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Fire Emblem Community Thread | Together We Ride
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I guess, but Lilith has always really stood out to me in that department, but I really don't see the point of making
her another child of Anankos, and MC's sister. They don't use it at all in the plot, and she may have well been a random fishdragon
DecoReturns
Member
I'm this close to buy Radiant Dawn just to get a case for it. It just feels sad without one
Mine was lost when I was moving from house to house back then.
Mine was lost when I was moving from house to house back then.
theprodigy
Member
Is that the only internationally released game you don't have the case for? lol
Magic seems pretty strong in this game so far. They can't take a hit for anything, but they can dish out some great damage. I've been using them as DPS cannons. Until lately, I've only taken 1 out at a time on maps. It's been rough to keep them out of enemy attacks, but not too bad so far.
DecoReturns
Member
No I have plenty without cases, house fire as a kid lost most of my stuff
But just for Fire Emblem, i'm missing it .
I like having cases for the games I like.
theprodigy
Member
magic is pretty good
magic users are not, aside from Corrin the only good ones are Leo and Revelation!Hayato
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
That's hilarious given how bad Hayato is in Birthright. I thought Ophelia was supposed to be decent though? Or is that just Shun bias lol
Revelation has different stats for the same units? Oh joy.
Once I get full supports on both my mages, I'll likely just dump the one with worse stats and run the other. I'm not taking a magic Corrin and I don't want to completely forgo magic.
theprodigy
Member
I'm not including the kids here.
as far as kids go for a no-grind run Percy is probably the best anyway
Hayato's got his bases fixed in Rev. Ophelia's good if you have the right parents, she's really strong if you grind her as she has great skill access. Elise is turnign pretty good for me, but she's doing it in a grinding support role for me.
dakkumauji
Member
who needs actual magic when every other weapon type gets a magical weapon version of it
Someone mentioned a NX FE in the Fire Emblem sales thread and that got me thinking. The handheld NX should probably be powerful enough to run Wii and GC games at the very least. That means we could see Wii/GC VC on the handheld NX.
That means there's a chance I can actually play the Radiance duology on the kind of device I prefer. Do it Nintendo! I'd pay a dumb amount of money for a Radiance Collection on the Handheld NX.
That means there's a chance I can actually play the Radiance duology on the kind of device I prefer. Do it Nintendo! I'd pay a dumb amount of money for a Radiance Collection on the Handheld NX.
theprodigy
Member
Wow I didn't realize Revelation chapter 10 had so many items!
I'd pay double for a Fire Emblem: Legacy Collection that brings over the first 6 games (and BS Fire Emblem since the only way to really play that is New Mystery which was never localized) to the west, be it the NX, 3DS or whichever system they choose to release it on. Given the rumors around Mother 3 being translated and Fire Emblem's recent renaissance, it's not out of the question.
NeonZ
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Remember, what you're saying comes from DLC that came after the game. I think the issue with her is likely the other way around.
They build her for the My Castle and then inserted her in the plot a couple of times just to give some sense that there's some connection between the My Castle stuff and the main story, even though after its formal introduction the My Castle isn't ever mentioned again in the story cutscenes.
The revelations in the DLC were likely just further attempts to make her relevant.
I would love to see some of the older FEs localized, but doing that as a collection would be a massive project. Despite being sprite games, they still have quote large scripts. If Mother 3 truly does happen, I could possibly see them doing a FE6 or Mystery of the Emblem localization, but going all the way back to the NES/SNES games seems unlikely. Possible, but unlikely.
At this point, playing PoR/RD on a handheld is the only real dream I have since I missed both those games and I don't love playing turn based strategy titles on console.
Fair point. I'd say that, given the popularity of the children/marriage mechanic, Seisen No Keifu would be the safest bet were they to do them one by one but it's possible they could bring over Fuuin No Tsurugi due to his debut in Melee and popularity in the most recent Smash Bros.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
I think pre-GBA FE would be too weird to appeal to the average Awakening fan, even with Genealogy's children mechanic.
Ayup. Genealogy's gigantic ass maps, and Thracia being pretty unforgiving for a new person.
theprodigy
Member
Well better FE4-5 then FE1/3, which already have remakes.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
It would be nice if we actually got the FE3 remake though.
Actually, when I'm done with Fates should I tackle FE12 or FE3 for the first time hmmmm
Or just replay 5/7 because I love them both so much.
Actually, when I'm done with Fates should I tackle FE12 or FE3 for the first time hmmmm
Or just replay 5/7 because I love them both so much.
SFC era was the renaissance era. If you are going to modernize and remake the game the least you can do is make it like FE12 and MyUnit not as intrusive to the game.
Actually make the second generation, a time skip generation. If not just make a sequel with the child units but with the parents playable or something. Like I wish Rutee was playable in Tales of Destiny 2.
Bring back old mechanics, I don't care if you cut certain things so long as the game is balanced to those changes.
Please whatever you do do not mismanage your properties and franchises again. That is all I ask of you. Cannot deal with those 6 years of darkness and neglect again.
Actually make the second generation, a time skip generation. If not just make a sequel with the child units but with the parents playable or something. Like I wish Rutee was playable in Tales of Destiny 2.
Bring back old mechanics, I don't care if you cut certain things so long as the game is balanced to those changes.
Please whatever you do do not mismanage your properties and franchises again. That is all I ask of you. Cannot deal with those 6 years of darkness and neglect again.
