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¨The caffeine, oils and acids in coffee irritate the stomach lining, which can cause excessive production of hydrochloric acid leading to a variety of digestive ailments. Decaf, which contains the same oils and acids as regular coffee as well as traces of methylene chloride, brings on the same increase in stomach acid.


¨ Drinking coffee on an empty stomach produces an even greater increase in stomach acid, and can cause stomach pain almost immediately in some people.


¨ Research has shown a definite link between coffee drinking and ulcers. One study of 25,000 men showed that those who drink coffee have about a 72 percent higher risk of developing ulcers than those who don't.


¨ Coffee affects the lower esophageal sphincter which controls the opening between the stomach and the throat. When there is a change in the pressure of this esophageal sphincter, a reflux of stomach acid comes up into the throat causing “heartburn.” Some people already have an abnormality in this sphincter which coffee exacerbates.


¨ Coffee tends to slow down the passage of waste through the small intestine and speed it up in the large intestine."
 

MjFrancis

Member
"Bad" is pretty vague, inso as it doesn't tell us what the problem with coffee on an empty stomach is supposed to incur.

I've heard it before, too, but it's like how eggs are supposed to be "bad" for everyone when the problemd may actually be quite specific to select individuals with sensitivity to dietary cholesterol. Since people don't recall why a food or activity brings out negative connotations they simply deem it "bad" and move forward.

I guess you've added a few factoids on coffee, but they're not cited by research nor specific to intake on an empty stomach, save for the one on stomach acid production.

Now we're left wondering how much acid in the stomach is "bad" or what, if anything, should be done to combat it.
 

Combine

Banned
If you did your best, you did your best, and no one can take that away from you. On the flip side, that doesn't mean we can't comment on your progress (or there of.) Like you were really happy that you increased your back squat by 10 lbs over a year, then that's yours. However, regardless of that, I would think that's pretty slow and crappy progress. The real issue is why my/ the thread's opinion means so much to you?
It doesn't. Why do you think I've not been bothered to post here? I've been very satisfied with how things have been going with personal training. But I know now that's not what most people here want to hear. They want numbers and such and I honestly don't give a damn about those. I don't want to subject myself to constant thoughts trying to get me to second guess the things I've done or downplaying them trying to make me feel insignificant or worthless. I'm done with all that.
 

rando14

Member
I'm sorry it didn't work out for you here, Combine. Good luck with your future endeavors in the gym, make us proud!


It also occurs to me that within a few days we should expect some new years joining members. :)
 
"Bad" is pretty vague, inso as it doesn't tell us what the problem with coffee on an empty stomach is supposed to incur.

I've heard it before, too, but it's like how eggs are supposed to be "bad" for everyone when the problemd may actually be quite specific to select individuals with sensitivity to dietary cholesterol. Since people don't recall why a food or activity brings out negative connotations they simply deem it "bad" and move forward.

I guess you've added a few factoids on coffee, but they're not cited by research nor specific to intake on an empty stomach, save for the one on stomach acid production.

Now we're left wondering how much acid in the stomach is "bad" or what, if anything, should be done to combat it.

Well I think the point is if you already have any preexisting stomach problems or conditions, like ulcers, heartburn, etc, the last thing you want to do is fast AND drink coffee...
 

Lamel

Banned
Ok so it turns out, once I eat my dinner later tonight, I will have managed to consume 2500 calories.

Here is what I have (and will) eat for today:

Breakfast
1 cup of yogurt
Banana
Oat Meal with molasses

Lunch
350g of scallops
Avocado
Three slices of bacon (natural bacon, no nitrite, I recommend it)
Two carrots

Dinner
Large salmon fillet
Feta cheese
Olive oil (around two tablespoons)
Cucumber (pretty much 0 calories in there though)

That gives me 2500 calories.

I definitely need to find some place that sells nuts for cheap, that will help round things out here and there, especially if I eat at work where my choices are limited.

