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[The Shapesmith]

Loved Momoa in Stargate Atlantis so was excited about the casting choice. But seriously who the hell is that? When did Aquaman start sporting tattoos all over his body? Warner Bros needs to take a b lesson from their tv dept to see the best way to handle modern takes on their classic characters.

 

[Ovek]

He looks cool I hope he beats the shit out Superman for what Zod did to the ocean.

 

[Anton Sugar]

This thread reminded me how stupid Wonder Woman's heels are.

Momoa/Aquaman looks pretty good. I like the tattoos--wonder if any of that was his idea, considering his background.

 

[DaveH]

This thread reminded me how stupid Wonder Woman's heels are.

I don't have a problem with it considering the origins of heels came from horseback riding... if the Amazons are / were a cavalry-culture, it's reasonable that there would be stylistic flourishes that acknowledge that.

Via the BBC:

"The high heel was worn for centuries throughout the near east as a form of riding footwear," says Elizabeth Semmelhack of the Bata Shoe Museum in Toronto.

Good horsemanship was essential to the fighting styles of Persia - the historical name for modern-day Iran.

"When the soldier stood up in his stirrups, the heel helped him to secure his stance so that he could shoot his bow and arrow more effectively," says Semmelhack.

At the end of the 16th Century, Persia's Shah Abbas I had the largest cavalry in the world. He was keen to forge links with rulers in Western Europe to help him defeat his great enemy, the Ottoman Empire.

Even if her heels don't serve that role, it's not irrational that it might be part of the Amazonian motif.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I don't have a problem with it considering the origins of heels came from horseback riding... if the Amazons are / were a cavalry-culture, it's reasonable that there would be stylistic flourishes that acknowledge that.

Via the BBC:



Even if her heels don't serve that role, it's not irrational that it might be part of the Amazonian motif.

I thought they were designed to just secure the rider into stirrups (kinda like how cowboy boots are used):

Hers look like really tall wedges.

 

[.la1n]

Looks a lot better than I would have ever imagined a live action Aquaman could look.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

The costume looks pretty awesome to me. That trident is overly complicated though, there's no need for it to look like the grillework from a fence.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Jason Momoa is an awesome dude, hope his career kicks off after this.

 

[studyguy]

Momoa looks badass. I hope this does well.

 

[Loxley]

Jason Momoa is an awesome dude, hope his career kicks off after this.

That Conan movie was such a freaking bummer. Game of Thrones definitely helped him bounce back.

 

[Angelus Errare]

How has twitter been reacting to this? I haven't heard anything about how AM isn't blonde haired & blue eyed.

 

[thecouncil]

woah, i didnt expect an aquaman looking like that. i might watch it now because it looks bad ass

For you and anyone else that says something similar, what did you expect from a Zack Snyder / Jason Mamoa combination? I'd think that what we got here couldn't be any more expected.

 

[Subitai]

That Conan movie was such a freaking bummer. Game of Thrones definitely helped him bounce back.

Conan wasn't his fault.

 

[Loxley]

Conan wasn't his fault.

Oh I'm not saying it was, that movie's script was absolutely terrible. No actor could have done anything worthwhile with it.

 

[Foggy]

How has twitter been reacting to this? I haven't heard anything about how AM isn't blonde haired & blue eyed.

Oh they're certainly out there

 

[studyguy]

How has twitter been reacting to this? I haven't heard anything about how AM isn't blonde haired & blue eyed.

His name is actually trending right now.
At a quick glance most of the reaction seems to be

Also fish jokes. Lots of them.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

How has twitter been reacting to this? I haven't heard anything about how AM isn't blonde haired & blue eyed.

Don't go on Twitter for that, go to ComicBookMovie.

 

[Kinyou]

I don't have a problem with it considering the origins of heels came from horseback riding... if the Amazons are / were a cavalry-culture, it's reasonable that there would be stylistic flourishes that acknowledge that.

Via the BBC:



Even if her heels don't serve that role, it's not irrational that it might be part of the Amazonian motif.

Butchers also wore heels because they had to walk through so much blood at work. Might also apply to Wonder Woman, lol

 

[guek]

Anyone else think he'd make a better Vandal Savage than Aquaman? Still a good casting regardless but i can't get that thought out of my head.

 

[Gonzalez]

Don't go on Twitter for that, go to ComicBookMovie.

Okay sure...

*Looks at avatar*

Nice try, pal. You almost had me there.

 

[strafer]

The fight scene with Stallone was pretty awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9NBswZ9uY

 

[Messypandas]

 

[Plywood]

Looks good!

