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Fire Emblem Community Thread | Together We Ride

Wasn't Gregor changed a lot too?
is it? hmm i really need to play kakusei myself to check those stuff
I know people were a lot more angry about the changes to Henry's character at least. IIRC people on Serenes Forest were kinda meh about mute Robin's removal.
oh gotcha
Shun/Neko

Do you play any moba games, what kinda game would you make with Cipher's assets if you have done so?
moba games as in moba like dota 2 or mobile games? if the latter probably a game like fate/grand order
 

Weebos

Banned
Can someone explain the changes being referred to? The mute robin and Henry change? Just playing through awakening now and it is my first fe game.

Mute was a voice option you could pick when creating Robin in the Japanese version.
If I recall correctly it led to the character having no lines other than things like "..." and "!", and all the information Robin would say is said by the other characters in the story.

They opted not to include it in the English version because it effectively doubled the script.
 
Really? I had been under the impression that there were a chunk of dialogue changes where him being mute would be referenced.

Well this was 4 years ago. Truth be told I could be remembering it completely wrong and there are some dialogue changes.
I just know the Mute Robin-Emmeryn support conversation was hilarious to read.
 
Wasn't Gregor changed a lot too?

He was. A lot of people felt that he was actually kinda generic in the Japanese support conversations. Hence when the changes to his character in the localization were shown, people were all over it...once they made sure he didn't become a generic dumb muscle.
 

Shun

Member
Shun/Neko

Do you play any moba games, what kinda game would you make with Cipher's assets if you have done so?

40%-50%+ of my gaming is through mobage and handhelds now.

Really what they would have to do is find a way to cut themselves out of the competition.

They can't do a direct port of Cipher to iOS because of card sales but they might when it starts to die down.

They can't just do a straight up card battle system like iM@S or SQEX mobage does since the characters in FE don't hold as much IP power.

How I would do it is find a compromise between how they did it for Fate Grand/Order, Chain Chronicle, Final Fantasy Grandmasters and GranBlue Fantasy in terms of gameplay.

There are so many characters in FE that you can keep doing frequent events to pull in more users and keep existing users. It's why iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Starlight Stage has been doing so well. They reused assets from previous games and do an almost weekly-biweekly event for new cards.

It doesn't get tired or boring because there is always an event going on.

In the case of chain chronicle and granblue, they have collaborations rather than straight up event asset reuse.

In Fate Grand Order they have events like Saber Wars where it's ONLY Saber cards because Saber is popular and the fate series is a ton of story bs. They could do Marth Wars or Lords only and Pegasus only events. There is a lot of potential for FE mobage.
 

Draxal

Member
Really appreciate the input. Really think mobage (sorry Neko) is the next step for Fire Emblem as an ip, where traditional fire emblem stays on the NX
 
Well this was 4 years ago. Truth be told I could be remembering it completely wrong and there are some dialogue changes.
I just know the Mute Robin-Emmeryn support conversation was hilarious to read.
Too bad there aren't supports with spotpass characters.

mute Robin: "..."
Jaffar: "..."

:p
 
I just realized Takumi's squad is the only group to make it through with their names unchanged

To be fair to Jaffar, thats an accurate portrayal of his character.

thatsthejoke.jpg

So just to go off track for a little bit I'm kinda disappointed that they went with Birthright as the case for the SE. Why not go with a little bit or both or use Nohr since it's visually more appealing?

wait what?
 
I'm pretty much done with gaming side FE discussions. Wish we could split the OT into two between gameplay and everything else when the game comes out (kinda like how SFV is splitting beta disussion and roster discussion ATM), but I guess FE isn't big enough for that.

You guys are the best. :<
 
wait what?

2965037-se.jpg

Right here.
 

Pancake Mix

Copied someone else's pancake recipe
It'll probably be both, and even if it doesn't and instead has a more normal back it will definitely have that reversible cover anyways.

CIr_wwXUMAAJyNz.jpg
 

NeonZ

Member
Most of Henry's support conversations were translated by the time the game came out in NA, so people had enough time to get a feel on Henry's character. Mute Robin IIRC, had no effect on anything. Everything proceeded as normal only Robin was pulling a Mario and saying nothing.

There were dialogue changes for mute Robin. Generally the characters got a few extra words to cover for Robin being silent when necessary.

For example, this is the beginning of the Liz/Male Robin (Boku) C support:

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[&#12522;&#12474;]
&#12354;&#12387;&#12289;&#12356;&#12383;&#12356;&#12383;&#8230;&#12387;&#12390;&#12289;&#23517;&#12390;&#12427;&#65311;&#9660;

[&#12523;&#12501;&#12524;]
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[&#12522;&#12474;]
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[&#12523;&#12501;&#12524;]
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For that part, the mute option pretty much only silences Robin and nothing else changes, but when you advance a bit more...

Robin (boku)
[&#12523;&#12501;&#12524;]
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&#12414;&#12387;&#12383;&#12367;&#12289;&#35242;&#12398;&#38996;&#12364;&#35211;&#12390;&#12415;&#12383;&#12356;&#12424;&#12290;&#9660;

[&#12522;&#12474;]
&#8230;&#35242;&#12399;&#8230;&#12418;&#12358;&#12356;&#12394;&#12356;&#12424;&#12290;&#9660;


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vs

Robin (Silent)

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[&#12522;&#12474;]
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Liz has one of her sentences completely changed to cover for Robin being silent, while still allowing the conversation to make sense.