Any other food recommendations I should consider? Remember: no gluten (no cereals), no eggs, limited dairy consumption (no milk).


Alright, sorry for not responding faster.

You do 60 one legged squats?! That's damn impressive, but it won't really get you big. Remember the "pain and burn" is not a good judge of whether you got a lot out of the exercise.

You should look up the beginner routines in the OP and start those. Generally you do a weight in which you can only do around 5-8 reps and then you can't (basically, your muscles fail). Once again, try this routine in the OP. If you stick to this for a good 9-12 months, you will see a huge change.

Monday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5
Deadlifts - 1 set of 5
Pull-Ups - 3 sets of 8-15

Wednesday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Overhead Press - 3 sets of 5
Power Cleans - 5 sets of 3
Abdominal work

Friday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5
Deadlift - 1 set of 5
Bent Over Rows - 3 set of 5
Arm work, if desired

This will be very good for you. Just make sure you have the proper form for these exercises as that is VERY important; so start with lower weights at first. So watch some vids from Rippetoe on youtube (he is the creator of starting strength).


And as for the eating issue, you HAVE to eat a lot. When I started I was your weight (128 lbs at 5'10") so it seemed nearly impossible to eat 2500-3000 calories a day. But trust me, when you do the above exercises, your muscles will be STARVING. And as you build muscle, you will be hungrier and it will be easier to eat from there. Fish is good for you, but it is pretty low in calories so maybe you should get some steak, chicken etc...Get peanut butter as well. You just have to stuff yourself like a monster; if you don't then there is not point in working out like this (you need the muscle you build to come from somewhere right? it's gonna be all that food!). Also drink tons of water, enough to have 4-5 good/clearish pisses a day.

Keep in mind, you need a lot of calories to gain mass. Also keep in mind that you need 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. So you will need approximately 130+ grams a day.

I know this is a lot to digest in such a short time, so if you have any questions ask away! But in basic terms: Eat a lot, do the workout I listed, rest well and get big.

Edit: As for your diet. In between breakfast and lunch, add a snack (nuts, peanut butter sandwich). Likewise do the same for in between lunch and dinner. Also have a snack before you sleep. To get enough protein, invest in some good whey protein (that should really be the only "supplement" you take). EAS has good whey protein to make shakes.
 

Dartastic

Member
I need to lose weight when the new year starts. Bad. I know there are many ways to do it, but I was thinking about just decreasing my eating/drinking for a couple weeks and eating more veggies and lean protein as opposed to the stuff I normally eat. If I'm not quite satisfied with that, I think I'm going to try the master cleanse for two weeks. Yeah. Does that sound decent to you guys?
 

Carbonox

Member
Alright, sorry for not responding faster.

You do 60 one legged squats?! That's damn impressive, but it won't really get you big.

You should look up the beginner routines in the OP and start those. Generally you do a weight in which you can only do around 5-8 reps and then you can't (basically, your muscles fail). Once again, try this routine in the OP.

Monday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5
Deadlifts - 1 set of 5
Pull-Ups - 3 sets of 8-15

Wednesday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Overhead Press - 3 sets of 5
Power Cleans - 5 sets of 3
Abdominal work

Friday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5
Deadlift - 1 set of 5
Bent Over Rows - 3 set of 5
Arm work, if desired

This will be very good for you.


And as for the eating issue, you HAVE to eat a lot. When I started I was your weight (128 lbs at 5'10") so it seemed nearly impossible to eat 2500-3000 calories a day. But trust me, when you do the above exercises, your muscles will be STARVING. And as you build muscle, you will be hungrier and it will be easier to eat from there. Fish is good for you, but it is pretty low in calories so maybe you should get some steak, chicken etc...Get peanut butter as well.

Keep in mind, you need a lot of calories to gain mass. Also keep in mind that you need 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. So you will need approximately 130+ grams.

I know this is a lot to digest in such a short time, so if you have any questions ask away!

