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[Tyaren]

What the Type-F is great for is taking aerial shots. Too bad it's not possible to fly over Gralea or Altissia though

Funny thing is, I have yet to see one single screenshot from someone of the Type-F Regalia in the air. (Either it seems to look really underwhelming or people just don't care?)
I would've taken some screens, if I ever got the flying Regalia. Now I actually restarted the game from the beginning and I will take my sweet time to finish it.

 

[Meowster]

Funny thing is, I have yet to see one single screenshot from someone of the Type-F Regalia in the air. (Either it seems to look really underwhelming or people just don't care?)
I would've taken some screens, if I ever got the flying Regalia. Now I actually restarted the game from the beginning and I will take my sweet time to finish it.

It's too much of a hassle. Instant game over if you don't land it perfectly. 💀

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Funny thing is, I have yet to see one single screenshot from someone of the Type-F Regalia in the air. (Either it seems to look really underwhelming or people just don't care?)
I would've taken some screens, if I ever got the flying Regalia. Now I actually restarted the game from the beginning and I will take my sweet time to finish it.

You know there's giant invisble walls? And loading screens? Not worth it. Plus instant game overs.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Type F?

here. Though its not a shot lol. Didn't bother indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVeaVDBtXo

Landing at the secret strip. Its a shitty vehicle. I reverted back to the normal car when I completed Pitioss. Flying is useless.

There also wasn't the beautiful stargazing quest with Ignis and later with all of the bros anymore. :/

Instead we got the cooking minigame with Ignis which I actually never found/tried out.

I got it at Leide, close to hammerhead. All you do is wiggle LS to left and right about 2 instances.

 

[LiK]

The bromance is pretty much the best thing about this game.

 

[Falk]

It's too much of a hassle. Instant game over if you don't land it perfectly. 💀

At least you don't have to re-take the screenies though :V

 

[formasymphonic]

Type F?

here. Though its not a shot lol. Didn't bother indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVeaVDBtXo

Landing at the secret strip. Its a shitty vehicle. I reverted back to the normal car when I completed Pitioss. Flying is useless.



I got it at Leide, close to hammerhead. All you do is wiggle LS to left and right about 2 instances.

What is this cooking mini game you all speak of? And how do I turn the regalia back into its original form? I find the type-F super ugly and over designed tbh

 

[SkylineRKR]

What is this cooking mini game you all speak of? And how do I turn the regalia back into its original form? I find the type-F super ugly and over designed tbh

Speak to Cindy for the Regalia.

Cooking minigame is noctis taking care of the soup for once. Like with Gladios minigame, he doesn't want to do it every day.

 

[OrionX]

Random thought: Wish we'd gotten more time with Aranea. Her voice actress and character were great, definitely main cast worthy. She seemed to switch sides ridiculously fast, but I'm glad she didn't get brushed aside like her other former allies.

Also yass at the return of Biggs and Wedge! <3

 

[Edzi]

Been thinking about the ending some more, and I really hope we get more of Ardyn's backstory later on. I want to know the details behind the Izunia name, though I'd be cool with either of the two outcomes that people seem to have settled on. If Izunia was the original surname name of Noctis's family who were then promoted to Lucis Caelum (which would seem to be more of a title that the God's bestow on their ruling family) to serve the God's, then that would really hit home the point that those two lines were just used and thrown away by the Gods. On the other hand, if Izunia was the first name of someone already in the Lucis Caelum line who betrayed Ardyn and took his place as King, then that adds another layer to his betrayal, since it was his own family that abandoned him which also ties Noctis and Ardyn closer together.

I just wish I didn't have to speculate so much.

 

[OrionX]

Yeah I'd really like to know more about Ardyn's past, it seems really interesting.

In my head, I like the idea that Ardyn was a first born son in the Lucis line, meant to be one of the first Kings of Lucis, but his younger brother Izunia betrayed him and took his rightful place on the throne when the Gods turned their back on him. That would make Ardyn Noct's distantly related uncle. I have nothing to support that obviously, I just love a good family feud. lol

 

[Ishida]

Yeah I'd really like to know more about Ardyn's past, it seems really interesting.

