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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Oh crap. I forgot that thread. Hah. Thanks!

...honestly, the booze is gonna be the hardest part. Gin and soda with lime for me.

I've been doing HIIT and that shit absolutely works but it's fucking BRUTAL.

I used to do 36 minutes of it on my cardio days. 30sec sprint at 9/10mph and 60sec walk at 3/4mph. By the time I would be done I was soaking wet and felt totally exhausted. I lost a lot of body fat in the process.

I have knee issues, so I've switched mines up. Know I do 3 cycles. 15minutes of HIIT, 15minute brisk walk @ 4mph, then another 15minutes of HIIT. I still burn a lot of calories, but it's less strain on my knees.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I bought a Costco certificate for a two-year membership at 24-hour Fitness about seventeen months ago. It was $300, so divided by twenty-four that's $12.50/month.

I couldn't find a better deal, plus I didn't have to give up a credit card or bank account number.

Have you tried those shrugs yet?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I'll try a few reps/sets this afternoon when I'm done with my regular routine. If anyone else is in the gym I'll report on their puzzled responses to this exercise.

I'm going to try them tomorrow with my shoulder routine assuming you come back and aren't crippled. ;)
 

TheFatOne

Member
On my way to work I noticed that they are opening a new gym. I'm super excited about it. I can finally join a real gym. The YMCA I go to is nice, but the only reason I went to it is because it was close to my house and the basketball court. Man going to a real gym for once is going to be sweet. It's close to my house, and since they are just opening it's going to be $10 a month so damn awesome.
 
Shit, I pay about $40 for the Y. I can go to my work gym for free but it's usually too crowded right after work and it's too far to drive to on weekends. It's ok though, since I go often enough to make it worth it.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
Home gym is the best investment if you have the room and means. I just moved into a new house with a double attached garage and I'm layering half the garage with 1/2" rubber cow stall mats, in the spring i'll put 3/4" plywood or OSB underneath. I plan on getting a power rack too so I can ditch the peg rack which has been good but not as versatile.
 

abuC

Member
Thanks for all the replies, I guess my best bet is to go to a local gym.

I bought a Costco certificate for a two-year membership at 24-hour Fitness about seventeen months ago. It was $300, so divided by twenty-four that's $12.50/month.

I couldn't find a better deal, plus I didn't have to give up a credit card or bank account number.


Whoa, thanks for that.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11663697

This seems tempting, the only problem is the closest 24 hour fitness to me is in the Bronx on Fordham road. It's not that far, just can't imagine finding parking anywhere that isn't the hood. I think I'll go by there today and see how things are.
 

Enco

Member
Home gym is the best investment if you have the room and means. I just moved into a new house with a double attached garage and I'm layering half the garage with 1/2" rubber cow stall mats, in the spring i'll put 3/4" plywood or OSB underneath. I plan on getting a power rack too so I can ditch the peg rack which has been good but not as versatile.

This. Home gyms are great if you have a bench, rack and pull up bar.

Racking weights sucks big time though.

Side note: I hate people who put light barbells in the bottom rack so you have to lift the heavy ones right to the top!
 

balddemon

Banned
That 24 hr thing seems like a good idea...and it's a lot cheaper than $33/month which is what they charge normally. Now I just need a job and $300

Ahhhhh, read the small print:

Membership certificates cannot be redeemed in Hawaii, Maryland, New York, New Jersey or Tennessee.

:(

Oh shit that blows man! Good thing I'm in Kansas..or is it?
 

abuC

Member
Ahhhhh, read the small print:

Membership certificates cannot be redeemed in Hawaii, Maryland, New York, New Jersey or Tennessee.

:(
 
Ahhhhh, read the small print:

Membership certificates cannot be redeemed in Hawaii, Maryland, New York, New Jersey or Tennessee.

:(
Oh haha, that's why I never heard of that deal.

A few of my friends have those pay $700 for 3 years and then lifetime is $30/year or some ridiculous shit like that. I was turned off by those types of deals and the sales pitch you get when you go as a guest, so I never really considered 24 vs the Y. Just tell me the rate, don't make me do math to figure out what the best deal over the next 10 years will be.
 

MjFrancis

Member
Sorry about not be able to take advantage of that deal, guys. It has made building a gym at home before my membership expires much more feasible. That rate is just so damn cheap I felt like I'd be an idiot to pass it up. To be fair, 24-hour Fitness probably guesses a good portion of these certificates are sold to people who show up for two months and never come back, giving them $300 for 4-8 visits.

Too bad for them I've shown up 3-5 times a week for over a year and used up a copious amount of their hot water and soap. Yeah, I'm a cheapskate and it's nice to have a cheap water bill at home.
 

lopaz

Banned
So turns out if your job is typing for 8 hours a day, you play guitar for 2 hours a day, and workout 3 times a week, your wrists are going to get fucked. AAAAH. Now I know what that little grip thing they packaged with my heavy bag was for
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
I stopped deadlifting a couple years ago and just recently started back. My 3rd week in and i got 315x5. That is what I squat right now. How much higher should your DL be than your squat?
 

