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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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rando14

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Ah don't sell yourself short, you have great numbers also! I'm 5'7" so I'm not entirely sure how well that transitions to genetic potential in terms of total numbers. Then again, Franco Columbu pulled some crazy numbers out I still can't believe he managed.

Gotta work harder, I guess!
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Ah don't sell yourself short, you have great numbers also! I'm 5'7" so I'm not entirely sure how well that transitions to genetic potential in terms of total numbers. Then again, Franco Columbu pulled some crazy numbers out I still can't believe he managed.

Gotta work harder, I guess!

Oh, I'm not selling myself short, I know I'm strong. I'm emphasizing how good your numbers/aspirations are.
 
FLM I quit training after seeing this 17 year old "kid" @ BBforum and sherdog

Here he is with two 6 foot+ 250+ pound MMA fighters

HHVSq.jpg

usZRR.jpg


Heres him deadlifting 600 pounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aDtLglGztY

fuckin freak.....unbelievable

wanted to bump for new page...17 years old....17...fml

another vid, 605 DL for 3 reps this time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adcDLE_qhHM&feature=related
 

deadbeef

Member
Eh, don't compare yourself to other dudes. It's always easy to find some guy stronger than you. Don't let it get you down.

I think I'm going to get away from the Boring but Big style assistance work I've been doing for so long. I think I'm going to drop to just some rest-pause style assistance work.
 

entremet

Member
Need some diet advice. This is my usual template.

Breakfast: 4 eggs and 4 slices of bacon

Lunch: Salad with tons of meat--around 7 oz.

Dinner: Half of pound of meat and some broccoli--around 2 cups.

I'm starving all the time, but my goals are weight loss. My build is similar to Shogun's, but nowhere near as strong. lol.

I've tried IF, but I was stalling so I reintroduced breakfast, but I'm ravenous.

These are my workouts. Tue, Thur, Sat. I also do a Crossfit style workout once a week.

A:
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
Chins 5 sets to failure

B:
DL 3x5
OHP 3x5
Dips 5 sets to failure

Should I eat more? I just want to shed more fat. I've made nice progress this year, but I definitely want to get more ripped this year. The hunger pangs worry me, though. I might be going way below maintainence. I'm 6 feet even 225lbs
 

rando14

Member
Need some diet advice. This is my usual template.

Breakfast: 4 eggs and 4 slices of bacon

Lunch: Salad with tons of meat--around 7 oz.

Dinner: Half of pound of meat and some broccoli--around 2 cups.

I'm starving all the time, but my goals are weight loss. My build is similar to Shogun's, but nowhere near as strong. lol.

I've tried IF, but I was stalling so I reintroduced breakfast, but I'm ravenous.

These are my workouts. Tue, Thur, Sat. I also do a Crossfit style workout once a week.

A:
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
Chins 5 sets to failure

B:
DL 3x5
OHP 3x5
Dips 5 sets to failure

Should I eat more? I just want to shed more fat. I've made nice progress this year, but I definitely want to get more ripped this year. The hunger pangs worry me, though. I might be going way below maintainence. I'm 6 feet even 225lbs

Introduce some more slow-digesting foods. Veggies, cottage cheese, foods with a lot of fiber, etc.

Is that seriously all you eat? 5 items? If you're doing a low-carb thing, try adding in more dairy and vegetables.
 

entremet

Member
Introduce some more slow-digesting foods. Veggies, cottage cheese, foods with a lot of fiber, etc.

Is that seriously all you eat? 5 items? If you're doing a low-carb thing, try adding in more dairy and vegetables.

That and tons of water.

I eat tons of veggies with the salad and dinner. Still not satiated. I can't do too much dairy, gives me the shits.
 

rando14

Member
How many carbs do you consume in a day? According to the diet you posted you're getting virtually none, which is probably not too great of an idea.

Have you considered intermittent fasting?
 
That and tons of water.

I eat tons of veggies with the salad and dinner. Still not satiated. I can't do too much dairy, gives me the shits.