Such a short, sharp and to the point post tells a massive story for beginners looking in to bulking. The OP goes in to detail.

I just wish someone would take the time to make a similar short yet descriptive diet plan. We have a milk diet in the OP but some example diets for beginners looking to bulk would be the icing on the cake. I don't mean just food ideas but actual morning, lunch, dinner, in-betweens, etc. If someone wanted to go the extra mile, maybe nutritional values, etc.

Would actually help me and get me to work on my diet plan, plus will help many others. Eating is the biggest hurdle IMO, especially when trying to find the right stuff.

I dunno, some examples from people might have been mentioned in this topic before.
 

abuC

Member
I haven't posted a pic so here's the latest pic I have, Im 6"1 250-252lbs. I'll try and find some pics from last year, I was around 268lbs, and since lifting I've lost 16lbs while maintaining around a 4500 calorie diet with sporadic cardio.

http://i.imgur.com/YgTsU.jpg

Side pic because I saw other people doing it too. Im hoping to get down to around 220lbs by May-June with as little muscle loss as possible.
 

Lamel

Banned
I need to lose weight when the new year starts. Bad. I know there are many ways to do it, but I was thinking about just decreasing my eating/drinking for a couple weeks and eating more veggies and lean protein as opposed to the stuff I normally eat. If I'm not quite satisfied with that, I think I'm going to try the master cleanse for two weeks. Yeah. Does that sound decent to you guys?

If you really want to lose weight, then I think the weight loss thread is better.

But quick advice; up the protein and good fats, lower the carbs (<100g a day). Remember to cut out junk food, sugary crap and soda; only drink water and/or tea/coffee.

Do HIIT. Also lift weights so you don't lose muscle. That's the basics of it.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
It's weird at first, and there are times during the day where you will feel like you're lacking energy but you get over it quick. My waist is getting smaller and smaller, while I have only dropped 2lbs most people who see me say it's a noticeable difference, and most importantly all my lifts are either the same or going up.

I'd be too worried about losing my lifts and not making gains. I don't wanna get shredded, I just want to be able to go out without my shirt on, and to be honest, if I really do it "right" that should be perfectly doable in the time allotted and simply cutting out the bullshit.

I haven't posted a pic so here's the latest pic I have, Im 6"1 250-252lbs. I'll try and find some pics from last year, I was around 268lbs, and since lifting I've lost 16lbs while maintaining around a 4500 calorie diet with sporadic cardio.

http://i.imgur.com/YgTsU.jpg

Side pic because I saw other people doing it too. Im hoping to get down to around 220lbs by May-June with as little muscle loss as possible.

You look like a guy who goes to my golds gym.

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you here, Combine. Good luck with your future endeavors in the gym, make us proud!


It also occurs to me that within a few days we should expect some new years joining members. :)

They are already beginning here for me.

So many women, so much spandex. PRAISE BASED RIPPETOE!
 

Lamel

Banned
Such a short, sharp and to the point post tells a massive story for beginners looking in to bulking. The OP goes in to detail.

I just wish someone would take the time to make a similar short yet descriptive diet plan. We have a milk diet in the OP but some example diets for beginners looking to bulk would be the icing on the cake. I don't mean just food ideas but actual morning, lunch, dinner, in-betweens, etc. If someone wanted to go the extra mile, maybe nutritional values, etc.

Would actually help me and get me to work on my diet plan, plus will help many others. Eating is the biggest hurdle IMO, especially when trying to find the right stuff.

I dunno, some examples from people might have been mentioned in this topic before.


Usually when it comes to diet plans, everyone has their limitations and are different. Some people can't afford things, some people can't digest some foods and/or are allergic etc...so it's difficult to create a "universal" diet.

But the structure can be pretty basic.

1.Breakfast
2.Snack
3.Lunch
4.Snack
5.Dinner
6.Snack

You can add brunch in there if you want.

Breakfast should have a good amount of protein and calories; think eggs, bacon, sausage etc...

