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[xKilltheMx]

Wait, this isnt a parody? What the hell.

I've lost all interest.

 

[shawnbuddy]

Wait, this isnt a parody? What the hell.

I've lost all interest.

No, it's just fan fiction with McFarlane himself playing the Mary Sue. Complete vanity project.

 

[fallengorn]

Damn it. Hopefully Adrianne Palicki can land on her feet.

Get her back on SHIELD.

 

[Blader]

I still think the first couple seasons of Family Guy were excellent.

 

[Tobor]

It cost two million dollars to make an episode of Family Guy. What the Cleveland Show any cheaper?

I'm sure.

I'm also sure The Orville costs significantly more.

 

[nintendork666]

Idk, I think it might be something I'd enjoy. Never was too big into Family Guy but the Ted movies are among my all time favorite comedies.

 

[Beer Monkey]

Idk, I think it might be something I'd enjoy. Never was too big into Family Guy but the Ted movies are among my all time favorite comedies.

TEDx is even funnier than Ted because of all the pseudoscience bullshit.

 

[Tobor]

Idk, I think it might be something I'd enjoy. Never was too big into Family Guy but the Ted movies are among my all time favorite comedies.

This isn't a comedy.

 

[17 Seconds]

Can't say I'm a fan of McFarlane, only thing of his I've enjoyed were the Family Guy Star Wars specials.

Family Guy - crap
American Dad - crapper
Cleveland Show - crappola
Ted - crappy
Ted 2 - crapistan
A Million Ways to Die in the West - crappy do too

for a guy that hates his stuff, you sure seem to watch a lot of it

 

[Fancyarcher]

While the other co-creators(Barker, Weitzman) had a much larger role in what American Dad became, I suppose you could chalk that up to being a McFarlane creation. It's the best thing he's had his hands in, in my opinion anyways.

People don't like to give credit Seth MacFarlane and while it's true that others writer fleshed out American Dad (this is actually true of most MacFarlane since he really doesn't write anything beyond the pilot for the shows he creates), but he voices the main characters, so I have no doubt he is or at least was involved in the production room.

BTW I gotta give MacFarlane credit for having a pretty consistent production staff in all of his productions animated & live-action, and he's the only person who gives Joel McNeely work these days which is great. People clearly like working with him, and I'm not even a huge fan myself.

 

[Wag]

While MacFarlane might be a decent writer at times, he can't act. He comes off as a total douche.

 

[Slayven]

While MacFarlane might be a decent writer at times, he can't act. He comes off as a total douche.

Dude has resting smart ass face

 

[Nachos]

So the guy who was at least partially responsible for the transgender episode of Family Guy, and, prior to release, thought the entire LGBT community would love it tried to tackle gender again?

 

[Boombloxer]

This is exactly what I expected. More power to him, but I have no interest in watching Seth MacFarlane masturbate on network TV just because he can.

Sigh.
Thought this was Galaxy Quest.

 

[L Thammy]

I'm sure.

I'm also sure The Orville costs significantly more.

Budgets I can see for Star Trek are close to one million per episode. Again, is The Orville that much more expensive?

 

[berzeli]

A couple more:
Collider (one star):

By playing it safe and showing a truly breathtaking lack of creativity, The Orville can’t even claim to be better than the myriad of Star Trek fan films that can currently be found on YouTube. If nothing else, at least those have a genuine sense of passion and adoration behind them, whereas MacFarlane’s xerox offers only empty veneer.

Since this seems to be the only positive review I might as well (aka a good reminder why you should never visit joblo):

The Orville is going to disappoint fans of McFarlane's trademark brand of humor but will likely make a ton of fans out of those looking for a smartly written voyage into the final frontier.

In the opening minutes of the debut episode, we get a glimpse at the Utopian future awaiting humanity in 400 years time. But, unlike Star Trek, The Orville doesn't skip over how actual people would talk or react. Mercer's first scene finds him returning to his apartment to find his wife, Kelly Grayson (Adrianne Palicki), having sex with a blue-skinned alien.