In my head, I like the idea that Ardyn was a first born son in the Lucis line, meant to be one of the first Kings of Lucis, but his younger brother Izunia betrayed him and took his rightful place on the throne when the Gods turned their back on him. That would make Ardyn Noct's distantly related uncle. I have nothing to support that obviously, I just love a good family feud. lol

I honestly prefer the idea of Izunia being from an entirely different family. I love the idea that Noctis' family were not originally of Royal blood, but rather "stole" into Royalty thanks to the asshole Crystal and gods.

 

[OrionX]

I honestly prefer the idea of Izunia being from an entirely different family. I love the idea that Noctis' family were not originally of Royal blood, but rather "stole" into Royalty thanks to the asshole Crystal and gods.

Yeah when you frame it that way I do like that angle too. A scene or something showing Ardyn's origin would've been nice. I mean some stuff is fine left up to the imagination, but I'm usually the type that prefers to have the facts.

 

[Edzi]

Yeah when you frame it that way I do like that angle too. A scene or something showing Ardyn's origin would've been nice. I mean some stuff is fine left up to the imagination, but I'm usually the type that prefers to have the facts.

The only reason I don't prefer the idea that Noctis is from a second family is because it kind of cheapens the whole feeling of class, power, and nobility you get from the Knights of the Round, Regis, and even Noctis himself. I'd prefer it if Ardyn was a part of the same line.

 

[Ishida]

The only reason I don't prefer the idea that Noctis is from a second family is because it kind of cheapens the whole feeling of class, power, and nobility you get from the Knights of the Round, Regis, and even Noctis himself. I'd prefer it if Ardyn was a part of the same line.

I feel the opposite. I think it plays into the theme of "you are not born a King, you become one".

Like the Izunias probably were not of Royal blood originally, but grew to be the greatest Kings of the land.

But that's just me. I can see where you two are coming from, though.

 

[Parshias7]

The final scene can turn out so dorky if you choose an inapropiate picture. The devs really took a leap of faith into the player's heart.

Just imagine Luna watching the picture:

"I should buy a new set of boobs" and Noctis looking at her thinking "yeah, about time".

I've been going back and forth between bringing a picture of Ardyn or a picture of Cup Noodles.

 

[Ran rp]

Iris had the best voice acting in the game...

And I took that scene as a her being coy and flirty, because she acts quite different when she's around her brother and the rest of the party. She's obviously into Noct, but the game never beats you over the head with it, and I actually appreciate that approach.

oh good. from what i hear iris turned out to be a decent character.

 

[SkylineRKR]

The only reason I don't prefer the idea that Noctis is from a second family is because it kind of cheapens the whole feeling of class, power, and nobility you get from the Knights of the Round, Regis, and even Noctis himself. I'd prefer it if Ardyn was a part of the same line.

They are still chosen by the gods.

Ardyn tainted himself and was cast aside. If this was his own method of dealing with the scourge or ordered by the gods I don't know for sure. If its the second, then he's being used as a tool. They replaced him with another.

Now, this new guy did demonize and strip Ardyn of his identity which makes it a bit complicated as Ardyn had already fallen from grace and replaced by the gods. But he had demons inside of him, so it was probably a normal thing to do like they burnt witches at the stake.

 

[Edzi]

They are still chosen by the gods.

Ardyn tainted himself and was cast aside. If this was his own method of dealing with the scourge or ordered by the gods I don't know for sure. If its the second, then he's being used as a tool. They replaced him with another.

Now, this new guy did demonize and strip Ardyn of his identity which makes it a bit complicated as Ardyn had already fallen from grace and replaced by the gods. But he had demons inside of him, so it was probably a normal thing to do like they burnt witches at the stake.

I know, which is why my original post said I like both possibilities.

