An MMO never endstehee
Actually the main scenario can end. FFXI for example just finished its story. And XIV treats each expansion as individual full games.
Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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Actually the main scenario can end. FFXI for example just finished its story. And XIV treats each expansion as individual full games.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
That would have been so incredibly out of place. I can imagine it now.
Death
Tragedy
KIMI NO KOI WO KIKERU~
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
14 did end with the meteor crashingAn MMO never ends
SuperSaiyanAkuma
Banned
Anyone else not enjoy the way magic is handled in this iteration? Didn't really feel like there was a lot of variety with the spells.
Did you redeem a preorder bonus?
The Emperor
Member
True that looked spectacular
I look forward to finding out when I play it then. Will have a job within a year hopefully so can afford the monthly fee lol
Oh so that's why I couldn't find an item I redeemed in my inventory.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Lightning Returns broke that trend actually because the game didn't have a vocal song in the end
probably ran out of budget lol
The Emperor
Member
Oh did it! You know I still haven't finished that game lmao. Clearly no budget because as far as I remember it didn't even have a theme song attached to it haha.
For as much as I loved XIII....I disliked both XIII-2 and LR:FFXIII but I just know I need to finish it for the feels. I have heard the ending is pretty emotional (the ending theme and end credits themes are both fab anyway haha)
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Does everyone agree at least that they nailed the ending?
Everything that happened there, including the mid-credits campfire scene as well was just beautiful.
I am still trying to process what happened. For me this is one of those cases where the game is going to linger in my thoughts for a while before I can move on.
Everything that happened there, including the mid-credits campfire scene as well was just beautiful.
I am still trying to process what happened. For me this is one of those cases where the game is going to linger in my thoughts for a while before I can move on.
The Last One
Member
This is happening to me right now. The scene in the credits is so powerful because you already know that Noctis died.
The Emperor
Member
Literally started to have a borderline emotional crisis now.
Star Wars Ep VII and FFXV
Two things I have looked forward to from mid 2000's
After Revenge of the Sith released in 2005 I was merely 12 years old and I knew we would get a new Star Wars film some day...and of course Versus XIII's showing from the year 2006 finally bore fruit 10 years later.
Feels so weird.
Feels like I need to finally grow up or move on with life now.
The type of enthusiasm you feel when you're young and looking forward to something for ages with immense hype feels like it may never return
Oh wait...there's the FFVII remake haha
Star Wars Ep VII and FFXV
Two things I have looked forward to from mid 2000's
After Revenge of the Sith released in 2005 I was merely 12 years old and I knew we would get a new Star Wars film some day...and of course Versus XIII's showing from the year 2006 finally bore fruit 10 years later.
Feels so weird.
Feels like I need to finally grow up or move on with life now.
The type of enthusiasm you feel when you're young and looking forward to something for ages with immense hype feels like it may never return
Oh wait...there's the FFVII remake haha
The Last One
Member
Literally started to have a borderline emotional crisis now.
Star Wars Ep VII and FFXV
Two things I have looked forward to from mid 2000's
After Revenge of the Sith released in 2005 I was merely 12 years old and I knew we would get a new Star Wars film some day...and of course Versus XIII's showing from the year 2006 finally bore fruit 10 years later.
Feels so weird.
Feels like I need to finally grow up or move on with life now.
The type of enthusiasm you feel when you're young and looking forward to something for ages with immense hype feels like it may never return
Oh wait...there's the FFVII remake haha
FF VII Remake and KH III. I'm waiting for VII remake since 2005 and KH III since 2006, so I'm "good" lol
The Emperor
Member
Haha awesome! And true I guess I can latch on to the FFVII remake now (not that I wasn't hyped for it anyway).
Emotional crisis averted for a further 10 years phewww...
Obviously not everyone agrees,but yes as far as I've seen the ending seems to overall be the most well liked part of the story easily, specifically the campfire. It helps that both of Noct's VA's knocked it outta the park and his facial animation was amazing.
You notice he had a haircut in the flashback scene when the car wrecked?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Just finished the game...
Everyone gripes about chapter 13, which I do feel like it deserves it, but chapter 9 was far worse to me. The leviathan fight was the biggest pile of jank I've seen in a long time. 13 was a slog that limits combat, but I already fucking hated the combat so just limiting the combat didnt really make it any worse, just more of a slog. The ring was OP anyway, could march right through every enemy with just holy, and as long as you only use holy you never run out of MP either, and 1 shot iron giants with the one spell just by running away first.