To lose weight on low carbs you need to get more fat into your diet...you're doing a low carb low calorie combo which isn't really ideal.
 

snoopen

Member
I visited a gym in my home state for the 2nd time this week, so many curl bros and people plainly lifting wrong :(. I can't do much to help them, the gym is better than nothing but doesn't compare to my normal gym at all.. There's a room with a wooden floor dedicated to treadmills, about 6 per row x 4 rows, there was some very large dude jogging on one near the centre of the room and the whole floor/most machines were vibrating near the point of unusability.

I feel a bit crap for eating/drinking over the break but feel I deserve it for making some very solid gains over the last few months.. Bring on 2012!
 

entremet

Member
How many carbs do you consume in a day? According to the diet you posted you're getting virtually none, which is probably not too great of an idea.

Have you considered intermittent fasting?

Yep. I stalled with my weigh loss.



To lose weight on low carbs you need to get more fat into your diet...you're doing a low carb low calorie combo which isn't really ideal.

So more eggs and avocados?
 

ezrarh

Member
That and tons of water.

I eat tons of veggies with the salad and dinner. Still not satiated. I can't do too much dairy, gives me the shits.

If you can't do much dairy, try avocados. (edit: just missed your post - more avocados and nuts, although they are quite expensive nowadays!) They have a lot of good fats in them.

And happy holidays fitness gaf. This thread seems to be moving quite fast now that it's near new years. I'm on vacation at my parent's place and its day 7 without a gym. Starting to feel bad about not doing anything but this was suppose to be my extended rest. Been able to get 9+ hours of sleep. Haven't gotten that much fatter either since asian food isn't too fattening.
 

goldenpp72

Member
Ok i'm going to ask a few general questions before my next workout tomorrow. I officially drank one half gallon of water today and a half gallon of milk on top of 3 meals, and I feel stuffed as hell and think if I keep drinking i'll explode, lol. What is a good amount of water to aim for and does milk in any way compensation for water?

Also, anyone have a particular warm up they like to do? I find my groin area is a bit sore as well as my lower back, and not in a 'muscle' pain kind of way, I'm worried my ritual might be lacking the ideal warm up routine.

Sorry for all the questions but this is all bizarre, but i'm so full now.. heh.
 

Lamel

Banned
Ok i'm going to ask a few general questions before my next workout tomorrow. I officially drank one half gallon of water today and a half gallon of milk on top of 3 meals, and I feel stuffed as hell and think if I keep drinking i'll explode, lol. What is a good amount of water to aim for and does milk in any way compensation for water?

Also, anyone have a particular warm up they like to do? I find my groin area is a bit sore as well as my lower back, and not in a 'muscle' pain kind of way, I'm worried my ritual might be lacking the ideal warm up routine.

Sorry for all the questions but this is all bizarre, but i'm so full now.. heh.

A good rule for water, drink enough to piss 4-5 times a day. The piss should be clearish/bright yellow. This is a good way to look at it because the "8 glasses a day" is too arbitrary for people of different weights/heights. I think .5-.75 gallon should be enough water though (for non workout days at least).



As for warm up, make sure you stretch; hold the stretch for at least 10 seconds. Maybe do a light jog for 5 minutes to get the blood flowing.
 

rando14

Member
My favorite warmup consists of light movements that involve the whole body. Rowing is a great warmup, for example, I'll do that for about 5-10 minutes to get the blood pumping. Not a fan of static stretching, though.
 

goldenpp72

Member
Ok so milk doesn't count at all, but a half or over of a gallon should be sufficient for water? I find a piss a lot more than 5 times a day right now, lol.

My main issue for warm ups now is that whatever I do didn't' stop me from straining myself to have pain in unusual places, so if you're going to be doing squats, is there any way to keep yourself from straining the groin area, or lower back which is where I'm hurting a bit. I'm feeling good about this thread so far, lots of information, but I want to prevent injury if I can.
 

Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
Would it be bad to add 5 extra pounds to my Bench (or any other exercise, really) the next time I head into the gym even though I haven't exactly hit my target that tells me it's okay to add weight? My current Bench is:

165x5
155x6
145x7

Once it hits 6, 7, and 8 for reps, respectively, I add 5 pounds, but I was thinking that I should add 5 pounds anyway since I've been at that stage for a few weeks now and want to continue the progressive overload on my body for hypertrophy.
 

