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First date out to dinner - offering to pay the whole bill - simp material?
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I'm uh, I'm free Saturday...
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
My girlfriend doesn’t pay for me, we go 50/50. Sometimes I pay, other times she pays. I don’t know if we are exactly 50/50, but we strive for that.
Also, I am not sure if I am having children, but if I do, I am teaching them to not pay for someone else. There was a point in time during which I also thought I needed to pay for the attention of beautiful women. However, as I grew into who I am today, I realized that all I needed was my charisma. If that won’t move the needle, then there is no point in trying.
Also, a dinner at a restaurant is a not my choice for a first date. Take her to a place that represents who you are. A cool hike, a cheap state school sports game, stargazing, biking... even corny shit like Mario Kart and a homemade meal is a much better first date that dinning outside.
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My go to is, when the bill comes, I suggest, I'll pay the whole bill if she pays the tip. Never not worked.
DanteFox
Member
I personally pay if I invited them out, but my rule is I don't take then somewhere that I'm struggling to afford and would feel like a chump if things didn't work out.
i.e. don't take them to a five star restaurant if you're working at Vons. If you work on wallstreet, ok then you can afford more without breaking a sweat.
The point is, don't try to try to buy their favor in a begging and pleading way, thinking that spending more will get them to like you. I've just taken girls to a local taco shop on first dates. No way in hell am I taking a chick I barely know to the same restaurant i take my mother who raised me for mother's day.
i.e. don't take them to a five star restaurant if you're working at Vons. If you work on wallstreet, ok then you can afford more without breaking a sweat.
The point is, don't try to try to buy their favor in a begging and pleading way, thinking that spending more will get them to like you. I've just taken girls to a local taco shop on first dates. No way in hell am I taking a chick I barely know to the same restaurant i take my mother who raised me for mother's day.
Azurro
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You have never dated Russian women, have you? You better do if you want to see her again.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Modern day answer: First to invite is first to offer to pay, splitting the bill being reciprocated is a good sign though.
My personal answer from not having dated for decades (married with kids): I pay like a gentleman and set a standard up front.
My personal answer from not having dated for decades (married with kids): I pay like a gentleman and set a standard up front.
greenteaforme
Member
It seems like a pride thing for guys, I always offer to split it but if the guy insists on paying I let him pay. I think it's very nice. When I go on dates with women, we tend to split or just agree on it beforehand.
If a woman is upset or turned off by you offering to do a nice thing for her, just leave. She isn't worth the hassle, trust me.
If a woman is upset or turned off by you offering to do a nice thing for her, just leave. She isn't worth the hassle, trust me.
Punished Miku
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Have fun blowing all your money losers! My girl makes good money and takes turns paying. She spoils the shit out of me and enjoys spending on me, and I enjoy spending money on her and it's 50/50. It genuinely cheers her up to do something nice for me, and vice versa.
You're the one caught up in some old code of ethics from 100 years ago, or trying to overcompensate through bribery.
First date, the guy should expect to pay. After that, it should pretty much be 50/50 unless it's some special occasion. When I've dated girls in the past that are flat broke, I paid for everything all the time. If you date a girl that works and has a real job, then it's just bizarre to pay for everything.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
"i'll pay for this"
Girl: "are you sure"
Me " yeah, you can get the next one (cheeky smile)"
Her: sopping wet
Girl: "are you sure"
Me " yeah, you can get the next one (cheeky smile)"
Her: sopping wet
Raven117
Member
Offer to pay, if she insists let her pay her half. If she goes into some rant, just say it’s how your mother raised you.
Come up with some joke saying she can pick up the next one and be done with it.
Don’t make it a big deal one way or another.
Just think of the coolest dudes ever, they would pay for their dates dinner on a first date.
Come up with some joke saying she can pick up the next one and be done with it.
Don’t make it a big deal one way or another.
Just think of the coolest dudes ever, they would pay for their dates dinner on a first date.
Do you invite people to your house and charge them for dinner? It must have cost you money to prepare it right?
Same goes for inviting guests out for dinner.
The folks whose meals I don’t intentionally pay for are close friends but it’s not a hard rule. Sometimes one will grab the bill and I’ll do it another time.
This whole splitting the cost of meal for a date thing is odd to me. If a meal is so expensive it causes your wallet to sweat, scale things down.
It makes no sense to me that people find equality or status in paying an insignificant amount of money for a meal.
Same goes for inviting guests out for dinner.
The folks whose meals I don’t intentionally pay for are close friends but it’s not a hard rule. Sometimes one will grab the bill and I’ll do it another time.
This whole splitting the cost of meal for a date thing is odd to me. If a meal is so expensive it causes your wallet to sweat, scale things down.
It makes no sense to me that people find equality or status in paying an insignificant amount of money for a meal.
GoldenEye Samurai
Member
Yep. I wouldn’t even consider not paying the bill myself.
PSYGN
Member
Oh no, not the whole dinner bill.
You don't offer, you just do. If she stops you and wants to pay for some of it, that's pretty damn cool of her.
King of Foxes
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Imagine your kids growing up seeing their mother look after their father
Don't even have to pick them up. As long as you're the inviter its a nice gesture to pay.
But never press the issue if they want to split the bill. Just go with it.
Hulk_Smash
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That’s not the reason why you pay. And BTW, it’s only the first date or so. Then after that, we split the bill 50/50 except on special occasions.