Chapter 12 Birthright is something else. If I was on Normal, maybe fighting enemies would seem like more of an option. Think I'll attach Corrin to a Pegasus, use my other units to choke off and grab the the items and rush the exit.
Hate to give up that EXP, but it's Birthright and I think my squad is not prepared for this. The choke points would be useful, but too many ranged enemies that hit super damn hard.
Hate to give up that EXP, but it's Birthright and I think my squad is not prepared for this. The choke points would be useful, but too many ranged enemies that hit super damn hard.
theprodigy
Member
heh, my answer to that and chapter 10 was to shuriken spam my way through it all
killed all but 3 enemies including the boss
I really should level my ninjas. Kaze has been gets shit Str RNG levels and Saizo is a bit behind. They obviously would be really great with levels, I just don't have those.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Kaze's speed is so overkill he should always be using (forged) steel shuriken and benefits immensely from a +str pair up.
dakkumauji
Member
i thought people hated kris cause he/she was extremely intrusive to the game
I meant in comparison to the MyUnit characters in Awakening and Fates.
A MyUnit character is going to be intrusive regardless. The least you can do in a remake is not make them the star or not include them entirely.
Unlike the other two games, Chris isn't necessary to certain battles like Marth is.
You are going to have to get a MyUnit character regardless with the direction of the franchise, the least you can do is make it less intrusive and focus more on the stars of the game.
DecoReturns
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This Translation thing is just hilarious, its just people jumping on the bandwagon because something is popular or because of one image.
I wonder why they didn't complain about Awakening, that game is rather different then the Japanese version (Dialogue wise)?
I'm gonna stay away from Fire Emblem threads, they are a mess
Also hooray for success! FE is here to stay
I wonder why they didn't complain about Awakening, that game is rather different then the Japanese version (Dialogue wise)?
I'm gonna stay away from Fire Emblem threads, they are a mess
Also hooray for success! FE is here to stay
It's a perfect storm of a ton of factors. First you have a sharp divide between new and old fans, with some old fans feeling slighted because of that. Next, Fates has been primed for this kind of stuff with all the 'censorship' discussions. Many people who don't give a single shit about FE have jumped in to stir that pot. Finally, because Fates took so long, you have this other group creating an alternate translation. The fact that that group has created a, let's say less than civil, environment hasn't helped matters.
dakkumauji
Member
but the main argument against kris is that he/she literally becomes the star of the game
kuroneko0509
Member
I'm surprised that I bothered to post in that thread hah. I really should go back to my work instead.
Anyway, literal vs liberal translation style debates will never end...
We are looking and arguing at it from a different perspective. You are the "star" up until the later points in the game but it doesn't break from the fact that the plot is revolving around Marth is always the focus.
Marth is still the main focus of that game regardless of what Chris does because of how they wrote Chris into the game. When you compare supports and interactions of Chris compared to Reflet and Kamui, where those two completely shape the game and become complete cornerstones by the epilogue and latter stages of the game.
I am speaking for if Seisen or Thracia do get a remake with modern features, that it doesn't break the flow that was already set in those series. Like how would you write in a MyUnit for the first and second generations without messing up what is already there.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I feel like all this snoozeworthy bickering about localization and translations and the 12 different controversies for Fates is the most anyone has ever talked about Fire Emblem in the West and it makes me sad
Funny enough I was looking at some old videos while looking for some Seisen music.
Saw somebody complaining (not Chrom) about the change from Iris to Ylisse because the double reference to mark of Naga in Lucina's iris was missing ... and he's right.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
...is that why the artbook is called Knights of Iris?
Bingo.
Bonen no Max'd
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I kind of fell out of fandom after Shadow Dragon because all I cared about in high scool was anime so I didn't really follow Awakening's release before coming over here and only finally played it last year after buying a 3DS.
I wonder what other crazy changes exist that I am totally oblivious to.
I wonder what other crazy changes exist that I am totally oblivious to.
I didn't know it either ... until I saw that I was like .... oh that makes sense ... now .... and felt ashamed afterwards.
Ayup, story's silly fun, but I think the game's really enjoyable even though I find new ways to kill myself in the stupid ways possible.
I'll be honest, I'm not great at these games despite enjoying the challenge. As someone who is awful with choices, Attack/Defense stance throws me for a loop because I feel like I need to be using defense stance to get through tough spots, but then end up not having enough units around to go deal with problems that arise. It's that risk reward that throws me off.
It IS pretty depressing.
I try not to let it get to me, but there's always something.
theprodigy
Member
Pair Up is generally better past the earlygame because if you can kill everything on enemy phase who needs player phase.
works better in some chapters than others of course
On the subject of liberal changes to the game, apparently someone is working on expanding the same-sex options in Fates via an unofficial patch. Seems interesting: https://gbatemp.net/threads/fire-emblem-fates-expanded-same-sex-marriage-patch-wip.416109/
Triforce141
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So it's possible for things like Scarlet Ryoma, Jakob Flora and Ophelia Soleil to happen now?
At least Treehouse's changes to Forrest and Soleil's supports actually made her not that stupid.
I heard about that, I'm not sure what to think. It comes across as sort of arrogant and entitled - I can understand where the Team IF retranslation and Torrential Downpour things were coming from in terms of pursuing a more 'faithful' translation, but this seems to take things a step further to actively distort the characters, with no respect for the original game.