First reviews for Trank's Fantastic Four hit.

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Glass Rebel said:
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Where would you rank Kim Jong Un on a list of scariness compared to Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, and Pol Pot?
 
unholyrevenger72 said:
A: Fair enough
B: LOL No, mass audiences won't buy that shit. It's one thing when the hero has a single gimmick, Ant-Man. It's another when Reed's IQ score reads - Deus Ex Machina
C: Your F4 isn't someone elses F4
D: Doom is not timeless, Doom is dated as fuck. Doom is a product of Post WW2 and the Cold war, an era of honest to goodness Evil Dictators. Julian McMahon's Evil CEO is as close to Evil Dictator Doom you will ever get
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have you read any Doom appearances?
 
Huh. Devin Faraci really liked it (up until the end/third act).

For the first two acts this movie hums along. There is a real sense of the wonder of science, of the awe of exploration. Just as in the original comics this team illicitly takes control of their experiment - von Doom, worried that NASA will take their tech, asks if anyone knows who built the Saturn rockets while pointing out that everyone knows Neil Armstrong. Tipsy, impetuous, driven by the glory of breaking boundaries, the team ends up on what is called Planet Zero, and then things go all sorts of wrong.

They go wrong for the movie too. What had been a strong character piece, anchored by intriguing relationships between real, deep characters. I was thrilled watching these characters bounce off each other, with each actor bringing their own twist to classic archetypes I have known my whole life. No, the Reed Richards played by Miles Teller isn’t the pipe-chomping father figure from the original Marvel comics, but I see how this character can become that guy. Teller’s Reed isn’t some kind of STEM casualty, lost in a robotic world of science, and he isn’t a totally socially inept doofus. He’s a nice guy, slightly clueless, completely sweet, used to being smart as hell and totally misunderstood.
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As much of a letdown as the ending is, I like the actors here. I like this iteration of the characters. I like this world, one that has a foot in reality and a foot in the sort of gee-whiz scifi where whiz kids build and use a dimensional transporter. Yes, Fantastic Four faceplants, but there’s too much good in here to dismiss it completely. There’s too much quality, too much talent on display to hope that this iteration joins the rest on the trash heap of history. What the movie gets wrong is infuriating and disappointing, but what it gets right completely captures what I want a movie like this to be.
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I normally am not a fan of Faraci--his Marvel homerism gets on my nerves. I figured he would have hated this movie.
 
unholyrevenger72 said:
No the problem is creative freedom. Imagine if Ben was the main character and struggled in keeping his family together, while maintaining a soul sucking 9 to 5. Imagine Reed, Ben's Husband, a man of average intellect, a nagging husband telling the whole family that they can't use their powers in public. Which is extremely painful for son, Johnny who's a showboat, and daughter Sue who has self esteem and self image issues.
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Im going to make this movie

I shall call it 'The immensibles'

Yeah

Im gonna be rich
 
unholyrevenger72 said:
Where would you rank Kim Jong Un on a list of scariness compared to Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, and Pol Pot?
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Uhhh if you're a citizen of North Korea probably over all of them?

Dr. Doom is also way more North Korea than Stalinist Russia or Red China. He rules a tiny nation that's secluded from the world and prides themselves on their self-sufficiency. Latveria is way more Juche than it is Leninist :)
 
Ophelion said:
Evil Iron Man is probably too complicated for those Hollywood types. I'd just tell them to make him Darth Vader. Even if all the did was rip off classic Vader junk shot for shot, he'd have exponentially greater gravitas than he has in any film incarnation to date.
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Agreed, let's throw a green cape+hood on Vader and call him Doom. Start his scene like the beginning of ANH with a bit more grandeur and we got a better Doom.
 
Dalek said:
Considering the rumored bad blood between Marvel/Disney and Fox-I even see Fox not selling the rights out of spite.
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Nope. Now they'll wait another 7 years and throw out some new hot garbage. Unfortunate for the fans.

adamsappel said:
Why/how is Doom a metal man? Has he been fused with a spaceship or super-computer? Did his helmet melt down onto his face (that actually sounds kind of cool)?
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He gets thrown to this alien intelligent goo in planet zero and his environment suit gets melded on him. Doom's inside is actually glowing green, same like that goo.
 
unholyrevenger72 said:
A: Fair enough
B: LOL No, mass audiences won't buy that shit. It's one thing when the hero has a single gimmick, Ant-Man. It's another when Reed's IQ score reads - Deus Ex Machina
C: Your F4 isn't someone elses F4
D: Doom is not timeless, Doom is dated as fuck. Doom is a product of Post WW2 and the Cold war, an era of honest to goodness Evil Dictators. Julian McMahon's Evil CEO is as close to Evil Dictator Doom you will ever get
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Have you read about Doom before?
 
