur thing you have to

Spoiler

go on a tour with Prompto

. I wasn't expecting that and was killed immediately.

 

[raven777]

So what's up with those fast dog things that everyone hates fighting

it's A LOT easier to fight. The camera tracks better, and once you start hitting he doesn't move around like crazy.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

They backed the camera a bit which makes things better now also that cross attack thing reminds me of limit breaks from FF8

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Liking the tours. I thought no amount of improvements from 1.0 could get me to like this game becuase of the problems I had with it, but 2.0 is pretty decent. Now if only they could get some proper writers/localizers...