 

[OrionX]

One of the reasons I like Noctis and Ardyn being related is because it would mean that the Gods and the Crystal are responsible for elevating the Lucis line to greatness, and for sowing the seeds of that family's destruction, all for the sake of cleaning up a mess that they were probably responsible for in the first place. (Assuming Ifrit started the starscourge)

It's no wonder this was originally Versus XIII, since both stories have to do with the Gods using men as instruments of their will. But while Lightning ultimately defied her Gods, Noctis' story was about embracing the path they set him on.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Hiroshi Minagawa (FF12, currently FF14 UI design) is credited as superior for both dragon quest builders and FF12 Zodiac Age. This could mean FF12 Zodiac Age is being developed by BD5. The game also puts Ito as supervisor and apparently it is not just a empty title: he is actively involved in balancing the game according to the E3 interview. So it makes sense that Ito is with BD 5.

Weren't they just referring to his involvement in the original FFXII: International on PS2?

 

[jimmypython]

Weren't they just referring to his involvement in the original FFXII: International on PS2?

If I recall correctly Ito wasn't mentioned in the credits for The Zodiac Age in the initial announcement.

Yes, they could very much mean this when asked about Ito's role. I will find you the interview link later (at work now).

 

[shiba5]

I've been going back and forth between bringing a picture of Ardyn or a picture of Cup Noodles.

I think I'll pick one of the photos I have of the dog.
Cup Noodles is a good one too.
Too bad the game doesn't acknowledge "bad" photo choices.

 

[Koozek]

Final Fantasy XV:Character Information from Key Development Staff

 

[TissueBox]

Final Fantasy XV:Character Information from Key Development Staff

Kind of old but nevertheless, I approve of this approach:

When designing chocobos, our goal was to make them so cute that they could be liked by anyone, while simultaneously depicting them as realistic creatures.

 

[Ran rp]

Final Fantasy XV:Character Information from Key Development Staff

punished moogle

 

[Ruff]

Information from a "Researcher" who claims to know how the original storyline was going to unfold

Take it with a grain of salt, but a lot of it does seem to make sense with all the stuff that was cut even as close back as Episode Duscae

 

[Edzi]

Information from a "Researcher" who claims to know how the original storyline was going to unfold

Take it with a grain of salt, but a lot of it does seem to make sense with all the stuff that was cut even as close back as Episode Duscae

While interesting, I kinda prefer the core of the story we got, especially with Ardyn's part.

 

[Ran rp]

Information from a "Researcher" who claims to know how the original storyline was going to unfold

Take it with a grain of salt, but a lot of it does seem to make sense with all the stuff that was cut even as close back as Episode Duscae

"and it actually prematurely ages us and you can even see pictures of King Regis growing a horn out of his head"

who wants to bet they made this up based on regis' crown thingy

 

[Lunafreya Nox Fleuret]

Information from a "Researcher" who claims to know how the original storyline was going to unfold

Take it with a grain of salt, but a lot of it does seem to make sense with all the stuff that was cut even as close back as Episode Duscae

Does the researcher work for SE? He just said a random girl. It could be anyone and made up.

 

[Ruff]

Does the researcher work for SE? He just said a random girl. It could be anyone and made up.

Hence the quotes and why I said to be skeptical. Even though a lot of it does fit it could all be as fake as global warming (lol)

 

[DiipuSurotu]

I love all these "leakers" and "researchers" on FFXV. Next step is gonna be the "conspirationists"!

 

[Ran rp]

truthers

 

[Tyaren]

Information from a "Researcher" who claims to know how the original storyline was going to unfold

Take it with a grain of salt, but a lot of it does seem to make sense with all the stuff that was cut even as close back as Episode Duscae

The Faustian deal with the Devil theme was actually what I thought the story of FFXV would turn out to be. I felt assured by the Omen trailer, especially by Regis' and the crystal's short conversation but was surprised it was really nothing like that in the end.

 

[Lights and Waves]

One of the reasons I like Noctis and Ardyn being related is because it would mean that the Gods and the Crystal are responsible for elevating the Lucis line to greatness, and for sowing the seeds of that family's destruction, all for the sake of cleaning up a mess that they were probably responsible for in the first place. (Assuming Ifrit started the starscourge)

It's no wonder this was originally Versus XIII, since both stories have to do with the Gods using men as instruments of their will. But while Lightning ultimately defied her Gods, Noctis' story was about embracing the path they set him on.