Lunch should also have a decent amount of calories and protein; chicken, some rice, fish, salad, green veggies etc...

Dinner should be large and once again have a good amount of calories; if your dinner is after your workout, make sure you have a good amount of carbs as well, and I don't mean sugar...I mean complex carbs like veggies, brown rice etc...


The snacks are generally up to your choosing. Nuts are very good, fruits (such as berries), yogurt, oatmeal, tuna, milk, protein shake. All up to you.

It kind of feels like you'll be eating all day, but if you're active you should be able to do it!
 

abuC

Member
I'd be to worried about losing my lifts and not making gains. I don't wanna get shredded, I just want to be able to go out without my shirt on, and to be honest, if I really do it "right" that should be perfectly doable in the time allotted and simply cutting out the bullshit.



You look like a guy who goes to my golds gym.



They are already beginning here for me.

So many women, so much spandex. PRAISE BASED RIPPETOE!




I don't think I'd be able to maintain a cut diet to be honest, and luckily my strength hasn't dropped (yet) from fasting. The fast works for me because I can still eat some garbage here and there lol.

Ha, the perks of being racially ambiguous is that there's always someone out there that looks like me that can take the blame.
 

Ether_Snake

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Alright, sorry for not responding faster:

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Thanks for the info. I'll note down the workouts.

For the one-legged squats, it's two times 30 for each leg, no way I could do 60 in one shot, and I have to rest my hand on something to hold balance, but it's fairly easy otherwise. I make sure my hand is not supporting my weight.

For the food, my main problem is I'm trying to keep my acne under control. The gluten-free diet does that, but I'm not doing it specifically for that, I just have a moderate gluten intolerance but I can't mess around with this or my intestines will basically disintegrate over the years if I consume gluten anyway. Peanut butter for example is something else I had to cut out as it was rather inflammatory for me.

So on one end I'm gluten-intolerant, and on the other I'm staying away from foods that can trigger acne (too much dairy, sugar, beer, wheat). This is what makes it difficult to reach my target. But whatever, I'll manage. I eat a lot of natural stuff anyway and never consume junk food, so I can munch on nuts like chips. It's just a question of working out more, which should increase my hunger, and follow with bigger portions. Getting into the habit and all.
 

Carbonox

Member
Usually when it comes to diet plans, everyone has their limitations and are different. Some people can't afford things, some people can't digest some foods and/or are allergic etc...so it's difficult to create a "universal" diet.

But the structure can be pretty basic.

1.Breakfast
2.Snack
3.Lunch
4.Snack
5.Dinner
6.Snack

You can add brunch in there if you want.

Breakfast should have a good amount of protein and calories; think eggs, bacon, sausage etc...

Lunch should also have a decent amount of calories and protein; chicken, some rice, fish, salad, green veggies etc...

Dinner should be large and once again have a good amount of calories; if your dinner is after your workout, make sure you have a good amount of carbs as well, and I don't mean sugar...I mean complex carbs like veggies, brown rice etc...


The snacks are generally up to your choosing. Nuts are very good, fruits (such as berries), yogurt, oatmeal, tuna, milk, protein shake. All up to you.

It kind of feels like you'll be eating all day, but if you're active you should be able to do it!

True say.

What about cheap and cheerful meal ideas? For example, many - myself including - like to have a simple chicken/veg/potatoes dinner, as it's very effective.

What other different meals would be recommended?

Also, I guess the most difficult part is ensuring each meal has the right nutrition ratio. Otherwise you're pretty much buggered from the get-go.

I'm also working on a very specific plan for myself to utilise. It can be such a bitch, especially researching in to each food type's values, then combining with suitable foods, etc.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I don't think I'd be able to maintain a cut diet to be honest, and luckily my strength hasn't dropped (yet) from fasting. The fast works for me because I can still eat some garbage here and there lol.

Ha, the perks of being racially ambiguous is that there's always someone out there that looks like me that can take the blame.

