Hulk_Smash
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Then roll with it, I guess. I thought this thread was going in a different direction.
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First date out to dinner - offering to pay the whole bill - simp material?
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Then roll with it, I guess. I thought this thread was going in a different direction.
Stiflers Mom
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You don't say?
Alter_Fridge
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I guess the point I was trying to make was read the situation. If there was no chemistry don't demand to pay and just let it go. Don't force it in the hope of getting laid
If it went really well she might let you pay, however, you might need to insist. Make a call from there
Stilton Disco
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Pay the bill. Don't discuss it or make a big deal about it, just do it as if it wasn't something you'd ever considered not doing, and pretend that you hadn't had to make this thread like a big girls blouse.
The one exception to this is if you're on a date with a tomboy, in which case then you should say you're going to get it, let them offer to split it, thank them but insist on paying it regardless, as they tend to be a bit more prideful.
You still pay for everything though, you bloody fool.
The one exception to this is if you're on a date with a tomboy, in which case then you should say you're going to get it, let them offer to split it, thank them but insist on paying it regardless, as they tend to be a bit more prideful.
You still pay for everything though, you bloody fool.
PSlayer
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I guess it depends of wheter or not you score in the end. There is a lot of girls that don't want anything with you but still wants the attention/money/favors that you will give/make if you think you have a chance. I mean, if you gonna pay for the date you should at least get a kiss as a sign that things are going into the direction you want.
haxan7
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A fellow bottle pisser
Stiflers Mom
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I usually really don't want to implant "seeds of thought" that she will stay overnight after having had sex with her.
I really prefer to sleep alone and her getting a taxi home.
LordKasual
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All that "Simp" stuff is just how people who don't get laid justify their decision to be willingly unattractive
If you're the guy, you should automatically assume you're paying. Don't go on a date if you can't foot the bill.
If INSISTS on splitting, she's probably a woman of code
If you're the guy, you should automatically assume you're paying. Don't go on a date if you can't foot the bill.
If INSISTS on splitting, she's probably a woman of code
RedVIper
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I do usually offer to pay on a first date if I'm the one who asked her out because I don't know her financial situation.
But also do this with friends, if I ask a friend out to some restaurant and I know he's struggling I'll pay the bill.
On the other hand I've also had girls pay me dinner, usually foreigners but still.
Moogle11
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I think it depends on the context.
For instance, a first meeting with some random person from an online dating thing that you've barely chatted with, it's best to just do a cheap, casual first date/meet up. i.e. just meet for a drink or coffee. Then it's not a big deal one way or the other since it's cheap, and if you don't click you can bolt after one drink and if you do click you can go from there that night or asking out for something more formal for second date.
If it's someone you know a bit or well, it's more ok to plan a dinner date and offer to pay--just don't be pushy if they offer/insist on splitting. Back when I was in the online dating game there were definitely some women who got off put by that even on a second or third date. I was mostly dating liberal, young professionals in a big city though, so YMMV in other areas with other types of women. That said, the feminist movement has only gotten stronger in the 10 years or so since I got out of that game so I can't imagine it's not more true unless your in a more conservative/traditional area.
For instance, a first meeting with some random person from an online dating thing that you've barely chatted with, it's best to just do a cheap, casual first date/meet up. i.e. just meet for a drink or coffee. Then it's not a big deal one way or the other since it's cheap, and if you don't click you can bolt after one drink and if you do click you can go from there that night or asking out for something more formal for second date.
If it's someone you know a bit or well, it's more ok to plan a dinner date and offer to pay--just don't be pushy if they offer/insist on splitting. Back when I was in the online dating game there were definitely some women who got off put by that even on a second or third date. I was mostly dating liberal, young professionals in a big city though, so YMMV in other areas with other types of women. That said, the feminist movement has only gotten stronger in the 10 years or so since I got out of that game so I can't imagine it's not more true unless your in a more conservative/traditional area.
Nymphae
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I'm just not clear on what the rationale is for this being the man's responsibility anymore. People going "only a bitch wouldn't pay", but again, why? In most instances I can recall, any women I've met for a date were in similar financial positions to my own, if not earning more.
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Alter_Fridge
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MaestroMike
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Always ALWAYS pay when it comes to food if ur tryna get laid. If u let her pay she may like only get a a salad and be stingy u gotta pay do the order for all the food that'll put her in the mood steak lobster oysters chocolate ice cream or just chocolate and also some salad with a lot of lemon and berries to help digestion after words maybe maybe some juice or wine if u and she drinks Hopefully they'll already have carbo loaded otherwise u might be outta luck for that date. But always pay for the chicks u wanna bang and make her get the picture u aren't stingy with food. Be stingy with all else but not food.