Interesting point. Also worth pointing out that in the XIII mythos, Etro (the patron fal'Cie of Insomnia) is the only "good" god of that Universe and the only one that cares about humans.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Noctis should have told the gods to fuck off and allied with Ardyn to destroy them or something. He already took care of Ifrit.

 

[Lights and Waves]

Fascinating tidbit from Tabata regarding the mythos of XIII and XV

There are two main reasons for [using the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythos]. The first is that the world of FFXV was originally designed with these elements and links to the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythology in mind. When we came to reajust the game and change it from Versus XIII to XV, we felt it was much better to keep them in there and incorporate them in a very natural way, rather than try and remove all of them at any expense. We'd lose a lot of the world and its attraction if we did that. But why we decided to remove all the specific terminology from FFXIII was because, if you start the story and we introduce these words and ideas from the start, people will think it's still very much part of the FFXIII world. So you'd lose some of the identity as FFXV, and we really want to avoid that. Instead, we decided to not use this specific terminology and to introduce the language of the game in an easy and understandable way, that anyone can follow when they get into the game from there.

&#8212;Hajime Tabata in an interview during the 2015 Gamescom event, as recorded in English by Finaland.

So essentially they just relabeled the majority of the terminology, but also removed the idea of Etro as a diety of the Insomnia.

Hm...now that I think about it, you do have to fight the eidolons before you can use them in XIII. Just like in XV.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Guys I wrote another thing

This time about Ardyn

 

[TissueBox]

Information from a "Researcher" who claims to know how the original storyline was going to unfold

Take it with a grain of salt, but a lot of it does seem to make sense with all the stuff that was cut even as close back as Episode Duscae

Well I would love to see this girl's video and assess the info then when it's most coherent. Even if she's not lying (about her researching all this and being fluent in Japanese) I would like to see a source-by-source outline.

In other matters, I realize how much I like to entertain the meta-angle of 'insomnia' symbolizing the development hell of the game and the end with Luna and Noctis finally sleeping representing it finally reaching completion, or waking up, ie the cure for insomnia or something. I know, I'll stop. xP But still. The seemingly squandered dream motifs leave me grasping lol.

 

[Koozek]

One of the reasons I like Noctis and Ardyn being related is because it would mean that the Gods and the Crystal are responsible for elevating the Lucis line to greatness, and for sowing the seeds of that family's destruction, all for the sake of cleaning up a mess that they were probably responsible for in the first place. (Assuming Ifrit started the starscourge)

It's no wonder this was originally Versus XIII, since both stories have to do with the Gods using men as instruments of their will. But while Lightning ultimately defied her Gods, Noctis' story was about embracing the path they set him on.

Shit, yeah, I'm seeing the FNC origins.

Quick questions:

1. Why has no one before Noctis gotten rid of the scourge?
2. Why was Ardyn banned when he really solved the problem, which the kings and oracles roles were created in the first place? Or what were those even for?
3. Why don't the gods just protect Eos and get rid of the scourge themeselves? I mean, the Crystal and all that came from them.
4. Why didn't Shiva or the others just kill Ifrit themselves, anyway?

 

[Mythos]

Some people say that Regis was talking to Bahamut in the Omen Trailer, but that really doesn't make sense to me at all

Regis : How many must die before you are satisfied ?
??? : I have seen many deaths but now i'm only looking forward to one. And then i can rest.
Regis : He will take responsibility you know.
??? : As must all.
Regis : .. May the gods forgive me.

First, why would Bahamut need to rest? And why would Regis say, after talking to Bahamut "may the gods forgive me"?

So, who else could he have been talking to? Ardyn? First i thought he was talking to Ardyn, but i don't think Ardyn can talk through a Crystal. Who else is left? Ifrit?

I also found this on the net, with a theory, that Ifrit was sealed inside the Crystal.

 

[Tyaren]

Shit, yeah, I'm seeing the FNC origins.

Quick questions:

1. Why has no one before Noctis gotten rid of the scourge?
2. Why was Ardyn banned when he really solved the problem, which the kings and oracles roles were created in the first place? Or what were those even for?
3. Why don't the gods just protect Eos and get rid of the scourge themeselves? I mean, the Crystal and all that came from them.
4. Why didn't Shiva or the others just kill Ifrit themselves, anyway?

