-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Fire Emblem Community Thread | Together We Ride
- Thread starter Chrom
- Start date
How is it weird? There are no GameCube games on Wii U Virtual Console. It's not a supported platform. You could make the case for Radiant Dawn, but I guess it being a sequel to Path of Radiance makes it a hard sell. I'm sure both games will pop up on NX.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Really shows how tragic the characters are in this game, doesn't it?
I'm multi-tasking between that and Sacred Stones. I need video footage for that game.
The Tellius games were really well made. Even the class balance feels really good in this game. The 3D models look fine, but the animation is a little stiff. It's more so in POR. In RD, they almost seems over animated. Only thing stiff are the capes on the mages. You know what's the biggest downgrade visually besides what you said?
Look at that water. It's simple by modern standards, but it's still such a pretty looking effect. The 3DS is capable of it, but why didn't they do it? It's such a shame.
The Awesomest
Member
I enjoyed Valkyria Chronicles quite a bit as a fan of Fire Emblem-style SRPGs. I feel like VC also had some influence on Awakening.
theprodigy
Member
Sigrun.
when's Tanith
Last year she was in the PoR set.
Right, sometimes I forget about Nintendo's lack of competence in regards to their GC catalogue
Not releasing RD on the grounds of it being a sequel is still a weak excuse though, as I'm willing to bet a lot of people would still like to buy it regardless of PoR being unavailable. It certainly beats paying for an overpriced used copy and at the very least Nintendo wouldn't be losing any money.
Right, sometimes I forget about Nintendo's lack of competence in regards to their GC catalogue
Not releasing RD on the grounds of it being a sequel is still a weak excuse though, as I'm willing to bet a lot of people would still like to buy it regardless of PoR being unavailable. It certainly beats paying for an overpriced used copy and at the very least Nintendo wouldn't be losing any money.
There's a lot of content that transfers over from PoR to RD. It's likely they are waiting for a chance to get both on the same system.
theprodigy
Member
"a lot"? not really, transfers and the Ike/Soren endgame convo are basically it
although yeah chances are they'd show up together rather than separately
That convo was so good tho.
I was mostly referring to the Jill support stuff, the character strength etc. It's not necessary for playing the game, but it would be a shame if it wasn't an option.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
The real reason it's not available is because IS doesn't want people to play the only games that are a gameplay downgrade from Awakening mirite?
This opinion might change for RD if HM is an incredible revelation but PoR is definitely the worst game (post FE3) for actually playing the game. The story *is* good though.
This opinion might change for RD if HM is an incredible revelation but PoR is definitely the worst game (post FE3) for actually playing the game. The story *is* good though.
theprodigy
Member
edit: wait I'm dumb this is about VC not a remaster
EDIT: May have misunderstood what you said.
Look at that water. It's simple by modern standards, but it's still such a pretty looking effect. The 3DS is capable of it, but why didn't they do it? It's such a shame.
That looks more like liquid mercury than water. The Tellius games are many things but pretty is not one of them. Mind, I find Radiant Dawn to be terrible from both a story and gameplay perspective (the butchering of the support system, Heather, the often lackluster map design that wastes some interesting design choices like higher/lower terrain advantages/disadvantages, Heather, the awful use of fog of war, a literal deus ex machina [medallion?] etc.) but I seem to be in the minority on disliking that game while liking Shadow Dragon.
Oh very much so.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Watching dondon's 0% growths playthrough of Shadow Dragon was pretty eye-opening to see how good the design of it is. It's not my favorite but I can respect it a lot.
Radiant Dawn otoh has some pretty cool stuff like ledges but also has so many boring routfests I thought I was playing Awakening *rimshot*.
Radiant Dawn otoh has some pretty cool stuff like ledges but also has so many boring routfests I thought I was playing Awakening *rimshot*.
The hell.
Lucina???
theprodigy
Member
Sölf;206042629 said:
Liking Shadow Dragon is whatever, the funny part is of the two biggest Shadow Dragon defenders I can think of, one of them likes Micaiah as a character and the other thinks FE7 brings absolutely nothing to the table gameplay wise.
I love all the pics that are being posted in twitter, my fav one is of Lucina??? stabbing Marth in the back with her spear and sword.