Mr.City

Member
Need some diet advice. This is my usual template.

Breakfast: 4 eggs and 4 slices of bacon

Lunch: Salad with tons of meat--around 7 oz.

Dinner: Half of pound of meat and some broccoli--around 2 cups.

I'm starving all the time, but my goals are weight loss. My build is similar to Shogun's, but nowhere near as strong. lol.

I've tried IF, but I was stalling so I reintroduced breakfast, but I'm ravenous.

These are my workouts. Tue, Thur, Sat. I also do a Crossfit style workout once a week.

A:
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
Chins 5 sets to failure

B:
DL 3x5
OHP 3x5
Dips 5 sets to failure

Should I eat more? I just want to shed more fat. I've made nice progress this year, but I definitely want to get more ripped this year. The hunger pangs worry me, though. I might be going way below maintainence. I'm 6 feet even 225lbs

It would help if you kept track of how much you were eating calorie-wise, so that when weight loss stalls occur, you can adapt the calories or macros. I could see why you feel hungry all the time. That's not a lot of food.

How long have you been dieting and what's your goal weight?


Domino Theory said:
Would it be bad to add 5 extra pounds to my Bench (or any other exercise, really) the next time I head into the gym even though I haven't exactly hit my target that tells me it's okay to add weight? My current Bench is:

165x5
155x6
145x7

Once it hits 6, 7, and 8 for reps, respectively, I add 5 pounds, but I was thinking that I should add 5 pounds anyway since I've been at that stage for a few weeks now and want to continue the progressive overload on my body for hypertrophy.

Given the weight of your bench press, you can chase PRs much more aggressively in the form of adding 5 lbs to 2.5 lbs to the bar each time you go to bench.
 

Mr.City

Member
Ok so milk doesn't count at all, but a half or over of a gallon should be sufficient for water? I find a piss a lot more than 5 times a day right now, lol.

My main issue for warm ups now is that whatever I do didn't' stop me from straining myself to have pain in unusual places, so if you're going to be doing squats, is there any way to keep yourself from straining the groin area, or lower back which is where I'm hurting a bit. I'm feeling good about this thread so far, lots of information, but I want to prevent injury if I can.

That milk not counting as water is insane. If you can drink it (sans alcohol) it will hydrate you.

As for stretching, http://www.mobilitywod.com/
 

Munin

Member
A good rule for water, drink enough to piss 4-5 times a day. The piss should be clearish/bright yellow. This is a good way to look at it because the "8 glasses a day" is too arbitrary for people of different weights/heights. I think .5-.75 gallon should be enough water though (for non workout days at least).

Milk does not make up for water...milk is not H2O, which is what your body and muscles need. So milk should not in any way replace water.

As for warm up, make sure you stretch; hold the stretch for at least 10 seconds. Maybe do a light jog for 5 minutes to get the blood flowing.

Of course milk has lots of water in it...when you take out the water from milk, that's when you get milk powder.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Eh, don't compare yourself to other dudes. It's always easy to find some guy stronger than you. Don't let it get you down.

I think I'm going to get away from the Boring but Big style assistance work I've been doing for so long. I think I'm going to drop to just some rest-pause style assistance work.

Mind explaining what you mean?

Milk does not make up for water...milk is not H2O, which is what your body and muscles need. So milk should not in any way replace water.



Wut?
 

rage1973

Member
Need some diet advice. This is my usual template.

Breakfast: 4 eggs and 4 slices of bacon

Lunch: Salad with tons of meat--around 7 oz.

Dinner: Half of pound of meat and some broccoli--around 2 cups.

I'm starving all the time, but my goals are weight loss. My build is similar to Shogun's, but nowhere near as strong. lol.

I've tried IF, but I was stalling so I reintroduced breakfast, but I'm ravenous.

These are my workouts. Tue, Thur, Sat. I also do a Crossfit style workout once a week.