The humor of The Orville is somewhat hit or miss. Sometimes the jokes fall flat and lack the bite that some of McFarlane's animated series have as their trademark.

The Orville often feels like a working class version of Star Trek which is at once refreshing and very nostalgaic.

Seth McFarlane does a good job playing the Captain even if he isn't quite as charismatic as Patrick Stewart or William Shatner

Over the first three episodes provided for us in advance of the series premiere, the tone varies pretty widly.

The second and third episodes venture more into Trek territory with a story centered on an alien zoo and another with a very timely story about gender and sex changes. Like many of the best episodes of The Next Generation, The Orville is able to tackle contemporary political issues in a unique lens of a future where humanity has tackled and solved many racial problems plaguing society.

The humor is all over the place

[9/10]

 

[Nexus Zero]

Yes, there are a few Family Guy-esque punchlines scattered throughout, but as bafflingly as this sounds, The Orville is mostly a straightforward drama… and not a very good one, at that.

Just like that shit western film he made.

 

[Tobor]

Budgets I can see for Star Trek are close to one million per episode. Again, is The Orville that much more expensive?

What Star Trek show was a million per? Next generation 30 years ago?

Discovery, the new show, is $6 million an episode.

 

[Fury451]

Sounds like Mcfarlane wanted to play Star Trek on Fox's dime

Joke is on him, they'll cancel it within six episodes

 

[ZeoVGM]

Yes...?

 

[Oppo]

wow what the hell

here I saw the promo and thought, man, dude's smart, Galaxy Quest is ripe and basically can't come back now

how wrong i was

that said -- if he is trying to take a decent run at sci fi contemporary commentary in the guise of old school SF, I can't get too mad at him. who knows what happens during production. shit is hard, fam

 

[DarkArterialGore]

I had no knowledge of this show until I seen this thread a minute ago but I'm pleased it's not a goofy Star Trek parody.

I'll watch it as I'm a sucker for sci-fi TV shows(good or bad) even if the critics hate them.

 

[davepoobond]

I had no knowledge of this show until I seen this thread a minute ago but I'm pleased it's not a goofy Star Trek parody.

I'll watch it as I'm a sucker for sci-fi TV shows(good or bad) even if the critics hate them.

If it becomes more "stargate" kind of light-drama it might not be too bad now that I think about it

 

[Dehnus]

Can't say I'm a fan of McFarlane, only thing of his I've enjoyed were the Family Guy Star Wars specials.

Family Guy - crap
American Dad - crapper
Cleveland Show - crappola
Ted - crappy
Ted 2 - crapistan
A Million Ways to Die in the West - crappy do too

let me guess.. You like Friends and scrubs and other soap operas with a laugh track?

 

[SomedayTheFire]

A couple more:
Collider (one star):


Since this seems to be the only positive review I might as well (aka a good reminder why you should never visit joblo):



[9/10]

The Orville doesn't skip over how actual people would talk or react. Mercer's first scene finds him returning to his apartment to find his wife, Kelly Grayson (Adrianne Palicki), having sex with a blue-skinned alien.

Wait what

 

[caliph95]

let me guess.. You like Friends and scrubs and other soap operas with a laugh track?

I bet he is transformers fan and loves Adam Sandler amirite

Seriously dude

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

I'll give it one season.

 

[TrumanBurbank]

Seth hoping his Twitter fan mob will get him a second season

So happy people are digging the pre-screenings of @TheOrville

 

[berzeli]

Wait what

Nothing says working class like a captain coming home to see his wife cheating on him apparently.

(I have no idea wtf "working class Star Trek" is supposed to mean)

 

[caliph95]

Nothing says working class like a captain coming home to see his wife cheating on him apparently.

(I have no idea wtf "working class Star Trek" is supposed to mean)

I guess from a less utopian society

I would say lower ranked but Seth plays a captain

 

[Fast Forward]

TBF, even most real Trek series start as being bad. It's only later as the seasons go most of them became good. TNG was not even good until season 3. So, in that sense, Orville is following Trek lore.