RedVIper
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I totally disagree with that notion, I was giving my own opinion. Like if I ask a girl that's still in college and I want to go to some fancy restaurant I'll pay because I don't know if she can afford it. It has nothing to do with me "being a men" because I do the same for friends.
All these idiots saying you have to pay if you want to get laid are kinda moronic.
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Alter_Fridge
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Even a shitty date where nothing went well?
Tesseract
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cryptoadam
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What kind of effeminate soy boy doesn't pay on the first date.
Alter_Fridge
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Nymphae
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This is the attitude I don't get. I have never once paid a bill for a date, always split. The one time I recall going to pay, the girl stopped me and said we should split. I think they see it as a power move. It's an outdated custom with no reasoning behind it anymore other than "I feel like women expect it and that I'm not a man if I don't"
cryptoadam
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I guess maybe its just me, I don't like people paying for me, especially people I just meet. This would include friends and dates. Even now with my GF I still feel guilty when she pays. Sometimes I slip the cash back in her purse LOL.
Nymphae
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Well yeah I'm not saying she should pay lol. I just think it's fair to both pay for yourselves, and don't see any compelling reason to have one party pay for the other in a typical first few dates situation.
Yeah I'm the same I really hate when people spend their money on me actually.
Alter_Fridge
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I didn't initially say it but I think nuance is needed as to whether you insisting to pay will go down well or not
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MilkyJoe
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Are you a virgin?
Alter_Fridge
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What's the cut off date till you're a born again
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Deleted member 1159
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You've already been answered. If she takes offense to you paying the bill, she's not worth keeping around. If she wants to split, turn it down unless she really insists. Asking for her to split up front is a bitch move. This isn't difficult.
Alter_Fridge
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That's what I said
nush
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It's in some cases to stop the man thinking he's owed sex after the date.
Alter_Fridge
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You may have forgotten now you're hitched, but the girl doesn't sit there when the bill comes, she actively reaches for her purse the same time the guy reaches for his wallet
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Deleted member 1159
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"Nah I got it, don't worry about it."
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-Which, by the way, is the exact scenario that played out on the first date with my wife. And she let me pay, and didn't bring it up again the rest of the night.
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llien
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You may have missed the recent updates, you privileged fuck.
And, obviously:
But on the serious note: as likely for the most of the human history, as countless studies show, females expect males to show ability to provide and readiness to spend resources on them. I'd say, it's obvious why when taking into account how we reproduce.
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Foamy
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Maybe if you're a scrub.
You might as well ask for gas money too. Assuming you didn't take the bus.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Yeah don’t pay the bill. Back then it was a social expectation, and that expectation has changed. I haven’t dated in years, but during the last couple years I dated, I always did a 50/50 split.
If a woman expects you to pay nowadays, she is either conservative or has a double standard with regards to feminism. Make sure you understand what you are getting yourself into.
I just want to retire early and dating a parasite won’t get me there. Thankfully I met a woman who runs her own business and pays for herself always.
If a woman expects you to pay nowadays, she is either conservative or has a double standard with regards to feminism. Make sure you understand what you are getting yourself into.
I just want to retire early and dating a parasite won’t get me there. Thankfully I met a woman who runs her own business and pays for herself always.
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King of Foxes
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And thats the lesson you want your children to know? That theit mother pays and looks after their father?
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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That's what happens when you deny the existence of Satan.
newtypepilot
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always pay the bill. If she offers to split it, say "you can treat me next time", thus guarantee you a second date, OR suggest to get some desserts where she can treat you
Goro Majima
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Dinner is a terrible first date if you’re doing the online thing anyway. The only thing worse is a movie.
Meeting up at a bar and getting some appetizers at best was my go to. Most of those places have darts and other random games you can play too.
But yeah it’s gonna be your treat if you’re the guy. The only exception I’ve seen to this rule is when you date a young hipster chick or something where they may insist on splitting the check.
However, even if you’re buying, when you meet for drinks you can typically tell before the third or even second round of drinks if it’s going well so it’s no more of a loss than buying a girl a drink at a bar.
Meeting up at a bar and getting some appetizers at best was my go to. Most of those places have darts and other random games you can play too.
But yeah it’s gonna be your treat if you’re the guy. The only exception I’ve seen to this rule is when you date a young hipster chick or something where they may insist on splitting the check.
However, even if you’re buying, when you meet for drinks you can typically tell before the third or even second round of drinks if it’s going well so it’s no more of a loss than buying a girl a drink at a bar.
Torrent of Pork
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I'll pay the bill on the first date, but I expect a quality blowjob at minimum by the third.
Halo is Back
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My parents raised me to be a proper gentleman so I pay in full on the first date
chimpsteaks
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I offer to pay for my guest, but I see that more as a friendly courtesy than some chivalrous gesture. If she says she wants to split, I agree to it.
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