1. No king before Noctis was actually a "Chosen One" by the gods. Only Ardyn, thousands of years ago, and he shared that destiny. Only they could defeat the Starscourge.

2. We only know what happened back then from Ardyn's point of view, which might be slightly biased. He told us, that the gods forsake him after they saw him as tainted/corrupted by absorbing all demons in his body, which made him also super powerful. I'd be turned off by that too, lol. And the king Izunia was apparently jealous of Ardyn's fame and power and role as the Chosen One. That's why that king also stole Ardyn's name for his own line.

3. No idea...maybe it's just a game to them? Let the humans fight it out.

4. Why would gods kill each other over mere humans?

 

[Edzi]

Guys I wrote another thing

This time about Ardyn

Nice summary of the current theories. I missed this part you mentioned though:

The group remarks upon storming Insomnia at the end of the game that Ardyn's name should appear in history, and that he should be among the kings presented in the mural in the Insomnian castle.

So I'll have to search for the cutscene/dialogue myself.

 

[Zimmy64]

Am I missing something regarding Final Fantasy XV's Story? Like many people I was surprised when Square Enix announced that they would be adding new cutscenes to FFXV. I was remember listening to the Beastcast and Jeff Gerstmann saying something about character motivations being missing. Having completed the game last night I'm confused about what Jeff (and the rest of the internet) think is missing. I think the story is good and complete (with one glaring exception).

That exception is obviously Jared. His death comes out of nowhere and the player response is radically different from Noctis's. When he dies Jared is more or less a generic NPC so the fact that the story wants you to care so much is really jarring and to me come off as almost humorous as opposed to devastating. There are a couple other scenes I could see them adding.

1. Ravus (specifically his arm)- Ravus is a mostly developed character, however the party mentions something about his freakish strength and arm on the boat to Altissa and then the point is never mentioned again. In addition if he was faithful to Luna throughout the entire game then why does he agree/want to be the commander of the imperial forces in the first place

2. Aranea-I actually think Aranea is a fully developed character but would think that some more backstory would be cool (not necessary as I said this is more of a want not a need)

3. The Emperor-His place in the story and relationship to Ardyn is really weird. He's just underdeveloped in general, however I think that might be the point. His minimal role in the story shows that in the end he really doesn't matter and him and the entire empire are really just pawns of Ardyn.

The Three party members could use a little more development. What was Gladio doing in Chapter 6 and 7? Prompto being an MT comes out of nowhere and isn't foreshadowed at all. Considering it tends to be a major point (especially in chapter 10) I think it would be more powerful to actually see Ignis get wounded and blinded in Altissia and fail to stop Ardyn rather than just hear about it.

I also have some more questions that I would like to get clarified

1. Is the Starscourge a recurring thing?
2. Does every King have to go through the same journey Regis and Noctis did?
3. Does every King have to fight an "accursed" at the end of their journey?
4. Is Ardyn the only "accursed"?
5. If Ardyn is the only "accursed" (I'm leaning this way because Regis didn't die at the end of his journey) than why did he wait so long until Noctis to fulfill his plan (why was he the chosen one, instead of say Regis or one of their other ancestors). Is is because Ardyn thought Noctis would be easier to defeat than Regis or any of the previous kings?

Overall though the only glaring missing character motivation I see is Jared's and Ravus's arm to a much lesser extent. So Gaf, am I missing something? What scenes, character motivations, explanations does everyone think is missing that poses such a problem that Square Enix would go back and add them to the game after it's already shipped?

By the way, love the game. Not sure if its a 9 or a 9.5 until I think about it some more and Adult King's Rainment Noctis is the best design in the entire series and might be Nomura's best design period. Looks like there is quite a meaty postgame so I can't wait to do that.