However, that being said, probably will not last long enough to get past the awkward/bad stage. I doubt this show will make even a full season.

Shame.

A series in the vain of Galaxy Quest was/is a great idea.

 

[Slayven]

What Star Trek show was a million per? Next generation 30 years ago?

Discovery, the new show, is $6 million an episode.

Yeah TNG was like the first show to break a million an ep.

 

[StrawberryJam]

let me guess.. You like Friends and scrubs and other soap operas with a laugh track?

Seth McFarlane shows are on the level of shit laugh track sitcoms so, sorry, you can't pull that one.

 

[berzeli]

Two more:
Uproxx (Sepinwall): Seth MacFarlane’s ‘The Orville’ Isn’t A ‘Star Trek’ Spoof. It’s Just Bad ‘Star Trek’

Humor and drama can peacefully co-exist, even in this kind of setting — the aforementioned Galaxy Quest is both a Trek spoof and one of the better (unofficial) Star Trek movies — but that requires care and effort, where all of this feels slapped together at the last possible minute.

There’s a point in one episode where Captain Mercer tells an alien, “I’m just not gonna try comedy with you.” It’s a strategy that would serve The Orville well — or would if non-comic parts were worth the bother.

USA Today: Seth MacFarlane’s 'Star Trek'-inspired ‘The Orville’ flies off course [2/4]

The jokes are not specific enough to Star Trek, or even the sci-fi genre, to make the series a smart parody like the 1999 film Galaxy Quest. The Orville simply has no point of view, other than reverence for Star Trek. It was, and there are moments of The Orville that seem truly inspired, such as its third episode, which uses its sci-fi setting to (literally) put gender stereotypes on trial. But the episode doesn't follow through or say anything unique.

Instead, The Orville feels like a series that sounded good on paper — “Star Trek with Seth MacFarlane!” — but lost its way in the execution. The end result is more confusing than entertaining, and, with a genuine Star Trek series hitting CBS All Access later this month, feels unnecessary.

I guess from a less utopian society

I would say lower ranked but Seth plays a captain

It's a bad review from what seems to be a bad writer who can't convey their ideas effectively.

.

Update the OP you lazy bastard. The despair must be on full display.

 

[whyamihere]

Budgets I can see for Star Trek are close to one million per episode. Again, is The Orville that much more expensive?

lol what?

Yes. We know how much Discovery costs (~$8 mil) and just looking at Orville, it'sprobably north of $5-6 million an episode. Animated shows costs significantly less.

 

[JeffZero]

Not surprised. It hasn't looked good from the first. I'm still a bit disappointed, though, because there's some real talent attached to this project (I'm of the opinion McFarlane isn't a part of that equation, but I respect that the man has impressed millions of my peers) and it would have been nice to have two decent Treks and Trek-esques at once.

 

[Slayven]

Not surprised. It hasn't looked good from the first. I'm still s bit disappointed, though, because there's some real talent attached to this project (I'm of the opinion McFarlane isn't a part of that equation, but I respect that the man has impressed millions of my peers) and it would have been nice to have two decent Treks and Trek-esques at once.

Buy some Gargoyles dvds

 

[HawksWinStanley]

The only time Mac is funny is when he's writing stuff that can't air on network tv unless it has the leeway from being a cartoon.

 

[JeffZero]

Buy some Gargoyles dvds

I will buy some more Gargoyles DVDs

 

[BlackBanditSho]

So as a guy that actually enjoys Family Guy from time to time, but HATED all of his live action stuff, I was crossing my fingers that The Orville would be Seth's Galaxy Quest.
I had hope because Seth really is a sci-fi nut. You can see it all through Family Guy. He loves the material.

Sooooo maybe everyone expected Galaxy Quest, but now that I'm reading reviews and reactions, it's sounding a LOT closer tonally to Farscape, which is kind of exciting.

If it's anywhere near Farscape, I'll be happy. I'm so desperate for trek/sci-fi tv, that if this is good enough, I'm fine.

Now where's my FRINGE copycat??

