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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT| Mount Breeding Simulator

PK Gaming

Member
If anything, the datamine should've alerted people that something was up. Aside from Camus, Xander and the CYL units, we've never gotten great units for free. The mysteriously absent Arden also should've set off at least a few warning signals.

Well no, that's not accurate. Leaving aside the fact that Camus isn't that great of a unit, we've gotten the Black Knight (who easily ranks among one of the best units in the game), Arvis (who while not being particularly amazing still has a bunch of valuable skills), and the aforementioned CYL/Xander. Our expectations were high because of the standard IS set. This is a pretty blatant betrayal of trust, and the worst part is that Arden is shaping up to be a phenomenal unit on his own, so it's not like we're getting another Tobin.
 

NSESN

Member
wow ngl this is pretty scumbaggy

i feel really bad implying that she was going to be a free unit.



Um nope not at all. Genealogy was incredily popular in Japan at the time PoR wasn't at all.

And the fanbase of the game is now older and whales like me now, and also the popularity of Geneloogy is incredibly skewed to the first gen.
That so called popularity didn't translate into CYL at all. Both versions of Nephenee scored higher than any Genealogy unit. And the should't be based only for what is popular in Japan
 

Samstrike

Member
So why do we keep getting the same weapon type for those Tempest units reward? We are up to four sword units (2 infantry, 2 armor) and 1 one cavalry lance. A bit of variety would be nice...
 
I'm salty too. Not because I wanted her as a free unit but because IS put her in another banner with older units and one of those being red as well. That's cheap money grab.

They could put her in the Holy Wars banner but no, they had to do this shitty way. The worst part is that this could be a new trend of new unit releases if enough people support it by spending orbs in it...
 

Mupod

Member
I guess people forgot about the Ike/Hero Fest 1 bait so they needed something to remind them what kind of game they were playing. But yeah, leaving Ayra out of a 3-unit banner was nasty. Thankfully I managed to get Sigurd and he should be a great autobattler.

Regardless of how OP she is I do not need more swords so I won't be rolling. I still would like to upgrade my Eldigan to a better boon/bane but I barely use horse emblem these days. I suppose I could make a +8 Cecilia and revive them though.

I think they're referring to all the people that failed to pull Tamamo despite saving everything since the beginning and possibly even whaling for her.

At least FEH is fair most of the time unlike Grand Order.

Yep, happened to me, 4 months of saving for nothing. I'm actually in that big collage image of salty posts someone made, lol.

My reroll account already found her twice, which is silly.
 

OVDRobo

Member
Well no, that's not accurate. Leaving aside the fact that Camus isn't that great of a unit, we've gotten the Black Knight (who easily ranks among one of the best units in the game), Arvis (who while not being particularly amazing still has a bunch of valuable skills), and the aforementioned CYL/Xander. Our expectations were high because of the standard IS set. This is a pretty blatant betrayal of trust, and the worst part is that Arden is shaping up to be a phenomenal unit on his own, so it's not like we're getting another Tobin.

I can see my use of the word 'never' followed by specifying exceptions was a bad choice for getting my point across. The key point I was trying to make is that free units are usually not incredibly powerful in games like this and while Fire Emblem Heroes has been generous enough to give us a few exceptions, people shouldn't have just assumed like they did with Ayra, particularly when there were a few signs pointing to it not being the case.

Looking at the unique free units we've gotten so far across all game modes (in no particular order):
Narcian
Navarre
Michalis
Ursula
Female Robin
Clarisse
Zephiel
Xander
Lloyd
Camus
Legion
Berkut
Valter
Arvis
Marth (Masked)
Tobin
Clive
Black Knight

While I'm not disagreeing with people saying what IS has done here is shady, saying they've set a standard of giving us great units is wrong. Out of all of these units only Black Knight and Xander can really be considered truly great. (I thought Camus was really good when he released because the horse meta was thriving and he had distant counter, but outside of that environment I agree he's not as good as a standalone)

Ayra should've just been on the Genealogy banner with the other 3 heroes since splitting the red focus chance between her and Sigurd is way more acceptable than splitting it with Eldigan on a trash banner.
 

Zafir

Member
Nope, only Ayra.

40% units: Sigurd, Deirdre, Tailtiu, Ayra
20% units: Arvis, Arden, Eldigan, Lachesis

Great for those of us who managed to not pull any of the new fe4 units. =/

Guess I'll probably have to put a bit more effort in than auto battling one of the slightly lower difficulty ones.
 

casiopao

Member
I can see my use of the word 'never' followed by specifying exceptions was a bad choice for getting my point across. The key point I was trying to make is that free units are usually not incredibly powerful in games like this and while Fire Emblem Heroes has been generous enough to give us a few exceptions, people shouldn't have just assumed like they did with Ayra, particularly when there were a few signs pointing to it not being the case.

Looking at the unique free units we've gotten so far across all game modes (in no particular order):
Narcian
Navarre
Michalis
Ursula
Female Robin
Clarisse
Zephiel
Xander
Lloyd
Camus
Legion
Berkut
Valter
Arvis
Marth (Masked)
Tobin
Clive
Black Knight

While I'm not disagreeing with people saying what IS has done here is shady, saying they've set a standard of giving us great units is wrong. Out of all of these units only Black Knight and Xander can really be considered truly great. (I thought Camus was really good when he released because the horse meta was thriving and he had distant counter, but outside of that environment I agree he's not as good as a standalone)

Ayra should've just been on the Genealogy banner with the other 3 heroes since splitting the red focus chance between her and Sigurd is way more acceptable than splitting it with Eldigan on a trash banner.