The Lunch Legend
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
I pay for everything , including her water bill.
You can do that when you're filthy rich.
You can do that when you're filthy rich.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Imagine two people with careers both making money and doing well. Oh no!
royox
Member
Didn't pay the bill of the dinner during my 1st date with my GF, she's still reminds me about it 2 years after tho . Told her I wasn't paying as a way of saying her I see her as an equal and not somebody that needs my money for dinner.
I paid next dinner as a sign that I can do whathever the fuck I want. She got so confused. The good thing is that she's not on this totallitarian equality shit, she's the kind of woman that wants the guy to pay for everything on the 1st date.
. Told her I wasn't paying as a way of saying her I see her as an equal and not somebody that needs my money for dinner.I paid next dinner as a sign that I can do whathever the fuck I want. She got so confused
. The good thing is that she's not on this totallitarian equality shit, she's the kind of woman that wants the guy to pay for everything on the 1st date.
supernova8
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If a girl asks me out is she going to pay the whole bill?
I would pay the bill if I like her and want to make a good impression.
If I'm not so into her I can ask to split the bill because I would give zero shits what she thinks about it.
If you're not hoping to get laid/meet again and get laid again/develop it into a proper relationship/fuck buddies, there's literally no benefit to paying the bill.
I would pay the bill if I like her and want to make a good impression.
If I'm not so into her I can ask to split the bill because I would give zero shits what she thinks about it.
If you're not hoping to get laid/meet again and get laid again/develop it into a proper relationship/fuck buddies, there's literally no benefit to paying the bill.
Just on thought: "You cheap mofo."
Frito_Pendejo
Member
Dude just pay the fucking bill. Good lord.
Punished Miku
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More like the normalization of some women, from entitled Karens into normal, considerate people that expect normal equality, not special princess treatment for life.
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Jesus Carbomb
From Water into Guinness
Lol@ letting her eat.
supernova8
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I wonder where the whole men paying came from. Did women start asking or did men start offering?
Probably some butt ugly (rich) fucker started flashing the cash and then non-ugly guys had to join in to stay in the race.
Probably some butt ugly (rich) fucker started flashing the cash and then non-ugly guys had to join in to stay in the race.
Nester99
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Men have always been the providers, this only started to change 50-80 years ago.
Women rarely had jobs outside the home before then.
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GingerNathan
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I think it comes from the traditional patriarchal structure of women needing to be looked after because they're delicate and precious. I think the feminist take is similar but they take it further saying that it's a form of control and ownership and that it's a sexist practise.
supernova8
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I wonder how many self-styled feminist women would reject having dinner paid for by a guy on a date. Even if they worked in the same company, same job and responsibilities, and were on exactly the same salary and benefits.
I'm going to say between 0 and 1.
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HotPocket69
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No you still pay the whole thing even if she offers.
Jesus christ guys. This is Dating 101 basics. Do you want some ass or not?
HotPocket69
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Nah you’re good. Chivalry is dead though. And women killed it.
NecrosaroIII
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Worked for me. And I'm married.
Nymphae
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Amazing that people think of this transactionally, do you really think a women is going to withhold sex from a guy she is into on the first/second/third date because you didn't pay a bill for her? She knows if you're fucking minutes, possibly seconds after seeing you. Guys have to let go of this strange mentality that you are the provider still and women reward dinners with sex.
#Phonepunk#
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Offering to pay the whole bill is alpha you are demonstrating your worth as provider
I think simping is more self defacing. Nothing shameful in buying someone dinner.
Wanting to split the bill is lame as well. You putting your financial security ahead of her. These are signals you send.
It doesn’t even matter if “it’s not fair” if u want fair then might as well go full soy for the sjw pussy
I think simping is more self defacing. Nothing shameful in buying someone dinner.
Wanting to split the bill is lame as well. You putting your financial security ahead of her. These are signals you send.
It doesn’t even matter if “it’s not fair” if u want fair then might as well go full soy for the sjw pussy
HotPocket69
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Reptars Revenge
Member
First few dates I always offer to pay and read her reaction when she inevitably offers to split it. If she’s dead set on splitting I’ll oblige but if she’s just saying it for courtesy I’ll say no it’s ok I got it.
Mitsuda Maniac
Member
It's true that a woman knows if she would fuck you within about 5 seconds from the time she first sees you. Even if she likes you though, she has probably also seen about 50 other dudes in the last week that she would fuck. You have to make yourself stand out and do a whole shitload of favorable things to actually get to the point of having sex. Maybe you are so hot that she will want to bang you regardless of how you handle the date, but I always go with the tried and true method of being as charming, funny, and generous as possible.
Not true. If you want to hold open doors, pay for or offer to pay for meals, give up seats on public transport for someone, etc... do it. It is up to the other party to tell you if it's not necessary or if they aren't comfortable with it or if they want to split a check.
First dates, man coffee or drinks are so much better than dinner.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
Buying your SO a birthday present, absolute simp behaviour.
*pumps iron*
*pumps iron*
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Just pay for the damn food, man. It ain't that hard.
Nymphae
Banned
No u
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I prefer the reality where I optimize my chances for a good impression, thus increasing the likelihood that I engage in bountiful copulation.
SurprisedPikachu
Member
Traditionally the man pays for the meal to show the woman that he can afford it which gives her reassurance that he will provide for her. Not at all a SIMP thing. Not even close.
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