MjFrancis

Member
If you use the 315lbs bench, 405lbs squat and 495lbs deadlift numbers (or 300/400/500) as a standard then 20% more seems like a safe bet.
 
I've been doing HIIT and that shit absolutely works but it's fucking BRUTAL.

I used to do 36 minutes of it on my cardio days. 30sec sprint at 9/10mph and 60sec walk at 3/4mph. By the time I would be done I was soaking wet and felt totally exhausted. I lost a lot of body fat in the process.

I have knee issues, so I've switched mines up. Know I do 3 cycles. 15minutes of HIIT, 15minute brisk walk @ 4mph, then another 15minutes of HIIT. I still burn a lot of calories, but it's less strain on my knees.

You are doing hiit for way to long. HIIT is about keeping your heart rate up, not what speed you go at. At most you should be doing maybe 20 minutes. You are probably slowing if not completely stopping muscle/strength gains.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Deadlifts after squat day are not a good idea. Fuck me, my lower back is killing me, lol.

This. Home gyms are great if you have a bench, rack and pull up bar.

Racking weights sucks big time though.

Side note: I hate people who put light barbells in the bottom rack so you have to lift the heavy ones right to the top!

You don't rack weights in your gym?

I don't know. I think I'd prefer to work out in a gym. I like other people being around to interact with, and motivation.

That 24 hr thing seems like a good idea...and it's a lot cheaper than $33/month which is what they charge normally. Now I just need a job and $300



Oh shit that blows man! Good thing I'm in Kansas..or is it?

It's never good to be in Kansas.


The entire state should just be a landing strip. I drove through on my way back to Illinois from Washington state. That highway is the longest flattest straightest road I've ever been on with the lowest fucking speed limit ever and the most cops I've ever seen at one time.
 
You are doing hiit for way to long. HIIT is about keeping your heart rate up, not what speed you go at. At most you should be doing maybe 20 minutes. You are probably slowing if not completely stopping muscle/strength gains.

I'm not doing HIIT to gain strength though, I'm doing it to lose fat. I was 235, now I'm down to 185. Mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned. I have 20-25 more pounds to go until I'm at the weight I think I should be at.

And I'm building muscle at the same. I do HIIT on Tues/Thurs, and do weights on MWF. So far it's been working great for me. I'm gaining strength pretty quickly and moving up in weight on a regular basis. Everything's been going up, leg presses, bench, shoulder presses, and barbell curls.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I'm not doing HIIT to gain strength though, I'm doing it to lose fat. I was 235, now I'm down to 185. Mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned. I have 20-25 more pounds to go until I'm at the weight I think I should be at.

And I'm building muscle at the same. I do HIIT on Tues/Thurs, and do weights on MWF. So far it's been working great for me. I'm gaining strength pretty quickly and moving up in weight on a regular basis. Everything's been going up, leg presses, bench, shoulder presses, and barbell curls.

Legpresses?

In the words of the glorious based rippetoe.

"You could legpress, but that's gay"
 

MjFrancis

Member
Deadlifts after squat day are not a good idea. Fuck me, my lower back is killing me, lol.
Deadlifts are always hard to place because recovery is such a bitch. I deadlift after my squat day but with a day of rest in between, and even then that can feel limiting sometimes. It's almost like you have to deadlift at the very end of a squat training day or put it as far away from squats as your training schedule allows.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Deadlifts are always hard to place because recovery is such a bitch. I deadlift after my squat day but with a day of rest in between, and even then that can feel limiting sometimes. It's almost like you have to deadlift at the very end of a squat training day or put it as far away from squats as your training schedule allows.

Well, the other idiot thing I did was my second bench session before my deadlifts when deadlifts is the first thing I should have done today.

I literally did squats yesterday and did deadlifts today, no rest. Only did that because I took monday off.

I think I'm going to take a look at my routine and think about shifting some shit around.
 
Fuck. I can't do a muscle up anymore. I was able to do one awhile back.

What are some tips when practicing? I know you should practice by trying to bring your chest up above the bar, which I can do...
 

MjFrancis

Member
Unless you can front squat with beautiful form, I would pass on the front-squat shrug. I don't front squat often, so my wrist flexibility is just passable and my ROM is like half an inch.

Plus my beard gets in the way. That's an instant deal-breaker for me.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Unless you can front squat with beautiful form, I would pass on the front-squat shrug. I don't front squat often, so my wrist flexibility is just passable and my ROM is like half an inch.

Plus my beard gets in the way. That's an instant deal-breaker for me.

lol

I've never front squatted before, so that's a deal breaker for me.


Would be funny to see the barbell lost in your logger beard, haha.

Thanks for the heads up bud.
 
I like the front squat. Once my back is feeling better I will give this a try and report back. Might be a few weeks though; back is still in pain.
 

IceCold

Member
Unless you can front squat with beautiful form, I would pass on the front-squat shrug. I don't front squat often, so my wrist flexibility is just passable and my ROM is like half an inch.

Plus my beard gets in the way. That's an instant deal-breaker for me.

You can't keep talking about your beard without posting a pic dude.