A:
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
Chins 5 sets to failure

B:
DL 3x5
OHP 3x5
Dips 5 sets to failure

Should I eat more? I just want to shed more fat. I've made nice progress this year, but I definitely want to get more ripped this year. The hunger pangs worry me, though. I might be going way below maintainence. I'm 6 feet even 225lbs

I think you need to try leangains and calculate correct macro at your weight level.
I only weigh 170 lbs and I am eating much more than you. Also you need carbs on training days to restore glycogen after workouts and you should do low carbs on non training days.
Use this page to try to calculate your macros and try again.
http://rippedbody.jp/2011/10/23/how-to-calculate-leangains-macros/
 

Lamel

Banned
Of course milk has lots of water in it...when you take out the water from milk, that's when you get milk powder.

Mind explaining what you mean?





Wut?

What I MEANT to say was that water > milk when it comes to hydration; obviously pure water is better no?

But then I guess if I think about it, milk has a good amount of water in it too...I just think you shouldn't ever replace water. Maybe someone with more knowledge on how much hydration milk gives can explain this better.

However I always thought of milk as "food".

Edit: Just read that cow's milk is 87% water, so it does hydrate pretty well. Learn something new every day!
 

despire

Member
Just got the SS 3rd Edition in mail. Much better illustrations and such. Need to read this again, especially the Power Cleans -section since I decided to start doing the OP routine, and I haven't trained Power Cleans ever yet.
 

abuC

Member
How much do you guys pay monthly for your gym membership? I currently pay $59.99 for Nysc and would like to switch.
 

snoopen

Member
Just got the SS 3rd Edition in mail. Much better illustrations and such. Need to read this again, especially the Power Cleans -section since I decided to start doing the OP routine, and I haven't trained Power Cleans ever yet.

Mine has been stuck 'in transit' since 18th of dec :(. Stupid busy mail system.

I pay $20au per fortnight for my gym, it's the platinum corporate membership which is cheap and awesome.
 

X-Frame

Member
How much do you guys pay monthly for your gym membership? I currently pay $59.99 for Nysc and would like to switch.

I eventually want to build a home gym. I pay $102 a month for a huge fitness center with raquetball, basketball, swimming etc and only use the same few machines or racks.

In a year of paying for the gym I'd have a pretty decent home rack and all the other stuff I'd need.
 

entremet

Member
It would help if you kept track of how much you were eating calorie-wise, so that when weight loss stalls occur, you can adapt the calories or macros. I could see why you feel hungry all the time. That's not a lot of food.

How long have you been dieting and what's your goal weight?




Given the weight of your bench press, you can chase PRs much more aggressively in the form of adding 5 lbs to 2.5 lbs to the bar each time you go to bench.

From Fitday.


Calories
1,958

Fat
142.2

Carbs
58.4

Protein
115.8

Well, I've been doing the paleo for 1 year and lost a good amount of weigh, but I didn't weigh and measure, much. I just focused on improving my food quality.

Looks like I need more protein, though. Regarding goal weight, I'm around 190 lbs.
 

Mr.City

Member
From Fitday.


Calories
1,958

Fat
142.2

Carbs
58.4

Protein
115.8

Well, I've been doing the paleo for 1 year and lost a good amount of weigh, but I didn't weigh and measure, much. I just focused on improving my food quality.

Looks like I need more protein, though. Regarding goal weight, I'm around 190 lbs.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-fundamentals-of-fat-loss-diets-part-1.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-fundamentals-of-fat-loss-diets-part-2.html

Here's some good reads about dieting. Your protein will need to be higher, but you already know that.

As for your stalling, how long has it been since you last lost weight? I have a theory that you might be retaining water due to dieting fatigue/stress. Also, you said you wanted to "get more ripped." What's your body fat like?

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/not-losing-fat-at-20-deficit-what-should-i-do-qa.html

How has your performance been in the weight room?
 
Ordered Whey protein online and it dispatched 3 days ago and it was estimated 2-3 days delivery. Im still waiting and I ran out of my other whey protein last night. The delivery probably wont turn up till Monday now, im so fucked. Im gonna have to eat so much food to make up for it.
 