Of course when holy breaks dudes weapons you get stupid shit like this: https://youtu.be/Lt3cLnpftIo
And then you cant kill them until you have full MP. At least for me anyway. I couldnt use death on them since Id run out of MP before the spell actually killed them, I had to use the full MP spell/
Since I'm in the spoiler thread though:
I couldnt give fuckall about Noctis, Gladio, and Ignis throughout this game.Noct starts out as a brat, moves to having no personality, then becomes an insufferable brooding twat after chapter 9.
Gladio is just there most of the time, and others hes just a prick. Before fighting Titan Noct goes "I'm tired of all this walking" which made really no sense at the time but w/e and then Gladio just freaks the fuck out. "I'm tired of all your whining!". I have no idea what the fuck brought that on. Noct hasnt been whining, he hasnt been doing fucking anything. Gladio does this again in the later chapters too.
Ignis then basically nothing. Hes there, gets blinded by who fucking knows what cause, and then acts as some sort of anchor to a dispute in the final chapters that makes no sense to be happening.
The chapters post 9 show a game truly rushed to its conclusion. Chapter 9's meetings in Altissia showed some decent promise to a political game storyline, but this chapter just says fuck it and ends the entire political game and just has Ardyn start immediately taking everything over.
Ardyn mightve actually been a good villain if it wasnt so rushed. If the game wouldve let the Empire continue to be the villain for a while longer, really play up the emperor and and their conquest before Ardyn actually swooped in. Let Noctis group feel some victory against Niflheim before Ardyn ruins it. Let the Niflheim characters actually do something. That early scene showing the empire had 5 people in it. The emperor, Ravus, Aranea, the balding guy with the beard whose name I dont even know, and one more I forgot. What the hell even happened to the last two. Where was their chance to even be villains. I dont remember them in a single scene after that. Meanwhile Ravus becomes a pile of nothing and a shitty boss fight, the emperor becomes a random demon boss, and Aranea is...well on to other side characters.
This game is as bad as FFXIII with side characters. They are so close to irrelevant its ridiculous. Aranea had some decent quips and potential, but shes barely in the game. Iris feels completely inconsequential (though her little walk around quest was decent world and character building), Cid is just there for a quick reminiscence and Cor was....why was Cor even there? He just tells you to find some swords and apologizes for Regus's death and thats it. And of course Luna, fridge girl.
With the Luna topic again, why the hell does this game want to try and make you care about shit after the fact. First with Insomnia and King Regis's death, then with Jarod's death (LOL), and next with Luna. Theres like 3 or 4 scenes in the last 4 chapters of Luna flashbacks. Here with her wedding dress talking about marrying Noct and being happy with the arrangement, Her with Ravus talking about getting the ring to Noctis, and at least one more I already forgot. Why is this shown after she died? The character was so damn worthless that if you at least gave her this screen time earlier you couldve maybe given people some reason to care about her before shes just offed. Then this whole random flashback happens at the very end of the game. After the first credits the game flashes back to the final camp ground and has Noct getting all emotional. I figured this was going to be him letting the guys know that he had to throw his life away to kill Ardyn, but he just says some sappy shit that kindve alludes to it. Idk, it was dumb, but it shouldve actually been shown during the final camping to actually add something going into the final battle.
The game feels so desperate to give you "feels" without ever actually earning it. Especially with how much is off screen. The guys showing up in the afterlife was random as fuck when the last time we saw them they were just preparing to fight off some demons. They held off an absurd horde in chapter 13 so that shouldnt have been any trouble, but nope they actually died.
Then the post credits scene. What the fuck was up with that. Was it the afterlife? If it is why does the afterlife look exactly like Eos post World of Ruin and has the sun coming up due to Noctis's action. Did noctis save a mirror after life at the same time? Was it some weird time shenanigans based on his actions and thats why hes young again? Seriously, what the fuck was the point
At least him and Luna got to look at that sweet picture of Aranea.
I'm just done...that was a terrible game, it joins Final Fantasy II as the only mainline games in the series I just straight consider bad games.
I had this picture in the catalog from when Noctis firsts wakes up after the time skip and hes sitting and looking at the ground and he looks like Sad Keanu. I wish I wouldve used that picture as it perfectly wouldve summed up the game
Everyone gripes about chapter 13, which I do feel like it deserves it, but chapter 9 was far worse to me. The leviathan fight was the biggest pile of jank I've seen in a long time. 13 was a slog that limits combat, but I already fucking hated the combat so just limiting the combat didnt really make it any worse, just more of a slog. The ring was OP anyway, could march right through every enemy with just holy, and as long as you only use holy you never run out of MP either, and 1 shot iron giants with the one spell just by running away first.
