DecoReturns
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Sacred stones had a Glitch that would break the game involving Wyvern Knights activiting their special skill with a range weapon.
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Sacred stones had a Glitch that would break the game involving Wyvern Knights activiting their special skill with a range weapon.
Hmm, even then, it doesn't occur often (the chances to trigger the glitch are fairly lategame unless you promote early). Pariah, you got pics of the cart?
theprodigy
Member
Got 4 days to go, might as well do this now: personal ranking of the royals in Fates?
right now it's something like:
Leo
Elise/Takumi
Sakura
------------------ (imagine a gap here)
Camilla
Xander
Ryoma
Hinoka
actually a bit of movement from the last time I did this
right now it's something like:
Leo
Elise/Takumi
Sakura
------------------ (imagine a gap here)
Camilla
Xander
Ryoma
Hinoka
actually a bit of movement from the last time I did this
Personal rank or gameplay rank?
Hinoka > Leon > Marx > Elise > Camilla > Ryouma >>> Sakura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Takumi
The biggest draw to Takumi's popularity largely stems from doujin and fan art where he is the beta to Leon or whoever character pairing. Other than that his personality is a piece of shit.
His kid Kisaragi has that annoying you want to punch face too. But Kisaragi personality isn't nearly as shit at Takumi.
Hinoka > Leon > Marx > Elise > Camilla > Ryouma >>> Sakura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Takumi
The biggest draw to Takumi's popularity largely stems from doujin and fan art where he is the beta to Leon or whoever character pairing. Other than that his personality is a piece of shit.
His kid Kisaragi has that annoying you want to punch face too. But Kisaragi personality isn't nearly as shit at Takumi.
theprodigy
Member
personal, gameplay's kind of defined already and it would be pointless (and also kind of wacky with Hinoka and Elise differing wildly depending on the route)
me? only compared to Ryoma, which I still have now
Gameplay? Story? Or both.
Hinoka > Leon > Marx > Elise > Camilla > Ryouma >>> Sakura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Takumi
The biggest draw to Takumi's popularity largely stems from doujin and fan art where he is the beta to Leon or whoever character pairing. Other than that his personality is a piece of shit.
His kid Kisaragi has that annoying you want to punch face too. But Kisaragi personality isn't nearly as shit at Takumi.
Gameplay I would rank it after my holy trinity.
5>12>4>14C
The biggest draw to Takumi's popularity largely stems from doujin and fan art where he is the beta to Leon or whoever character pairing. Other than that his personality is a piece of shit.
His kid Kisaragi has that annoying you want to punch face too. But Kisaragi personality isn't nearly as shit at Takumi.
Gameplay I would rank it after my holy trinity.
5>12>4>14C
I haven't played 1-5 or 12, but Conquest is way up there gameplay-wise compared to the rest. It's a great rebalance of Awakening's mechanics coupled with strong map design.
Story-wise though, lol
Did you watch the time shift of the Cipher Nico Nico stream.
They made Ike's and Midoriko's VA ham it up, and they played remixes of 4's prologue and Chapter 2 theme.
Chapter 2 theme is still my favorite fire emblem song.
I haven't played yet > I haven't played yet > my least favorite FE game aside from Shadow Dragon...
That doesn't help me get an idea of Conquest's quality at all! D:
I really do need to get around to 5 and 12, I have a feeling I'd like them a lot.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
For Royals, based purely on how cool I think they look so far
Xander
Takumi
Sakura
Hinoka
Ryouma
Elise
Leo
Camilla
Xander
Takumi
Sakura
Hinoka
Ryouma
Elise
Leo
Camilla
Just gameplay.
Although... just how bad are we talking about with the story? I know people say it's laughable... but worse than Awakening?