Lol, that's not what I fucking meant!

He has the same haircut goatee and build. In fact I had a discussion with him about competitive lifting a month or so ago, but he's not 6 foot though, he's my height (5 foot 8).

Looking good btw.

Mine isn't going to be a cut diet. I'm simply going to remove the soda, beefaroni (seriously), and other bullshit. There will be 1 day for a "bad" meal (saturdays), the rest will be rice, green vegetables, and some form of animal protein, with lots of milk, whey, and yogurt.
 

Lamel

Banned
Thanks for the info. I'll note down the workouts.

For the one-legged squats, it's two times 30 for each leg, no way I could do 60 in one shot, and I have to rest my hand on something to hold balance, but it's fairly easy otherwise. I make sure my hand is not supporting my weight.

For the food, my main problem is I'm trying to keep my acne under control. The gluten-free diet does that, but I'm not doing it specifically for that, I just have a moderate gluten intolerance but I can't mess around with this or my intestines will basically disintegrate over the years if I consume gluten anyway. Peanut butter for example is something else I had to cut out as it was rather inflammatory for me.

So on one end I'm gluten-intolerant, and on the other I'm staying away from foods that can trigger acne (too much dairy, sugar, beer, wheat). This is what makes it difficult to reach my target. But whatever, I'll manage. I eat a lot of natural stuff anyway and never consume junk food, so I can munch on nuts like chips. It's just a question of working out more, which should increase my hunger, and follow with bigger portions. Getting into the habit and all.

I avoid dairy and milk because of the acne problem too (since I'm only 18 it's mostly hormonal, but dairy makes it worse), it is sort of annoying but there are tons of foods you can eat instead of what I listed. It's good you stay away from sugar. Remember that meat doesn't effect acne, so your protein intake should be fine. Plus when you see your body becoming ripped, acne won't even matter that much (dead serious about that). If I am able to do it than you can definitely do it too man!

You should get walnuts, the omega 3 fatty acids are anti inflammatory and very good for you.

And now I have a question for you, does gluten free really keep acne at bay? And what exactly is "gluten free"?

Edit: Btw 30 reps of one legged squats is amazing, that means you have a good base to work with all those workouts. I can barely do 10 one legged per set. Just make sure your form is right, so practice that in the first week or so. Even if you THINK you're doing it right, keep checking your form.
 

Mr.City

Member
You guys that are "doing a cut" should look into RFL. It's a pretty intense diet that works fast with minimal muscle loss. I went down from 285 to 249 in about 3 months, and I'm looking to lose around 13 lbs during this next 6 week cycle.
 

Lamel

Banned
True say.

What about cheap and cheerful meal ideas? For example, many - myself including - like to have a simple chicken/veg/potatoes dinner, as it's very effective.

What other different meals would be recommended?

Also, I guess the most difficult part is ensuring each meal has the right nutrition ratio. Otherwise you're pretty much buggered from the get-go.

I'm also working on a very specific plan for myself to utilise. It can be such a bitch, especially researching in to each food type's values, then combining with suitable foods, etc.


Some good meal ideas...

Chicken breast with brown rice, carrots/broccoli and/or cheese etc...
Steak/lamb with potatoes/mushrooms/asparagus/broccoli/onions/peppers etc...
Shrimp/Fish with asparagus/salad

As you can see, it's all pretty simple.


You shouldn't worry about the macromolecule nutritional breakdown too much honestly. The only time you should worry about that is post workout in which it is best to have a 3:1 carb to protein ratio in the post workout meal.
 

rage1973

Member
Isn't it really bad for your stomach to have coffee especially when you haven't eaten for that long?

Coffee has no effect on my stomache as far as I can tell and helps me quell my hunger.
It also gives me a nice energy boost in the morning. Coffee has also been shown as one of the best antioxidants in people's diet.
 

abuC

Member
Lol, that's not what I fucking meant!