This is that specific part in the localization:
Avatar: Who does such things? Is that really how your parents raised you?!
Lissa: ...I...I don't know... I never really knew my parents...
Avatar: Oh... Oh, right. That was... Er...
Lissa: Oh, don't worry about it. I know you didn't mean anything by it. And actually, there's something else that I should be apologizing for...

Basically, with the mute voice option, since Robin can't actually ask anything, Lissa gets a line where she goes "You want to see my parent's faces..." in order to lead to her quote mentioning that they're dead (which is also rewritten in order to flow better from that).
 

Shun

Member
2D Fighting Game by Arc System Works or French Bread. They can be trusted with making the art look good and keep the over the top attacks.

I want Fire Emblem Hunting Action Game.

Fire Emblem at the Akaneia Olympic Games.

I want a Fire Emblem renai game in the form of New Love Plus. (*´&#65091;&#65344;*) Oh wait...
 
How's the DLC for Fates? I know Awakenings was pretty bad, but I'm aware one of these DLC has a certain RD chapter I love so I need it.

How about the rest? better or same as FE:A
 

Draxal

Member
How's the DLC for Fates? I know Awakenings was pretty bad, but I'm aware one of these DLC has a certain RD chapter I love so I need it.

How about the rest? better or same as FE:A

Much better overall, none as crummy as the first season of Awakening flc which really sucked.
 

NeonZ

Member
How's the DLC for Fates? I know Awakenings was pretty bad, but I'm aware one of these DLC has a certain RD chapter I love so I need it.

How about the rest? better or same as FE:A

Depends on what you're looking for, I guess. This time they aren't recycling maps for multiple DLCs, and basically all maps have a skill, class or both.

However, there are less conversations than in Awakening's maps - for example, the classic maps only have a brief description from Anna and then you're dropped in battle against generic enemies. So, there aren't conversations or story around them unlike in Awakening. The beach map has the player selecting a team and then there's a conversation with picture at the end, different for each team, but none of those various minor conversations from Awakening's Scramble maps.

The grinding DLC is less useful than in Awakening (at least for low level characters). Also, so far, none of the DLC seems to have been intended for post-game teams. No extra past characters either, the only DLC character so far is Fates' Anna, and she was in the game from the start (IIRC, her shadow is in the support list even if you don't buy her, which is a really scummy move).
 

L95

Member
i wouldn't mind a job based rpg like FF5/FFX-2 with fire emblem classes

and they are idols

so make that #FE2

I was skimming and saw FE2 and for a brief moment, I was very excite.

Depends on what you're looking for, I guess. This time they aren't recycling maps for multiple DLCs, and basically all maps have a skill, class or both.

I know at least the witch DLC uses a map from Gaiden ( *v*)

(Specifically, it's one of the maps where you fight one of Sonia's sisters, I wanna say it's Mara but eh)
 

Draxal

Member
I was skimming and saw FE2 and for a brief moment, I was very excite.



I know at least the witch DLC uses a map from Gaiden ( *v*)

(Specifically, it's one of the maps where you fight one of Sonia's sisters, I wanna say it's Mara but eh)

I gave you a Gaiden shout out in the other thread!
 

L95

Member
Oh, the english official site updated, and there are quite a few names hiding in it.

Matoi -- Caeldori
Eponine -- Nina

Lazward -- Laslow
Benoit -- Benny

Fuga is still fuga (though IIRC most people spelled it Fuuga)
 

Draxal

Member
Oh, the english official site updated, and there are quite a few names hiding in it.

Matoi -- Caeldori
Eponine -- Nina

Lazward -- Laslow
Benoit -- Benny

Fuga is still fuga (though IIRC most people spelled it Fuuga)

Love all of them especially Benny. Well don't love Caeldori but that's an impossible name to work around.
 
it's kinda half they aren't terrible name changes but also why change some of them in the first place

actually I'm kinda disappointed they didn't give a blue-ish name to Lazward
 

Golnei

Member
Avatar yes.

Marriage, probably but imho they'll bring it back in a more limited scope.

Children no.

Who knows really.

What makes you think the marriage and children features are likely to be scaled back - I can understand why some of the additions that were excised in the US version of Fates drew criticism even in Japan, but I haven't seen anyone outside of a minority of bitter series fans complain about the focus on marriage and the child mechanic. I'd like it if they could finally drop them, but I've seen nothing to suggest that'd be a good decision on their part.

actually I'm kinda disappointed they didn't give a blue-ish name to Lazward

Lazuli?
 

L95

Member
Well one of the bandits is named Lloyd supposedly and he's a fan fav Camus.

I didn't see them but I probably missed it, but there is a bandit in screens named Lelywny.... lel.... ll..... that name that was going around from some voice actors role list. People were speculating on SF.
 

Draxal

Member
I didn't see them but I probably missed it, but there is a bandit in screens named Lelywny.... lel.... ll..... that name that was going around from some voice actors role list. People were speculating on SF.

Llewellyn and Lloyd are the ... Bara bandits.
 

L95

Member
Llewellyn and Lloyd are the ... Bara bandits.

I am irked.

O well. I cannot wait to capture all the bosses tho. (I actually hope it becomes a legitimate 'full character' recruitment method next game, like it was in FE5, for, off the top of my head, Salem)
 
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