Of course when holy breaks dudes weapons you get stupid shit like this: https://youtu.be/Lt3cLnpftIo
And then you cant kill them until you have full MP. At least for me anyway. I couldnt use death on them since Id run out of MP before the spell actually killed them, I had to use the full MP spell/
Since I'm in the spoiler thread though:
I couldnt give fuckall about Noctis, Gladio, and Ignis throughout this game.Noct starts out as a brat, moves to having no personality, then becomes an insufferable brooding twat after chapter 9.
Gladio is just there most of the time, and others hes just a prick. Before fighting Titan Noct goes "I'm tired of all this walking" which made really no sense at the time but w/e and then Gladio just freaks the fuck out. "I'm tired of all your whining!". I have no idea what the fuck brought that on. Noct hasnt been whining, he hasnt been doing fucking anything. Gladio does this again in the later chapters too.
Ignis then basically nothing. Hes there, gets blinded by who fucking knows what cause, and then acts as some sort of anchor to a dispute in the final chapters that makes no sense to be happening.
The chapters post 9 show a game truly rushed to its conclusion. Chapter 9's meetings in Altissia showed some decent promise to a political game storyline, but this chapter just says fuck it and ends the entire political game and just has Ardyn start immediately taking everything over.
Ardyn mightve actually been a good villain if it wasnt so rushed. If the game wouldve let the Empire continue to be the villain for a while longer, really play up the emperor and and their conquest before Ardyn actually swooped in. Let Noctis group feel some victory against Niflheim before Ardyn ruins it. Let the Niflheim characters actually do something. That early scene showing the empire had 5 people in it. The emperor, Ravus, Aranea, the balding guy with the beard whose name I dont even know, and one more I forgot. What the hell even happened to the last two. Where was their chance to even be villains. I dont remember them in a single scene after that. Meanwhile Ravus becomes a pile of nothing and a shitty boss fight, the emperor becomes a random demon boss, and Aranea is...well on to other side characters.
This game is as bad as FFXIII with side characters. They are so close to irrelevant its ridiculous. Aranea had some decent quips and potential, but shes barely in the game. Iris feels completely inconsequential (though her little walk around quest was decent world and character building), Cid is just there for a quick reminiscence and Cor was....why was Cor even there? He just tells you to find some swords and apologizes for Regus's death and thats it. And of course Luna, fridge girl.
With the Luna topic again, why the hell does this game want to try and make you care about shit after the fact. First with Insomnia and King Regis's death, then with Jarod's death (LOL), and next with Luna. Theres like 3 or 4 scenes in the last 4 chapters of Luna flashbacks. Here with her wedding dress talking about marrying Noct and being happy with the arrangement, Her with Ravus talking about getting the ring to Noctis, and at least one more I already forgot. Why is this shown after she died? The character was so damn worthless that if you at least gave her this screen time earlier you couldve maybe given people some reason to care about her before shes just offed. Then this whole random flashback happens at the very end of the game. After the first credits the game flashes back to the final camp ground and has Noct getting all emotional. I figured this was going to be him letting the guys know that he had to throw his life away to kill Ardyn, but he just says some sappy shit that kindve alludes to it. Idk, it was dumb, but it shouldve actually been shown during the final camping to actually add something going into the final battle.
The game feels so desperate to give you "feels" without ever actually earning it. Especially with how much is off screen. The guys showing up in the afterlife was random as fuck when the last time we saw them they were just preparing to fight off some demons. They held off an absurd horde in chapter 13 so that shouldnt have been any trouble, but nope they actually died.
Then the post credits scene. What the fuck was up with that. Was it the afterlife? If it is why does the afterlife look exactly like Eos post World of Ruin and has the sun coming up due to Noctis's action. Did noctis save a mirror after life at the same time? Was it some weird time shenanigans based on his actions and thats why hes young again? Seriously, what the fuck was the point
At least him and Luna got to look at that sweet picture of Aranea.
I'm just done...that was a terrible game, it joins Final Fantasy II as the only mainline games in the series I just straight consider bad games.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I must be a cold-hearted monster....because I did not like the final campfire at all. Felt too forced and...predictable? I'm not sure what the word is I'm looking for. But it had 0 emotional impact on me.
Type-0, Crisis Core and even The 3rd Birthday did that to varying extents, so FFXV is deviating from more than one trend. I hope Tabata's new IP returns to killing off the entire cast to upbeat J-pop.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Expect it to be a game with a half-assed story with a gloomy ending like all his other games lol.
25 hrs to beat it, 55 hours to platinum it. Wish they forced you to do all the extra dungeons in post-game for an achievement!