He has the same haircut goatee and build. In fact I had a discussion with him about competitive lifting a month or so ago, but he's not 6 foot though, he's my height (5 foot 8).

Looking good btw.

Mine isn't going to be a cut diet. I'm simply going to remove the soda, beefaroni (seriously), and other bullshit. There will be 1 day for a "bad" meal (saturdays), the rest will be rice, green vegetables, and some form of animal protein, with lots of milk, whey, and yogurt.




hahaha, thanks.


I replaced soda with flavored seltzer a while ago, I have one with pretty much every meal, no calories and still a decent flavor. In the first month without soda I lost around 5lbs, and it was the only real change to my diet at the time.
 

Ether_Snake

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I avoid dairy and milk because of the acne problem too (since I'm only 18 it's mostly hormonal, but dairy makes it worse), it is sort of annoying but there are tons of foods you can eat instead of what I listed. It's good you stay away from sugar. Remember that meat doesn't effect acne, so your protein intake should be fine. Plus when you see your body becoming ripped, acne won't even matter that much (dead serious about that). If I am able to do it than you can definitely do it too man!

You should get walnuts, the omega 3 fatty acids are anti inflammatory and very good for you.

And now I have a question for you, does gluten free really keep acne at bay? And what exactly is "gluten free"?

I never cleared up as much as since I went gluten free. Took no more than two weeks to go from a messy face to completely clear. Since then, because of the holidays, I had to "cheat" since I was eating at other people's places, and my chin broke out. Also, since going gluten-free I no longer have stomach cramps, no longer feel bloated, etc.

Gluten free means no wheat, no cereals, no bread, no pasta. Almost EVERYTHING that is "premade" in store has gluten. Pizza, soy sauce, ketchup, etc. it's everywhere. Lots of products exist that are labeled gluten-free, so you can find almost anything as gluten-free, like bread/pasta/etc. but it's usually expensive and only in specialty/health stores. Some people are more intolerant than others, some will get outright sick from being merely in the presence of gluten-containing foods. In my case it's mostly cramps/digestive issues. So I didn't go for this to clear my acne, it was just a positive side-effect. Acne.org has a lot of reports of people saying they cleared after going gluten-free.

Basically, it's a pain in the ass for a lot of people to follow this diet, and I can't keep it 100% at bay unless I cook everything I eat myself.
 

Lamel

Banned
I never cleared up as much as since I went gluten free. Took no more than two weeks to go from a messy face to completely clear. Since then, because of the holidays, I had to "cheat" since I was eating at other people's places, and my chin broke out. Also, since going gluten-free I no longer have stomach cramps, no longer feel bloated, etc.

Gluten free means no wheat, no cereals, no bread, no pasta. Almost EVERYTHING that is "premade" in store has gluten. Pizza, soy sauce, ketchup, etc. it's everywhere. Lots of products exist that are labeled gluten-free, so you can find almost anything as gluten-free, like bread/pasta/etc. but it's usually expensive and only in specialty/health stores. Some people are more intolerant than others, some will get outright sick from being merely in the presence of gluten-containing foods. In my case it's mostly cramps/digestive issues. So I didn't go for this to clear my acne, it was just a positive side-effect. Acne.org has a lot of reports of people saying they cleared after going gluten-free.

Basically, it's a pain in the ass for a lot of people to follow this diet, and I can't keep it 100% at bay unless I cook everything I eat myself.

Ah that sucks, that's pretty unfeasible for me since I don't live on my own yet. Oh well, I will just deal with the 3-4 pimples I get. My chin is actually my worst area for some reason.

Anyway, I hope I've given you enough information to start your exercising. If you have any more questions, post or PM. Good luck.
 

JB1981

Member
Ok so it turns out, once I eat my dinner later tonight, I will have managed to consume 2500 calories.