Also, because I haven't seen anything posted anywhere, a quick 'n' dirty brighten up:

 

[Schweinehund]

Anyone else think he'd make a better Vandal Savage than Aquaman? Still a good casting regardless but i can't get that thought out of my head.

He'd make a good first born.

 

[kunonabi]

looks as shitty as I expected. I love Aquaman but I have no interest in where this going.

 

[TalonJH]

Surprising looks awesome.

 

[The Lamonster]

Can't we just have a Superman/Batman movie without all the clutter like Wonder Woman and Aquaman? It's OUTRAGEOUS

 

[Rooster12]

Don't mention shit about talking to/psychically linked to (aka talking to) sea life.

So you don't wanna see stuff like this:

 

[TheContact]

Contract negotiations failed with Vincent Chase, I see. What a shame.

Because JC isn't directing it

 

[Father_Brain]

I think people grossly overestimate how much The Avengers audience knew about the previous Marvel Studios films. The biggest Phase 1 film made half of The Avengers box-office. Which is why Joss treats The Avengers as mostly self-contained, and any elements alluding to earlier films are re-explained and simplified. Shit, Thor and Loki's entire relationship is summed up as a punchline. 'He's adopted.'

Not to mention how if an audience sees Aquaman walking out of the Goddamn ocean holding a fucking trident, they'll connect the dots that:

a) He's not human.
b) He's angry enough to be on land.
c) He not only lives underwater, he thrived there.

and:

d) Shit is about to get real.

I mean... if people see The Flash running fast, they know he's got superspeed. All you need is him to say 'I was hit by lightning and got superspeed' and have another character be all 'that... doesn't make any sense' and then Flash shrugs. Like it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, the audience sees he has superspeed regardless and that's all the information they need.

Treating a character/concept as though they've already been established in-universe, which Avengers did, is not at all the same thing as presupposing extensive audience familiarity with a character, which you're correct to note that Avengers didn't; pretty much any good DC/Marvel comic manages to do the former and avoid the latter. You're mistaken to conflate those two things. If Avengers had had to introduce the entire concept of Asgard, it'd have been a very different film (and probably a worse one, IMO).

As for the rest, well, I agree about the Flash and Cyborg, at least; it shouldn't be hard to distill the relevant parts of their origins into a few lines of exposition.

WW and Aquaman, though... can we at least agree that there's some point at which "it's a superhero universe, just roll with it" ceases to work as a replacement for more in-depth exposition?

Extreme hypothetical: Suppose that Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew appear halfway through Justice League. Would you expect the JL's response to be to shrug their shoulders and go "cool, superpowered cartoon animals, let's team up?"

 

[poppabk]

Quicksilver isn't a character, he's a plot device in DOFP, and it's by and large most people's favorite scene in the movie.

They throw in an easter egg to hardcore fans about his relationship to Magneto and his little sister, but the movie never even bothers to explain how they find him, or why he's not helping in the final fight.

Audiences simply do not care about origin stories explained in exhausting detail.

How many people that saw Avengers actually watched Ang Lee Hulk or Incredible Hulk, two underperforming flops? And yet, they got the basic run down, he's a smart guy who turns into a monster when he's angry. Here, watch him CGI smash stuff.

The Joker never had an origin story in TDK. He just shows up one day, and he's the Joker, and he hates Batman. He's a great character, who's obviously a bad guy, so the audience roles with it.

How many people do you think were wondering
'what's the big deal with this scientist?'
'what other guy, what is he talking about?'
'holy shit he just transformed into a green giant, I didn't see that coming, what's this guys name? Hulk, ha yeah that fits'

The joker gets his own movie as the bad guy to establish himself. Dark Knight is his origin story.

And if Quicksilver is supposed to be an important character, and assuming he was the guy that could slow down time, then he worked as another weird mutant in a movie series full of mutants, but he didn't impart any more importance than the guy makes spines come out of his face in X3.

 

[Rock And Roll]

Meh not really down with the dark gritty look. Call me a purist but I'm partial to orange and green.

 

[Mr_Zombie]

That level of cursory explanation doesn't work if the entire point of the plot is that superheroes are only just emerging. (Flash at least wouldn't require much more than that, to be fair)

As I said, I'd be fine with BvS abandoning MoS' attempt at ultra-realism and going the Incredibles/George Miller JL route. But that's so far removed from MoS tonally that I just don't see it happening.

How was MoS ultra-realistic, when the whole plot is about aliens invading Earth, huge-ass spaceships and people flying around and shooting lasers?

Going with The Matrix as an example of a movie that only explains to you what's happening in a 5 min sequence is hilarious. Did the rest of the movie just fly by your head?

It spends an enormous amount of time establishing the Universe, characters, rules and roles.