That jumping dungeon though... took me 3-4 hours even with a YouTube video in front of me, and I probably died 300-500 times. Screamed out expletives several times, those damn checkpoints...
That jumping dungeon though... took me 3-4 hours even with a YouTube video in front of me, and I probably died 300-500 times. Screamed out expletives several times, those damn checkpoints...
NoctisVsStar
Member
He looks like Jon Snow
Fixed that for you.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Oh, didn't realize you were actually doing a full review. I eagerly await it!
Good luck with the airship part though
I like the campfire part. Not huge on the rest of it honestly.
Giftofgab24
Member
So what's up with the post credits wedding scene with Noctis's name on the throne and Luna standing next to him in a white dress(don't remember if it was the wedding dress)? Does that mean they're together in the afterlife? Did they both get brought back to life? I don't get it.
You ever see the ending to Titanic?
NoctisVsStar
Member
It's a what if scenario if everything went according to plan.
I wouldn't have minded if Too Much is Never Enough played during that last segment tbh..
Giftofgab24
Member
It's been a while....so it was like a dream sequence?
Ohh, and i hated Gladio btw. No matter what i did, he was yelling at me for no reason, gosh how annoying he is. I wish i could silence him!
There where many scenes where i had to think of past ff games. Even at the end, when he went to afterlife to kill Ardyn, i had to think immediately of Cloud going inside of him to kill the last cell of Sephiroth.
There where many scenes where i had to think of past ff games. Even at the end, when he went to afterlife to kill Ardyn, i had to think immediately of Cloud going inside of him to kill the last cell of Sephiroth.
The Last One
Member
Some VII influences too. The Midgardsormr in your way to the cave for example.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Same thought on both points. My main complaint about the 4 friends is that because they are so friendly and similar they lack conflict. And watching 4 people who don't have conflict with each other is boring as shit. So when they tried to introduce conflict with Gladio it felt very forced, and he only came off like a complete asshole.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
As much as I have criticisms of the ending of Type-0 (and really the whole game), I love that Bump of Chicken song. The song ending this game is alright I suppose.
The ff theme is alright?
Mattakuevan
Member
Nah man. They're both together in the afterlife.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I was referencing the F+tM song that plays over the credits actually.
As much as people praised the soundtrack, and joked about that "unremarkable" comment from a review, I did find most of it to be unmoving. It certainly didn't do enough to make me stop playing the FFXI OST over it!
semiconscious
Member
Vincent Alexander
Member
I just watched part of the Adamantoise fight on YouTube. That design is pretty awesome. That fight looks terrible. Watched a minute and most of the time the camera was in a position to where I couldn't even see the damn turtle.
I got feels when Luna said her goodbye to Noctis in that CG scene, which most people hated. And the one most people liked at the camp I hated it and thought it was unearned. I can't justify it. I just listen to the heart.the thing is, it seems to've worked on a number of people irregardless...
I hated the Game, but i loved the ending, it was the best part of the game, and that song is just awesome!
So many things with the group felt forced, ignis getting blind for whatever reason and then staying in the group and fighting, what? Prompto need to get acknowledgedall the time, but it just didn't feel real.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
It's a gorgeously framed scene, I can't really hate it. I hate that I felt like there wasn't enough reason for me to care about it. With a proper investment into Luna, that scene might have been something pretty special for me :/
I just went through a sealed dungeon with the biggest concentration of bombs I've ever seen. Fuck bombs in tight rooms seriously.
Sealed dungeon itself was okay. It's pure dungeon crawling, which I'm fine with.
Sealed dungeon itself was okay. It's pure dungeon crawling, which I'm fine with.
It's really not fun.
I really like that scene, but i just couldn't feel anything, cause we saw almost to nothing about her. Same with the last scene, i could feel Noctis paine, but as soon as Gladio started crying i got angry at him for screaming at me all the time and that ruined the whole scene for me XD.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Yeah. I think I'm definitely a sucker for the whole cinematic feel of that scene. The way it was framed, her dialogue to Noctis. But the music really brought it home. Then when she grows up and Noctis stays a child....God, I loved it.
I kept wanting to watch Ignis during combat after he went blind to see what the heck he actually does. Never remembered to do so. You'd think he should be bumbling about, but I imagine he was still rocking it old school like before he lost his eye sight.
How long does it take to complete these main scenarios (including expansions) in XIV? And is it achievable in (mostly) solo play? I kind of want something to wash out the bad taste after XV.
A Realm Reborn is about 30-40 hours. Heavensward is about 40 hours.