Here is what I have (and will) eat for today:

Breakfast
1 cup of yogurt
Banana
Oat Meal with molasses

Lunch
350g of scallops
Avocado
Three slices of bacon (natural bacon, no nitrite, I recommend it)
Two carrots

Dinner
Large salmon fillet
Feta cheese
Olive oil (around two tablespoons)
Cucumber (pretty much 0 calories in there though)

That gives me 2500 calories.

I definitely need to find some place that sells nuts for cheap, that will help round things out here and there, especially if I eat at work where my choices are limited.

Any other food recommendations I should consider? Remember: no gluten (no cereals), no eggs, limited dairy consumption (no milk).

Not sure what your weight goals are but if they are to gain weight or muscle ... you are eating like the owner of a health food store, not a lifter.
 

Dartastic

Member
If you really want to lose weight, then I think the weight loss thread is better.

But quick advice; up the protein and good fats, lower the carbs (<100g a day). Remember to cut out junk food, sugary crap and soda; only drink water and/or tea/coffee.

Do HIIT. Also lift weights so you don't lose muscle. That's the basics of it.
Oh crap. I forgot that thread. Hah. Thanks!

...honestly, the booze is gonna be the hardest part. Gin and soda with lime for me.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
What was the point in posting in this thread when all that awaits me is ridicule and scorn? It sure sounded like I wasn't welcome in here anymore. Especially by the giant douche above

Oh my :lol
 

Ripclawe

Banned
starting week 8 of Madcow 5x5 and I am stunned that I am still progressing as the calculator said I would

Bench is now 350 (5 reps)
deadlifts hit 300(5 reps)
squats is now 225(5 reps)

think the big problem is I may be eating less than I should at around 2500 calorie and weight loss/gain going back and forth 5 pounds each way..
 

rando14

Member
starting week 8 of Madcow 5x5 and I am stunned that I am still progressing as the calculator said I would

Bench is now 350 (5 reps)
deadlifts hit 300(5 reps)
squats is now 225(5 reps)

think the big problem is I may be eating less than I should at around 2500 calorie and weight loss/gain going back and forth 5 pounds each way..

Whoa is that bench a typo? Your deadlift and squats should be much higher
 

Petrie

Banned
starting week 8 of Madcow 5x5 and I am stunned that I am still progressing as the calculator said I would

Bench is now 350 (5 reps)
deadlifts hit 300(5 reps)
squats is now 225(5 reps)

think the big problem is I may be eating less than I should at around 2500 calorie and weight loss/gain going back and forth 5 pounds each way..
Is this normal? Bench is the highest and squat the lowest? Wtf?

Hoping you mean to go: deadlift, squat, bench
 

Mr.City

Member
starting week 8 of Madcow 5x5 and I am stunned that I am still progressing as the calculator said I would

Bench is now 350 (5 reps)
deadlifts hit 300(5 reps)
squats is now 225(5 reps)

think the big problem is I may be eating less than I should at around 2500 calorie and weight loss/gain going back and forth 5 pounds each way..

Do you walk on your hands?
 

Mr.City

Member
Let's give it up for Combine, fellas, for his cameo appearance in fitness gaf. Let's see if he'll respond to this despite swearing off fitness gaf and calling us all assholes for not praising his 10 lb gain on the squat. I really think that a ban from the internet would do him well and force him to venture in the scary world of social situations without the screen.

With that done, I'm going to try deadlifting tomorrow using a velcro belt, which comes tomorrow as well. My other belt, a thick 13mm double prong, doesn't allow me to get into the pulling position. God knows I've tried.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Ahahahahaha yeah he must have meant 250

Yeah, my numbers doing a 3x5 are (DL is 5 single sets).

Bench 315 3x5
Squat 325 3x5
DL 445 5x1

Let's give it up for Combine, fellas, for his cameo appearance in fitness gaf. Let's see if he'll respond to this despite swearing off fitness gaf and calling us all assholes for not praising his 10 lb gain on the squat. I really think that a ban from the internet would do him well and force him to venture in the scary world of social situations without the screen.