Zephiel is also great when it come out though as also Marth(Masked) which is essentially free Lucina.

Considering this gacha game, i would said it is quite nice already.
 

Draxal

Member
That so called popularity didn't translate into CYL at all. Both versions of Nephenee scored higher than any Genealogy unit. And the should't be based only for what is popular in Japan

CYL votes were a complete joke, because the western fanbase is a joke. Caeda not being in the top ten females should never have happened.

Heroes makes most of its money from Japan. Whales matter more than f2ps, its how the business model works. The average is whale in their mid 30s/40s, hence why Jugdral was always a prime target for them. In addition, the game was flailing in revenue they needed the power creep, its what makes people whale.

Its completely scummy how they did this and I was 100% against ayra getting a PRF sword thats is better than 99% of the legendaries in the game, but they had logic in this.

While I'm not disagreeing with people saying what IS has done here is shady, saying they've set a standard of giving us great units is wrong. Out of all of these units only Black Knight and Xander can really be considered truly great. (I thought Camus was really good when he released because the horse meta was thriving and he had distant counter, but outside of that environment I agree he's not as good as a standalone)

Ayra should've just been on the Genealogy banner with the other 3 heroes since splitting the red focus chance between her and Sigurd is way more acceptable than splitting it with Eldigan on a trash banner.

There was a definite shift in though process with CYL heroes, all the banners after that have some power creep in some form, revenue was definitely flailing before that especially compared to its competitors.

Also, I guess it might have started with Valter, he got a powercrept weapon compared to something like Berkut's lance.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
What a scummy move. I've played many gacha but this is up there with the worst moves by a company.
 

Draxal

Member
What a scummy move. I've played many gacha but this is up there with the worst moves by a company.

Yeah, this is really scummy and I have read about all granblue's previous dramas. The only thing thats is potentially redeeming this is Ayra was datamined to have a four star version.
 

StAidan

Member
lol, I should probably be mad, but I SI'd 3 units into a 4* Seliph yesterday and took him through the Warriors maps to get him ready for the Tempest Trials. Joke's on me I guess.
 

Firemind

Member
lol, I should probably be mad, but I SI'd 3 units into a 4* Seliph yesterday and took him through the Warriors maps to get him ready for the Tempest Trials. Joke's on me I guess.
Isn't it better to use Arvis at that point? Both are going to be 20% I think. Not gonna look forward to the grinding... Hope the seal rewards won't be too nice.
 

NSESN

Member
CYL votes were a complete joke, because the western fanbase is a joke. Caeda not being in the top ten females should never have happened.

Heroes makes most of its money from Japan. Whales matter more than f2ps, its how the business model works. The average is whale in their mid 30s/40s, hence why Jugdral was always a prime target for them. In addition, the game was flailing in revenue they needed the power creep, its what makes people shake.
Cmon, are you really saying that only japanese taste matters?
And Heroes sometimes ranks better in US than Japan. So it isn't like the game is only making money of japanese fans.
The assumption was that he'd be 40%, since he's the lead or something, I think.
The leak is Masked Marth talking with him about Julia going mad, and his parents coming in to help. But Lachesis is more imporant I guess.
 
I've sunk now about 180 orbs into attempting to get POlivia and Lucius broke my rate...Ayra was going to be the anti-salt...

Now I'm debating what to do with my TT orbs. Pull for Ayra, or keep attempting to get Olivia...
 

Draxal

Member
Good thing about Ayra is that she would be really easy to kill

Ayra is a trap unit in that she's still a red melee sword (which sucks). Its just she's so much better than other myrmidons (asides from Ryoma), and you can't pass her skills to them, it is really unfair to them.

Cmon, are you really saying that only japanese taste matters?
And Heroes sometimes ranks better in US than Japan. So it isn't like the game is only making money of japanese fans.

The leak is Masked Marth talking with him about Julia going mad, and his parents coming in to help. But Lachesis is more imporant I guess.

Western fans thinking that the series started with the seventh game in the series is a huge pet peeve of mine.
 

NSESN

Member
Ayra with DC should be as good as fury Ryouma/Ike tho. The problem is that she can't run Steady Breath.
Western fans thinking that the series started with the seventh game in the series is a huge pet peeve of mine.
But it did for the west. You can't blame western fans for that.
 

spiritfox

Member
Arden is a good unit (his stat spread and pursuit ring is nuts), he's just not an attractive unit.

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Bovine

Neo Member
Free pull netted me Selena, pulled the full 5 and I got the whole banner at once O_O

Ayra +Atk -Def
Eldigan +Atk -Def
Lachesis +Atk -Res (who really cares)

Glad I didn't have to put much into this banner for once.
 
NOooooooooo I spent all my orbs and some from quests and chapters and got a -Atk/+hp Ayra. Por que!?

Alright, it will be ok. I have made do with worse attack before (still use -Atk Eirika). I’ll just put my summoner support on her and use the Atk +3 Seal I already crafted. It’ll be fine.....right?
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
I think I'm just about done trying to pull for P.Olivia. I have too many Lachesis, Lissas and Serras. I should just take the L and stop.

On the plus side, the free pull for the Ayra banner got me... 5* M.Corrin? I guess he can be okay as another red sword for AA.
 

Sushen

Member
Alright, it will be ok. I have made do with worse attack before (still use -Atk Eirika). I’ll just put my summoner support on her and use the Atk +3 Seal I already crafted. It’ll be fine.....right?
I still can't decide between neutral and spd+/def- Eirika and both are at level 1, haha.
 
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