 

[Edzi]

1. Is the Starscourge a recurring thing?
2. Does every King have to go through the same journey Regis and Noctis did?
3. Does every King have to fight an "accursed" at the end of their journey?
4. Is Ardyn the only "accursed"?
5. If Ardyn is the only "accursed" (I'm leaning this way because Regis didn't die at the end of his journey) than why did he wait so long until Noctis to fulfill his plan (why was he the chosen one, instead of say Regis or one of their other ancestors). Is is because Ardyn thought Noctis would be easier to defeat than Regis or any of the previous kings?

Overall though the only glaring missing character motivation I see is Jared's and Ravus's arm to a much lesser extent. So Gaf, am I missing something? What scenes, character motivations, explanations does everyone think is missing that poses such a problem that Square Enix would go back and add them to the game after it's already shipped?

1. No, it seems to have been something Ifrit started long ago that resulted in the demons.
2. Possibly to get the royal arms, but that's about it.
3. No, since there's only one Ardyn.
4. Yes, he's the only accursed.
5. Noctis is the chosen King, meaning he's the one that will be infused with all of the crystals/old kings power. Ardyn wants to defeat Noctis in this "final" stage, to end the line and get the last laugh in the Gods' game.

As far as Ravus' arm goes, I thought it was fairly straightforward. He gets a replacement magitek/demon infused arm, which eventually ends up killing him after the whole starscourge/demon outbreak in the empire. I believe we find him stabbed by his own sword, which is held by the demon arm.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Nice summary of the current theories. I missed this part you mentioned though:



So I'll have to search for the cutscene/dialogue myself.

If you find it, let me know. It was this thread that alerted me to that scene, actually.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

I've been going back and forth between bringing a picture of Ardyn or a picture of Cup Noodles.

I had to be physically restrained from taking a black and white vanity shot of the Cup Noodles with me into the afterlife.

They still showed up in the credits though, fortunately right when the crescendo in Stand By Me hit. Brought a tear to my eye.

 

[Tyaren]

1. Is the Starscourge a recurring thing?
2. Does every King have to go through the same journey Regis and Noctis did?
3. Does every King have to fight an "accursed" at the end of their journey?
4. Is Ardyn the only "accursed"?
5. If Ardyn is the only "accursed" (I'm leaning this way because Regis didn't die at the end of his journey) than why did he wait so long until Noctis to fulfill his plan (why was he the chosen one, instead of say Regis or one of their other ancestors). Is is because Ardyn thought Noctis would be easier to defeat than Regis or any of the previous kings?

1. Ifrit let the Starscourge loose because of his hatred for humans. Only two times though. For the first time when Ardyn was around and thousands of years later when Noctis was around. This time in collaboration with Ardyn.

2. No, only Ardyn and Noctis were Chosen Ones by the gods. The other Lucian Kings were just inheritors of the crystal and ring.

3. No, just Noctis had to fight Ardyn, the one and only Accursed.

4. Yes.

5. We don't really know. It probably took Ardyn some time to get all wheels into position. Infiltrate the Empire and become the Chancellor, make a deal with Ifrit to bring about a new Starscourge, wait for the next Chosen One aka Noctis, defeat Lucis... There was a lot to plan for Ardyn. And he did well. He achieved everything he wanted in the end.

 

[OrionX]

Guys I wrote another thing

This time about Ardyn

That was really well written. That basically sums up why Ardyn's one of my favorite villains in the series. You have to read into some of his backstory, but he definitely has a tragic story to tell, like a lot of characters in the game. And I love the fact that most of the time he masks that darkness with a charming exterior.

Shit, yeah, I'm seeing the FNC origins.

Quick questions:

1. Why has no one before Noctis gotten rid of the scourge?
2. Why was Ardyn banned when he really solved the problem, which the kings and oracles roles were created in the first place? Or what were those even for?
3. Why don't the gods just protect Eos and get rid of the scourge themeselves? I mean, the Crystal and all that came from them.
4. Why didn't Shiva or the others just kill Ifrit themselves, anyway?

1. I guess they needed the accumulated power of a long line of Lucian Kings? Also chosen one blah blah preordained blah destiny.
2. The Gods are assholes
3. The Gods are assholes
4. The Gods can't be killed?

 

[thematic]

I have many questions about the story and I probably will read this 207 page thread later but I need to ask 1 question :

how is Luna and Noctis alive at the end?