With that done, I'm going to try deadlifting tomorrow using a velcro belt, which comes tomorrow as well. My other belt, a thick 13mm double prong, doesn't allow me to get into the pulling position. God knows I've tried.

I'm done with that dude, have been since the last time he posted. It's never his fault, always someone else's (or something else's fault), dude needs to be babied and coddled through everything and all he ends up doing is bringing the thread down when others feel compelled to respond to him, even when it's to help him.



Did you get the spud belt?

And yeah, I tried using my FTS belt for deadlifting, can't get into position with it. Deadbeef got a spud belt and said he likes it.
 

Ripclawe

Banned
Whoa is that bench a typo? Your deadlift and squats should be much higher

Is this normal? Bench is the highest and squat the lowest? Wtf?

Hoping you mean to go: deadlift, squat, bench

Do you walk on your hands?

hee. I know its out of whack. but I just got back into lifting weights the last 2 years(lost 70 pounds) and never paid much attention to legs ( A couple of sets every other day)

Then I started doing this program and realized I couldn't squat worth a damn. I tried doing 250 and barely made it up one time.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
hee. I know its out of whack. but I just got back into lifting weights the last 2 years(lost 70 pounds) and never paid much attention to legs ( A couple of sets every other day)

Then I started doing this program and realized I couldn't squat worth a damn. I tried doing 250 and barely made it up one time.

Wait, so those numbers are real?

Holy shit man, that's crazy!

At least your squats/deads will probably go up quick as shit.
 

rando14

Member
Yeah, my numbers doing a 3x5 are (DL is 5 single sets).

Bench 315 3x5
Squat 325 3x5
DL 445 5x1



I'm done with that dude, have been since the last time he posted. It's never his fault, always someone else's (or something else's fault), dude needs to be babied and coddled through everything and all he ends up doing is bringing the thread down when others feel compelled to respond to him, even when it's to help him.



Did you get the spud belt?

And yeah, I tried using my FTS belt for deadlifting, can't get into position with it. Deadbeef got a spud belt and said he likes it.

Great numbers! I'm jealous of your deadlift, that's straight up 3x my bodyweight. Did you post your 2012 goals yet?
 

Mr.City

Member
Ripclawe, you gots to pay tribute to the gods of squatting and deadlifting.

8ec34-squats_vs_deadlifts.jpg


Alienshogun said:
Did you get the spud belt?

And yeah, I tried using my FTS belt for deadlifting, can't get into position with it. Deadbeef got a spud belt and said he likes it.

I went with this belt instead since it was $20 cheaper. I'll report back after tomorrow's deadlifting session.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Great numbers! I'm jealous of your deadlift, that's straight up 3x my bodyweight. Did you post your 2012 goals yet?

Thanks and yeah, a few pages back.

If I remember correctly it was.

Bench 450 1rm
Deadlift 600 1rm
Squat 405 3x5

Pretty high goals (except for squat really) but I think I can meet them with some dedication and hard work.

I went with this belt instead since it was $20 cheaper. I'll report back after tomorrow's deadlifting session.

Look forward to your review.
 

rando14

Member
I don't think I could even dream of a 600 lb deadlift unless I drastically altered my lifestyle.

Current bodyweight 155 lbs
2012 goals:

325 lb bench (285 currently)
400 lb deadlift (340 currently)
300 squat (225 currently)

Squat will probably be hardest because I have crappy knees, but it shall be done. :)
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I don't think I could even dream of a 600 lb deadlift unless I drastically altered my lifestyle.

Current bodyweight 155 lbs
2012 goals:

325 lb bench (285 currently)
400 lb deadlift (340 currently)
300 squat (225 currently)

Squat will probably be hardest because I have crappy knees, but it shall be done. :)

That would be very impressive at your weight. Very impressive. Hell, your numbers right now are pretty damned good.

FYI I'm 240, so my numbers aren't as good as you're thinking. I've got almost 100lbs on you.
 
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