First Horizon review [Engadget]

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Tratorn

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I'm under embargo until 3am, our review will be posted at noon on Monday. But few complaints. Love the combat, easily the best open world moment-to-moment combat there is to date and I'll take any MGSV arguments to a throwdown any day, HZD is just so damn smooth and fun! Unfortunately, despite the awesomely different ways you can take machines down, it starts to get repetitive, to the point you'll often run away most of the time Red Dead style. This game is for the farming crowd...I'm not that guy but if you are you'll love this system, prepare to hunt and hunt and then maybe you'll tackle a story mission. Not for me.

So I'm curious about how you (or other reviewers) handle such things when reviewing a game. You seem to know/think that things like the crafting and loot system are implemented well in the game, but it's just not something you personally like in games. How do you evaluate something like this in your reviews and how does it effect the score? Do you try to judge those things as someone who likes them or does your subjective feeling prevent you to give them a thumbs up for that?
 

vivekTO

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I predict 80 - 85.

Would love to see a better score but I feel that as its Guerillas first foray into this genre they will either do a number of things wrong or more likely not make it expansive enough.
 
Going to predict a high MC with 91.

I feel like given the issues that have been brought up in previews and impressions, they don't seem to be big enough to warrant as much concern given the supposed quality of the rest of the game. And especially since the story and writing seem good, which people have been pleasantly surprised with and impressed by. Even something like the side quests in the impressions have been compared more to the Witcher 3 style than other AAA RPGs, which bodes well I would think.
 

vivekTO

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Going to predict a high MC with 91.

I feel like given the issues that have been brought up in previews and impressions, they don't seem to be big enough to warrant as much concern given the supposed quality of the rest of the game. And especially since the story and writing seem good, which people have been pleasantly surprised with and impressed by. Even something like the side quests in the impressions have been compared more to the Witcher 3 style than other AAA RPGs, which bodes well I would think.

I think it will end up just below 90 , my initial prediction before all impressions was 85 ,
I am going to fail badly , i think.

Also i checked on twiiter , one of the reviewer give it a 9.5!! So you can be right too!!
 

Gudji

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I guess it will be a mix. There will be somewhere in there a 7 or something like that, but most scores will be between 8-9 with some higher scores here and there.

I know I'm going to enjoy the game since already seen a ton of it on streams, but I would be really happy for GG if this game reviewed really really well. Always defended the idea that this studio was capable of more than what they've shown with Killzone, but all I kept hearing was stuff like "GG doesn't make good games", "GG doesn't know how to make a good story or characters", etc.
 
I guess it will be a mix. There will be somewhere in there a 7 or something like that, but most scores will be between 8-9 with some higher scores here and there.

I know I'm going to enjoy the game since already seen a ton of it on streams, but I would be really happy for GG if this game reviewed really really well. Always defended the idea that this studio was capable of more than what they've shown with Killzone, but all I kept hearing was stuff like "GG doesn't make good games", "GG doesn't know how to make a good story or characters", etc.
I love Killzone but to be fair the story and characters have never been anything special. Horizon looks like a big step forward in that regard.
 

vivekTO

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The thing i am liking the most is that my biggest concern, about the story, is slightly gone.

Also, i think its getting universally praises.
 
90+ would be hard because it would require the bigger sites to all give 9's which is not as likely to happen since games rarely get those scores as it is. As somebody above said, 85ish where it'll probably fall. Like if that videogamer review would've had a score, it would've been in the 7.5-8 ish range going by the language. Where as that first review would've been a 9+. So they'd balance each other out

And then you have sites that use a 5 star scale. Which also would affect things because it would probably get a lot of 4's

Good post.
I'm think it will be between 83-87 personally. For me anything above 83 is a must play game so it's looking good for Horizon Zero Dawn.
 
Ill be posting translations of the conclusions of my reviews (they're dutch) in the review thread when the embargo ends. Theyre from 2 sites who also are on metacritic so I suppose its relevant enough :)

Curious to what other journalists think and if they're of the same opinion as me!
 