Any competition/large muscle mass guys here doing AM fasted cardio?

Thinking of doing 5/6 cardio sessions a week 3/4 being AM fasted for 30 mins and the other two just normal on my off days. Still worried about muscle loss no matter how much I read. I'm right at the beginning of competition preparation so getting all my info in first, and cardio seems the most debated
 

kylej

Banned
Ordered Whey protein online and it dispatched 3 days ago and it was estimated 2-3 days delivery. Im still waiting and I ran out of my other whey protein last night. The delivery probably wont turn up till Monday now, im so fucked. Im gonna have to eat so much food to make up for it.

I've never used whey and have built quite a bit of muscle. You'll be fine for a day or two.
 
Yup.

Chill, you'll be fine. Just eat a can of tuna.

I did about 20 minutes ago lol

The thing is I pushed myself very hard at chest today and did a higher weight for a couple of exercises that ive never done before. I feel like I need the shake more than ever
 

Enco

Member
I did about 20 minutes ago lol

The thing is I pushed myself very hard at chest today and did a higher weight for a couple of exercises that ive never done before. I feel like I need the shake more than ever

Haha yea I know that feeling. I like having a quick whey hake after a workout and it feels odd when you don't have one.

I've gone a while without a shake though and it makes no difference because I just have another protein filled food.
 
Today was my first time i failed my last rep benchpressing completely (which was weird because i was able to do the weight the past few workouts with no problems), got stuck beneath the barbell, and had to roll it off me. Quite uncomfortable. :lol

Did manage to up my squats by 5 pounds, so only 10 pounds away from being able to squat my own weight. Babbies first weightlifting achievement, haha.
 

balddemon

Banned
Today was my first time i failed my last rep benchpressing completely (which was weird because i was able to do the weight the past few workouts with no problems), got stuck beneath the barbell, and had to roll it off me. Quite uncomfortable. :lol

Did manage to up my squats by 5 pounds, so only 10 pounds away from being able to squat my own weight. Babbies first weightlifting achievement, haha.


Sleep More! That happens to me when I get shitty/less sleep than is needed aka not going to sleep until 2am onwards and getting up between 11-2. Terrible idea.
 

Enco

Member
Today was my first time i failed my last rep benchpressing completely (which was weird because i was able to do the weight the past few workouts with no problems), got stuck beneath the barbell, and had to roll it off me. Quite uncomfortable. :lol

Did manage to up my squats by 5 pounds, so only 10 pounds away from being able to squat my own weight. Babbies first weightlifting achievement, haha.

Ah.. The good old roll of shame :p

Luckily I haven't needed it as far as I can remember. I usually play it safe though so that's why.
 
It felt quite embarrassing yes. :p I can laugh about it though, it's just another learning experience. Although i might switch to dumbbells for a bit, at least you can let those drop on the floor instead of on your face or chest. :lol
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
How much do you guys pay monthly for your gym membership? I currently pay $59.99 for Nysc and would like to switch.

My golds is about 30 a month.

It felt quite embarrassing yes. :p I can laugh about it though, it's just another learning experience. Although i might switch to dumbbells for a bit, at least you can let those drop on the floor instead of on your face or chest. :lol

Everyone has been there before, no shame in it.

I think it's better to fail like that than not to. It shows you "went for it."
 

Mr.City

Member
I know but theres only so much tuna I can eat. Ive ran out of eggs today too D:

Ive got a couple of breast fillets I could make though.

Da fuck? Eat some food, man.

It felt quite embarrassing yes. :p I can laugh about it though, it's just another learning experience. Although i might switch to dumbbells for a bit, at least you can let those drop on the floor instead of on your face or chest. :lol

Do you workout at home? If not, you should get some spotters.
 

MjFrancis

Member
How much do you guys pay monthly for your gym membership? I currently pay $59.99 for Nysc and would like to switch.
I bought a Costco certificate for a two-year membership at 24-hour Fitness about seventeen months ago. It was $300, so divided by twenty-four that's $12.50/month.

I couldn't find a better deal, plus I didn't have to give up a credit card or bank account number.
 
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