When I get my Sheeda Marth is gonna ride the pegasus. (tho maybe he won't fit....)
kuroneko0509
Member
DecoReturns
Member
dakkumauji
Member
but i don't really like shadow dragon though
Shadow Dragon was actually my first Fire Emblem game and I liked it quite a lot back then but never got to finish it, similarly to 7 which was my second. Maybe now that I have more experience under my belt I'll think less of it and realise why people look down on it whenever I inevitably revisit Shadow Dragon in order to beat it. Until then, I think it's a fine game.
Since no one answered last time I might as well ask it again while we're on the subject: is Mystery of the Emblem still worth playing or are the DS remakes superior on all fronts,thus effectively replacing it as the definitive way to experience Marth's saga?
Since no one answered last time I might as well ask it again while we're on the subject: is Mystery of the Emblem still worth playing or are the DS remakes superior on all fronts,thus effectively replacing it as the definitive way to experience Marth's saga?
DecoReturns
Member
The DS remake is what you want. Its a pretty damn good game in my opinion
theprodigy
Member
New Mystery is better in basically everything...except Kris.
dakkumauji
Member
Cow Mengde
Banned
Wat did FE7 bring to the table gameplay wise? I'm not even joking, I'm drawing a huge blank.
Kris, Robin, and Corrin are hands down THE WORST characters in Fire Emblem.
Robin and Corrin (although Corrin is pretty bad) aren't the worst characters in their own games.
FE7 did bring a dedicated prologue (6 had one but 7's was much more substantial). But the two gba games were pretty much enhancements over FE6, and they really didn't try to shake things up too much.
One thing I did like about Por -> RD is how they really tried to shake things up.
Nowi and Soleil easily win those spots for me
FE7 did bring a dedicated prologue (6 had one but 7's was much more substantial). But the two gba games were pretty much enhancements over FE6, and they really didn't try to shake things up too much.
One thing I did like about Por -> RD is how they really tried to shake things up.
I thought the GBA games were criticized in Japan for not bringing anything new to the table and actually simplifying the gameplay too much. It was still liked but that was the main criticism from the lifelong fans
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
7 added weather (RIP), reintroduced diverse victory conditions (and also introduced a couple, Rout and Survive) and introduced dancer rings.
That said, I don't think FE6 introduced anything either and I appreciate both games for just being really strong takes on Thracia style gameplay. I think 5-7 is the best FE ever got, and probably ever will get (unless 12 is as good as I hear and I'm good enough to appreciate it).
That said, I don't think FE6 introduced anything either and I appreciate both games for just being really strong takes on Thracia style gameplay. I think 5-7 is the best FE ever got, and probably ever will get (unless 12 is as good as I hear and I'm good enough to appreciate it).
Fe6 introduced the modern support system.
It's kinda weird to me that you're not including 8 in that.
Also, kinda forgot FE7 introduced the avatar to the series.
theprodigy
Member
lol it wasn't about simplicity or adding new features
in that post dondon skipped over FE7, 8, and 9
in that post dondon skipped over FE7, 8, and 9
Sölf;206042629 said:
I can understand people being disappointed in the game due to it being very simplistic (and, frankly, very ugly looking) in terms of mechanics and map design as well as lacking features in later games like visible supports, however the localization team did a fantastic job with what they had to work with (the scene where Marth realizes there are innocents on both sides is one of the most striking moments in series history) and while it is simplistic compared to Radiant Dawn when it comes to mission variety, it works a whole lot better than that cold mess on the whole.
Also: The soundtrack is superb.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Wait what post is this?
I just don't like FE8 as muchFe6 introduced the modern support system.
It's kinda weird to me that you're not including 8 in that.
Also, kinda forgot FE7 introduced the avatar to the series.
But it is in the Thracia mold too, mostly.
More Fates DLC/release dates for DLC is all I imagine we'll see, if at all. I think it's too early to expect any details for the Fire Emblem mobile title and while I do think it may be possible, i'm doubtful we'll see a "Fire Emblem Awakening GOTY Edition" with all the DLC included in it.
DecoReturns
Member
Pretty obvious we'll see a Fire Emblem PoR/Radiant Dawn Remake. Heard it on the internet
theprodigy
Member
lol what
His uncle works at Nintendo.