I know. What I meant is you don't know what's happening in the movie (why can Trinity jump from a roof to roof and how can she disappear inside a telephone booth, why is it possible for agents to literally shut Tom's mouth and what's with the little mechanical parasite that they injected into his stomach etc.) until the sequence when Neo is freed from the Matrix and Morpheus explains to him what's really going on. Then you start learning the universe and its rules.

The same can happened in a hero movie. Just briefly introduce the characters and then let the audience learn about them as the story flows.

By the way it's not about the audience being intelligent, it's about the audience caring. And the audience won't care for Aquaman or Wonder Woman if they know next to nothing about them. Batman and Superman are going to greatly overshadow everybody else to the point of turning them irrelevant. That said it's called Batman vs Superman, so it makes sense.

Yes, that's a Batman's and Superman's movie - WW, Aquaman and others will probably be there just serving as background characters. And I'm fine with that. As I said, I prefer that approach: quickly introduce characters in one movie and then give them solo movies where they are already known and established characters instead of first devoting each character a movie with slow character building and then, after few years of creating universe, finally serving a long anticipated team movie. And I really don't want yet another origin story. If Sony's new Spider-Man movie will once again spent half of the movie on uncle Ben's death and Peter learning that "with great power comes great responsibility" I will probably punch the person sitting next to me. :|

 

[Penguin]

I know it's thread-whining, but sweet mother of all that is holy can we stop with this.

It's a conversation that has popped up time and time again.

Neither side changes their stance, and none of the points change.

Yes, it isn't world-building how some people would have preferred. Yes, it can turn out to be a mess.

Nothing has changed in that regard in nearly the year and ahalf since we started hearing that more than Batman and Superman would be in this film.

 

[Anton Sugar]

The Joker works because he's basically character as metaphor. We don't need to know his story, we simply understand "what" he is and what he represents. It's like Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men.

I don't know that Aquaman fits the same mold, but who knows?

 

[Kaiterra]

Why is he carrying a pitchfork? Does he do a lot of farming underwater?

 

[ReplacementPelican]

I'm really not feeling this for some reason, I just think it looks a bit shit.

 

[Vyer]

Looks pretty great. Hope Momoa does good work with this.

 

[Dark Ninja]

I can't unsee his game of thrones character just wearing gold armor. Whats with that tumblr image filter

 

[ICPEE]

Marvel has proven that people would probably love the bright yellow spandex. The whole "Moviegoers won't want to go see people in bright spandex costumes running around." excuse was debunked a while ago.

Ok well I see your point.

 

[EroticSushi]

 

[guek]

Why is he carrying a pitchfork? Does he do a lot of farming underwater?

 

[Ophelion]

Why is he carrying a pitchfork? Does he do a lot of farming underwater?

Now, why didn't I notice that his "trident" didn't have three prongs till you said that?

...he still looks cool though, so whatever.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Now, why didn't I notice that his "trident" didn't have three prongs till you said that?

...he still looks cool though, so whatever.

Seems relatively accurate

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

So we know the Flash is getting a movie and has been cast (I can't see it being better than Arrowverse and I probably won't give it a fair shake because I don't think DC is being fair to the Arrowverse).

Cyborg, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman will all be introduced in BvS. Batman and Superman are the title characters.

All that leaves is Green Lantern. I can't seem to find any info. Has DC said anything about GL in regards to the new DCLAU?

 

[BadAss2961]

So we know the Flash is getting a movie and has been cast (I can't see it being better than Arrowverse and I probably won't give it a fair shake because I don't think DC is being fair to the Arrowverse, Cyborg, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman will all be introduced in BvS. Batman and Superman are the title characters.

All that leaves is Green Lantern. I can't seem to find any info. Has DC said anything about GL in regards to the new DCLAU?

A Green Lantern movie is listed for 2020. That's all the info there is.

 

[Father_Brain]

How was MoS ultra-realistic, when the whole plot is about aliens invading Earth, huge-ass spaceships and people flying around and shooting lasers?

Perhaps that was a poor choice of words. But the tone and approach of MoS was very much "what if Superman and the Kryptonians landed in the real world" sci-fi, rather than superhero fantasy.

 

[Future Foundation]

How has twitter been reacting to this? I haven't heard anything about how AM isn't blonde haired & blue eyed.

“Sure, I’d fuck Aquaman.” - the internet right now.

Essentially that. Plus the requisite flailing and OHMYGOD. The reactions been mostly "holy shit, that's pretty cool".

There were some Marvel/MCU fans were trying to use/"take" the #unitetheseven tag for The Avengers.

 

[Mudcrab]

When's Manta?

 

[Raptor]

He looks exactly how I imagined him, badassery all around!