Ill be posting translations of the conclusions of my reviews (they're dutch) in the review thread when the embargo ends. Theyre from 2 sites who also are on metacritic so I suppose its relevant enough :)

Curious to what other journalists think and if they're of the same opinion as me!

What site are you writing for?
 

vivekTO

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I don't know how people can take tweets and accounts like that seriously.

Because people like me try to to dig deep, before posting anything. He is Followed by Shinobi and Adam boyes and insomaniac games, i think he is not just anyone on the twitter.
 
Ill be posting translations of the conclusions of my reviews (they're dutch) in the review thread when the embargo ends. Theyre from 2 sites who also are on metacritic so I suppose its relevant enough :)

Curious to what other journalists think and if they're of the same opinion as me!

Does it seem like your opinions will align with other journos based on what we've heard so far?
 
Because people like me try to to dig deep, before posting anything. He is Followed by Shinobi and Adam boyes and insomanica games, i think he is not just anyone on the twitter.

I'm assuming that the twitter account belongs to Thuway.

Which is actually a bit of a mixed bag for reliability (no offence to Thuway, he's just lets the hype speak through him some times) which is what I'm assuming that Ikuu is referring to.
 

vivekTO

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No need to get defensive over someone being skeptical about a random Twitter user's post.

I think i have explained about the randomness in my previous post!!

I'm assuming that the twitter account belongs to Thuway.

Which is actually a bit of a mixed bag for reliability (no offence to Thuway, he's just lets the hype speak through him some times) which is what I'm assuming that Ikuu is referring to.

So that means he is not just random twitter account.
Sorry guys if i offended anyone , i will edit my Post.Also its just only 17 hours before the Embargo lifts.
 
We have other reviewers here, "I am under embargo, but here are my complaints anyway", lol.

No idea why anyone would risk their job on something like this.

Edit: although maybe its not everyones daytime job so they dont take it as serious or whatever.

Anyway super curious to know what everyone else will give it!
 

Nya

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I am happy about the positive impressions but I can't help feeling like its going to be one of those games that reviews really well but I end up disliking due the lack of charm.

Aloy just doesn't click with me no matter how hard I try :(
 

Plum

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I am happy about the positive impressions but I can't help feeling like its going to be one of those game that reviews really well but I end up disliking due the lack of charm.

Aloy just doesn't click with me no matter how hard I try :(

I definitely agree to a point, though I don't see myself disliking it when I eventually end up playing it later in the year. My highly subjective opinion is that the vibes could be stronger. If the game is wasn't as technically good as this seems to be the 'feeling' wouldn't be part of the equation so that's not a slight on the game itself, just my feelings towards it. Though maybe I'm just a weaboo because Overwatch was the only game that I loved the 'feeling' of last year.
 

thelastword

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I don't know how people can take tweets and accounts like that seriously.
Perhaps we should esteem your opinion, (which is void, since you have not played Zero Dawn) over his, who has played it.....makes sense right ;) SMH...

I'm pretty sure, if his opinion was Zero Dawn's story is absolute shit, his opinion should be lauded amirite?
 

Allonym

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92 Metacritic. The game will be a runaway commercial success and be a critical darling, I feel. It's novel while also familiar, utilizes ideas from previous genre staples while creating an identity all its own. Reading the reviews tomorrow should be interesting. Looks like it'll be a great day. Hopefully, this elevates Guerrilla even further and people don't simply bash them because they've made Killzone games...which are still great (KZ2/KZ3) and good (KZ1/Shadowfall) and they are mentioned in the same company as ND in terms of game creation. Horizon's success can only be a good thing for the market, it'll encourage more developers to try new things that they're relatively unfamiliar with and push publishers to support these endeavors.
 
I am happy about the positive impressions but I can't help feeling like its going to be one of those games that reviews really well but I end up disliking due the lack of charm.

Aloy just doesn't click with me no matter how hard I try :(

Would she have clicked with you if they went with this art style instead? Would that have charmed you?

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