 

[Slayven]

I will buy some more Gargoyles DVDs

Look at the Goliath Chronicles and wallow in your shame

 

[Lee Chaolan]

lol wait it's not a comedy, more of a drama? what the hell?

 

[KidGalactus]

I was wondering if this was going to be competition for Paul Scheer's Galaxy Quest show. Guess not.

Hmm?!

 

[Futurematic]

Hmm?!

Amazon is doing it.

 

[Hesh]

I think they actually made a joke about that in Movie 43, where he is pitching garbage but the other people are still interested and he mixes up Family Guy and American Dad or something like that. I might be remembering wrong, since that movie almost gave me an aneurysm it's so fucking bad.

That was actually from a Robot Chicken sketch. Or maybe they copied it for Movie 43, too (I never saw it because it looked like a dreadful movie).

 

[whyamihere]

Variety. Ouch.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/reviews/orville-review-seth-macfarlane-star-trek-fox-1202544522/

When the dust settles, “The Orville” may emerge as the most inexplicable show of the new season. It certainly never makes a convincing case for its existence. The first impression — that it exists so that creator and star Seth MacFarlane can do elaborate “Star Trek” cosplay — is only reinforced over the course of the tepid trio of episodes that kick off the show.

That’s not the only issue. On small and large screens, one of “Star Trek’s” most consistent faults is casting good actresses in key roles yet treating their characters with condescending and even sexist attitudes at times. As it dutifully excavates the Federation legacy, “The Orville” imports that deflating habit as well.

Adrianne Palicki’s Kelly Grayson, the ship’s second-in-command, is defined almost completely by the resentment that Ed Mercer (MacFarlane) and his best bro, navigator Gordon Malloy (Scott Grimes), display toward her. Ed and Kelly used to be married, but their relationship went sour: In the opening scene of “The Orville,” Ed finds Kelly cheating on him, and he never misses an opportunity to remind her of that.

And yet, even though her ex and his buddy frequently scold and try to shame her, “The Orville” would have viewers believe she may want to get back together with him. Kelly even says at one point she wants to “atone” for her actions, which is why she pulled strings to be assigned with her ex, who apparently wasn’t a very good husband. Perhaps an alien could find logic in that scenario, but it’s elusive to the human mind.

An air of self-congratulation hangs over the entire hour, as if MacFarlane, who wrote it, couldn’t get over his awe at his own bravery in engaging with a difficult, complex topic. Without giving anything away, suffice it to say that the show takes a big creative swing tackling issues of gender and identity, but it does not connect, and the end result is disastrous. If it’s challenging for “The Orville” to wring laughs from the audience, it’s all but impossible for it to earn the dramatic (and tone-deaf) conclusion it attempts in the third episode.

Also now has a 19 on Metacritic...

 

[berzeli]

Deadline didn't care for it either:

if your need for sci-fi is gnawing at you, hold your powder a couple more weeks and wait for Star Trek: Discovery, which premieres September 24. Even with the highly skilled likes of Norm Macdonald, Transparent's Jeffery Tambor, Holland Taylor, 24 vet Penny Johnson Jerald and Victor Garber making appearances alongside the Family Guy guy and the Friday Night Lights alum, The Orville's aspirations to find a new path to the final frontier in this age of Peak TV goes nowhere frat-boy fast.

In fact, with its urination gags and heavy-handedness on such topics as gender identity and racism, the only purpose of the lost-in-space The Orville seems to be to as a way for Fox to continue its lucrative relationship with MacFarlane and keep him happy.

Variety. Ouch.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/reviews/orville-review-seth-macfarlane-star-trek-fox-1202544522/
Also now has a 19 on Metacritic...

Too slow:

Variety:
I'm starting to think that Scott Buck is soon to become Seth's #1 fan for taking the heat off him.

 

[Friend of Sonic]

Norm MacDonald? Well shit I'll watch out of morbid curiosity

 

[Strike]

Another miss for him. Not that I'm too surprised. This looked like a huge dud in all the previews.

 

[GDGF]

I wanted Other Space.

I think we all wanted Other Space.