Right now I imagine you like this man that I used to see at the gym when I went in the morning. He's a super ripped 50+ year old guy, with long hair and a massive beard. He would do pull ups like it was nothing. I'm pretty sure he's part of some biker gang (there's a lot of that at the gym I go to).

Most badass dude ever.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Fuck. I can't do a muscle up anymore. I was able to do one awhile back.

What are some tips when practicing? I know you should practice by trying to bring your chest up above the bar, which I can do...
Keep trying 3 or 4 times a week and do a lot of pull ups, weighted and unweighted.
 

kylej

Banned
who was the dude asking for pics? I took this for SA but i'll crosspost here I guess

I never took shirtless pics when I was skinny-fat (embarrassed) so I can't compare that way, but if you compare my arm and shoulders and fit of my shirt you can see I've put on a decent amount of muscle

before I started lifting.

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shirt looks like a carpet wrapped around me. sweet twig arms.

after 7 1/2 months of lifting (yes, I know I look like a retard with the iPad it's my only camera) I don't know what's with the facial pose either but fuck it this is a video game forum

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getting there slowly but surely. for the New Years people jumping into the gym hopefully this helps show that you can go from having the arms and upper body of a terminally ill patient to a decent amount of muscle in not a very long time... if you're consistent and push yourself. next step is to get big as fuck by this time next year :)
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
who was the dude asking for pics? I took this for SA but i'll crosspost here I guess

I never took shirtless pics when I was skinny-fat (embarrassed) so I can't compare that way, but if you compare my arm and shoulders and fit of my shirt you can see I've put on a decent amount of muscle

before I started lifting.

nhZhZ.jpg


shirt looks like a carpet wrapped around me. sweet twig arms.

after 7 1/2 months of lifting (yes, I know I look like a retard with the iPad it's my only camera) I don't know what's with the facial pose either but fuck it this is a video game forum

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getting there slowly but surely. for the New Years people jumping into the gym hopefully this helps show that you can go from having the arms and upper body of a terminally ill patient to a decent amount of muscle in not a very long time... if you're consistent and push yourself. next step is to get big as fuck by this time next year :)

Ipad picture had me rolling.

Looking good man.
 

kylej

Banned
I was going to say I could pick up and bench most of HaloGAF but most of them are probably the equivalent of a 4 plate lift
 

deadbeef

Member
Mind explaining what you mean?

There are different assistance templates recommended with 5/3/1. The one I've been using because it's simple and I don't have to think is called Boring but Big. Basically you follow up the big exercise of the day, e.g. squats, with 5 sets of 10 at approximately 50% of your 1rm. I'm going to change that to just 1 set of rest-pause squats at like 80% of my 1rm. So today I did my 3 sets of 3 squats and then did a set of 345, where I did a rep, breathed a bit, did a rep, breathed a bit, etc etc. Ended up doing 10 reps. So I'm going to just do that kind of thing for squats and deadlifts for awhile and see how it goes.
 
Well I just got in a good last workout of the year. After a month and a half on StrongLifts, I dead lifted my own body weight for the first time ever and set myself in a position to squat for body weight at the end of next week. Looking forward to making that 2x body weight in 2012.

I also think it's time to switch to increasing the weight on the overhead press 2.5 pounds per lift instead of 5 pounds. I keep stalling every other workout but succeeding on the second try.

Good luck to everyone in 2012.
 

Trey

Member
Probably the noobiest of noob questions--and it's best to face the music now at the genesis of my serious training--but is the weight of the bar is added into the sum of your lift? So a lift with a 45 pound bar and 100 lbs on either side would be a 245 lift, correct?
 

deadbeef

Member
Probably the noobiest of noob questions--and it's best to face the music now at the genesis of my serious training--but is the weight of the bar is added into the sum of your lift? So a lift with a 45 pound bar and 100 lbs on either side would be a 245 lift, correct?

Yes that's correct
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Probably the noobiest of noob questions--and it's best to face the music now at the genesis of my serious training--but is the weight of the bar is added into the sum of your lift? So a lift with a 45 pound bar and 100 lbs on either side would be a 245 lift, correct?

Yes sir.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Yeah make fun of overweight people, none of them venture into this thread anyhow.

lol x 2.

You've obviously never played Halo (or any other game) with Kyle.

Shit, I'm overweight and his "schtick" is hilarious.

There are different assistance templates recommended with 5/3/1. The one I've been using because it's simple and I don't have to think is called Boring but Big. Basically you follow up the big exercise of the day, e.g. squats, with 5 sets of 10 at approximately 50% of your 1rm. I'm going to change that to just 1 set of rest-pause squats at like 80% of my 1rm. So today I did my 3 sets of 3 squats and then did a set of 345, where I did a rep, breathed a bit, did a rep, breathed a bit, etc etc. Ended up doing 10 reps. So I'm going to just do that kind of thing for squats and deadlifts for awhile and see how it goes.


That kind of blows my mind. I simply do assistance work without really thinking about it. I just do what I can do (ensuring the different "parts are hit" for 5-8 reps and I'm done with it. I do a crapload of assistance work, a bit too much actually and have begun scaling back, especially with the heavier loads I'm taking on.

Thanks for enlightening me, I'll have to look more into that.
 
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