The thing about Fates Conquest is that it's kind of predicated on a flawed premise - that Corrin goes and sides with the total jerkbag invading Nohrians. They say it's to stop the war from the inside, but circumstances stop them from actually getting much done, so they just kind of flit around angsting while the campaign repeats the same few beats over and over. And then about halfway through it drops one of the dumbest twist + plot devices I've ever seen to justify the back half of the campaign.
It very much feels like it was written as "okay and then in chapter X we need thing Y to happen" and worked backwards from there.
Did you watch the time shift of the Cipher Nico Nico stream.
They made Ike's and Midoriko's VA ham it up, and they played remixes of 4's prologue and Chapter 2 theme.
Chapter 2 theme is still my favorite fire emblem song.
I saw 10 minutes then fall asleep.
It's subjective but the game is relatively good. There is variety and Lunatic Conquest is actually really fun, hard but fun. Breaking the game is easy tho but not as easy as Awakening. 4 is a lot of nostalgia and I enjoyed it, but you could replace 4 with one of the Tellius games.
The story is better than Awakening because it is so bad it is hilarious being laughable makes it better than Awakening. I enjoyed it more than Awakening story. A lot of Conquest was like a Tatsunoko anime from the 70s and 80s in terms of how it is done. I would compare it to Pokemon anime and Rocket-dan antics, but this game tries to take itself seriously whereas rocket dan is a joke.
If you go in not expecting much you will enjoy it more.
dakkumauji
Member
Royals:
Ryoma
Xander
Leon
Sakura
Camilla
Elise
Takumi
Hinoka
Ryoma
Xander
Leon
Sakura
Camilla
Elise
Takumi
Hinoka
I don't think there's anything wrong with liking 4, hell, I really should wait before judging it since I haven't finished it. Still, I've been struggling to stay interested in it for years, the gameplay just isn't that strong imo. I can understand why many like it though.
I'm expecting good things with Conquest, I've heard a lot of people call it good and I like what I've seen about the gameplay changes so far.
So I'm not actually worried about the quality of Conquest, I guess I just find it funny that I have a very different opinion on one popular game and haven't been able to play two other popular games yet. I really do need to get around to playing several of the unlocalized games.
I'll rank the characters I thought were most disappointing (first gen) on each route on Hard and above. This means more or less that they didn't seem nearly worth the effort:
Nohr:
Arthur (infinitely terrible luck and speed issues)
Nyx (can't hit shit with that skill and can't get up close due to poor defenses)
Benny (joins late with 6 spd, good luck getting pavise before he's paste)
Charlotte (joins the same time as Benny but 5 levels lower, you do the math)
Hoshido:
Rinkah (mediocre bases, mediocre strength growth, one of the lowest hp growths in the game, nonexistent res and a skill that requires to not be at full health)
Orochi (terribad spd which is death for a mage)
Hayato (comes in at level 1, get out of here kid)
Subaki (The most bizarre growths on a pegasus rider I've ever seen, don't count on getting speed any time soon)
Nohr:
Arthur (infinitely terrible luck and speed issues)
Nyx (can't hit shit with that skill and can't get up close due to poor defenses)
Benny (joins late with 6 spd, good luck getting pavise before he's paste)
Charlotte (joins the same time as Benny but 5 levels lower, you do the math)
Hoshido:
Rinkah (mediocre bases, mediocre strength growth, one of the lowest hp growths in the game, nonexistent res and a skill that requires to not be at full health)
Orochi (terribad spd which is death for a mage)
Hayato (comes in at level 1, get out of here kid)
Subaki (The most bizarre growths on a pegasus rider I've ever seen, don't count on getting speed any time soon)
My god i had to google Hayato to figure out who you're talking about lol
Big change from tsukuyomi lol
theprodigy
Member
Subaki is fine, it's a good thing everyone gives speed in Birthright and enemies kind of lack it (and he's also surprisingly bulky).
I find him as a unit i have to baby around way too much which for an early game flyer unit is not good.