Curious to know does Fox need to make another movie starring FF to keep the license or can they...do cameo bits in the X movies?
 
If Marvel/Disney get the FF rights back, I can see Doom taking over ruined Sokovia and renaming it Latveria, and using the wreckage of the Ultron drones as Doombots.
 
richiek said:
If Marvel/Disney get the FF rights back, I can see Doom taking over ruined Sokovia and renaming it Latveria, and using the wreckage of the Ultron drones as Doombots.
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Was just thinking that the other day haha

Basically set himself up as a savior for the displaced Sokovians and give the Avengers a warning to never come to Latveria again.
 
ultracal31 said:
Curious to know does Fox need to make another movie starring FF to keep the license or can they...do cameo bits in the X movies?
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That's a good question-the rules around these contracts are so specific that I think unless this question has been directly answered by someone from Fox or Disney-no one knows for sure.
 
I'm reading the reviews now...sounds like the movie starts off well but ends up bad once they get their powers...that's odd, it should be better!!!
 
massoluk said:
Is Doom a man in an iron mask with a green cape and beloved genius dictator of a small country yet?
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I can't tell if you wrote this to make Doom sound ridiculous, but that's exactly what I want in a Doom portrayal. Be creative in why he wears a mask, how he is both a beloved dictator and a murderous villain. Explore his intelligence, jealousy and megalomania. Doom is a fascinating character.

Don't make him a blogger (or cry about 9/11, either).

richiek said:
If Marvel/Disney get the FF rights back, I can see Doom taking over ruined Sokovia and renaming it Latveria, and using the wreckage of the Ultron drones as Doombots.
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That works.
 
unholyrevenger72 said:
A: Fair enough
B: LOL No, mass audiences won't buy that shit. It's one thing when the hero has a single gimmick, Ant-Man. It's another when Reed's IQ score reads - Deus Ex Machina
C: Your F4 isn't someone elses F4
D: Doom is not timeless, Doom is dated as fuck. Doom is a product of Post WW2 and the Cold war, an era of honest to goodness Evil Dictators. Julian McMahon's Evil CEO is as close to Evil Dictator Doom you will ever get
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.....what the hell should the FF4 be then?
 
To be honest, I never really had any interest for this movie in the first place. Even when the trailer first hit the film still came off as very generic and looked nothing like the original comic. Even when I saw the trailer again prior to a showing of Ant-Man, I still had no idea it was the new Fantastic Four movie until halfway in; despite the Fox/Marvel logos at the beginning. As far as I'm concerned, the reviews aren't anything surprising.

E the Shaggy said:
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God I cannot stop laughing. Who on earth took a look and this and said "yep, this looks OK."? It's like the entire movie started out as a rejected script for another film entirely that was picked up and hastily reworked into what we're supposed to believe is a genuine Fantastic Four film adaptation; purely so Fox could continue sitting on the movie license.
 
Seriously, that Corman version isn't the worst, for what it is and when it came out. I thought y'all were joking about having the best Doom..y'all are right lol. Not really funny, actually..
 
GabeTheGrouch76 said:
To be honest, I never really had any interest for this movie in the first place. Even when the trailer first hit the film still came off as very generic and looked nothing like the original comic. Even when I saw the trailer again prior to a showing of Ant-Man, I still had no idea it was the new Fantastic Four movie until halfway in; despite the Fox/Marvel logos at the beginning. As far as I'm concerned, the reviews aren't anything surprising.



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God I cannot stop laughing. Who on earth took a look and this and said "yep, this looks OK."? It's like the entire movie started out as a rejected script for another film entirely that was picked up and hastily reworked into what we're supposed to believe is a genuine Fantastic Four film adaptation; purely so Fox could continue sitting on the movie license.
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If a gaffer had posted this image 5 months ago and leaked a scoop showing the final version of Doom and it was this picture, no one would have believed him.
 
richiek said:
If Marvel/Disney get the FF rights back, I can see Doom taking over ruined Sokovia and renaming it Latveria, and using the wreckage of the Ultron drones as Doombots.
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Seriously pair this with my idea of Richards looking into cosmic rays in the wake of Infinity War and this would make a great Phase 4
 
going by the repeated complaints about the second act, this movie must have been gutted in reshoots. Like taken out back and field dressed.
 
Y'know, I was kind of looking forward to this movie. I just want to see Fantastic 4 done properly. I think I'm going to dig up the Tim Story films and give them a rewatch to see if they're bad as I remember. Thanks, Josh Trank. You've driven me to this.
 
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