Can't double. Doesnt get enough strength to compensate it. Super low MAG so he cant even be a decent flying healer. The only reason why i used him is to get his superior daughter
Setsuna is okay but Tsubaki is not. Charlotte is superior to Harold. She is pretty decent unit in my opinion. Tho I like Beruka as a Berserker.
Xenoflare
Member
To be fair, Takumi's reaction towards Corrin at first is completely warranted and even more so if you chose Conquest
Edit: I love how every single Nohrian sibling look out for you,
Elise rushes to Corrin right after his been dispatched alone
Xander arranging his retainers to help out
Chapter 10 is a bit Meta when you think about Camilla's value and her care towards Corrin
Leo saves your ass every time Corn is about to screw up in front of Garon
and for Hoshido it's mostly joys of reunion (sans Takumi)
That's the real truth right there. I reclassed her just to pick up some skills but I don't think I'm ever going back from a 65% crit rate with a Killer Axe.
It doesn't take away from the fact that he is still a prick and all the supports he has are kind of awkward.
theprodigy
Member
Maybe it depends on fast you go (as in he's better when you go faster), but Subaki is fine for long enough (as in prior to the endgame stretch), give him a +speed pairup, and you can apparently even run Bolt Naginata for offense.
You can even have him use the Rescue staff if you really want to!
You can even have him use the Rescue staff if you really want to!
Honestly, Beruka is probably one of the best non-royals in terms of pure combat if you can get her there. That crit damage, that skill and Sol acting in tandem, she can be unkillable in the right situation. Good availability too, on both routes she's on. But she can eat random crits as a zerker, which is something to consider.
Charlotte fits the berserker archetype perfectly.
Super high HP with high str and speed.
Lower-middle skill...
and SUPER LOW DEF and RES
you can level her 20/20 and she still has 2 resistance lol... All these endgame mages doing 30-35 dmg on her
theprodigy
Member
she actually does average just 2.45 resistance at 20/20 as a Berserker
then again she's better as Xander's personal pairup bot so whatever
and if you give her a brave axe, it lowers DEF and RES by 4. Thankfully, there are no negative numbers lol...
where are you getting these stat averages btw?
And are these averages based on staying in the same class? I think growths change based on the class.
To compare, Beruka starts with 7 with a 25% growth and Arthur has 4 with a 20% growth
Charlotte's is 5%
theprodigy
Member
character averages
too bad link bonus classes aren't included
ok, what
we're clearly coming at this from different perspectives, Hinoka is easily top 5 in Birthright staying in Sky Knight
theprodigy
Member
Just because there aren't side objectives doesn't make move pointless, it mattered just as much in Awakening after all and it still matters here.
Then pair her up with someone who has move? *shrugs* It really doesn't matter much and you can always reclass her back that one time you might need a flyer maybe, if you squint really hard
DecoReturns
Member
Sorry to disrupt, but I just missed a attack with 95% (FE7), I didn't think it was possible even if wasn't 100%
Few turn later
Then I missed at 98%...
Not gonna lie, Anything higher then 95 I considered a guarantee hit because they never miss. Of course this only applies to the Western games.
The Snes games...yeah they felt like Pokemon attacks, Tackle often missed more then it should've you know
Few turn later
Then I missed at 98%...
Not gonna lie, Anything higher then 95 I considered a guarantee hit because they never miss. Of course this only applies to the Western games.
The Snes games...yeah they felt like Pokemon attacks, Tackle often missed more then it should've you know
theprodigy
Member
Flying has way more applications then you're giving it credit for, if you want to slowplay everything fine but Hinoka's combat is perfectly fine without reclassing.
I've seen more 99% staff misses in Thracia than I'd care to count
dakkumauji
Member
FE5's the best
I want that one comic now of Nanna missing a heal.
Being better as a Lancer does not mean she is shit otherwise, I agree
DecoReturns
Member
I'm talking about how it had 95% in the games I've played, but I remember how that move would miss constantly
dakkumauji
Member
5% is still 5%