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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Bealost

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Alienshogun said:
Yeah I saw that, good shit man.

Pullups are more lat, chins more bicep but still back too.

I guess that makes sense about parallel grip. I like doing those more now, lol.
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I found an article that is similar to the other one I read regarding pull up grips.

In the latter situation — you can do pull-ups without pain, but you're just not very good at them — the problem could be with your elbow flexors. Your biceps are strong, and give your back muscles a lot of help on chin-ups. But on pull-ups, your biceps are more or less neutralized, with the arm power coming from your brachialis (a thick, strong muscle that lies between your biceps and your humerus) and brachioradialis, the forearm muscle that crosses your elbow joint and assists the brachialis in elbow flexion.

The neutral grip splits the difference — all three elbow flexors are engaged, giving your brachialis and brachioradialis a chance to catch up with your biceps.
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http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/things_you_should_know_how_to_do_1_the_pullup

That is the article, I also read somewhere that there is very little difference as far as back recruitment goes between the different grips as long as you are doing them through a full range of motion (chest to bar not just chin over bar).
 
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Brolic Gaoler

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deadbeef said:
Well I guess I'm an idiot. So now I've re-run this Frankenstein program, and I didn't really change what I was eating, and got the same results. So, yeah. Don't be me.

I'm confused though because I've run two cycles of Smolov Jr. for bench and have missed 1 rep. The first cycle I gained about 20 lbs on my bench press, to a paltry 265. I'm betting that I gained an additional 15 or 20 lbs this cycle. I've been benching 4X weekly and it really hasn't bothered me at all. That probably tells me something about my bench press ability but I don't know what it is.

So obviously it's all just too much - something has to give - and it's been squats.

Dunno what I'll do.

Actually, I even got rid of lower body assistance on Wednesdays.

It's just been
Monday - Deadlift 531, Bench Smolov Jr
Wednesday - Bench Smolov Jr, Rows
Friday - Squat 531, Bench Smolov Jr
Sunday - Bench Smolov Jr, Abs

So it's difficult to change what I'm doing since my bench has been progressing and my bench is historically so crappy. So I'm afraid to change what I'm doing with it since it's working.
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Ah, so you're not actually doing 5/3/1, you are combining routines?

deadbeef said:
Hey fuck it man, I'm gonna reset back to vanilla 531. I'll test my OHP next week and get set things straight.
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Nevermind, you just answered my question.

Bealost said:
I found an article that is similar to the other one I read regarding pull up grips.



http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/things_you_should_know_how_to_do_1_the_pullup

That is the article, I also read somewhere that there is very little difference as far as back recruitment goes between the different grips as long as you are doing them through a full range of motion (chest to bar not just chin over bar).
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Makes sense.
 
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Enco

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ShaneB said:
That's my go to tactic, and it aint working. lol
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Whaaaa-

Found this online:

What always work for me is this:
-Fill a fairly large glass with water, not too cold.
-Take a deep breath
-Drink all the water, without taking a breath
-Wait for a minute, and if the hiccups haven’t disappeared, repeat.
-Go to the bathroom
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deadbeef

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Alienshogun said:
Definitely understandable, I just hate to think the overhead from the other routine killed your squat progression.



Aww, shit.
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That's the thing man. Who knows? I could just being a little wimp. Lot of times, heavy weights are all just in your head - its a mind game. That's why I hesitate resetting because it might just my mind wimping out when it sees an extra plate on the bar

But then again it could be crap diet, crap sleep, overtrained, stress, the fact I didn't have headphones, dehydrated, hundreds of variables
 
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Brolic Gaoler

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deadbeef said:
That's the thing man. Who knows? I could just being a little wimp. Lot of times, heavy weights are all just in your head - its a mind game. That's why I hesitate resetting because it might just my mind wimping out when it sees an extra plate on the bar

But then again it could be crap diet, crap sleep, overtrained, stress, the fact I didn't have headphones, dehydrated, hundreds of variables
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True enough. Sucks all around man. I highly doubt you're a "wimp" though. Shit happens.
 
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deadbeef

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Alienshogun said:
True enough. Sucks all around man. I highly doubt you're a "wimp" though. Shit happens.
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I mean mentally. It's so easy to say "I can't do it! It's too heavy". Lots of times though, if you just get in the right frame of mind, tighten up, toughen up, and concentrate, you can do it.

So there's always the thought when you fail - did I fail because I'm not strong enough, or was I just not trying hard enough? That's something I struggle with every time I work out.
 
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Brolic Gaoler

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deadbeef said:
I mean mentally. It's so easy to say "I can't do it! It's too heavy". Lots of times though, if you just get in the right frame of mind, tighten up, toughen up, and concentrate, you can do it.

So there's always the thought when you fail - did I fail because I'm not strong enough, or was I just not trying hard enough? That's something I struggle with every time I work out.
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Whenever I went for a new PR benching I would load the weight, walk away, come back, not look at the weights and just get in position and push. At a certain point it all feels heavy, so I just try to forget what I'm lifting and go for it.

Plus there is the added realization that if I fail, I'm going to be crushed by 300+ lbs of weight. So there's that. ;)

It sounds like what you're saying is you are mindfucking yourself on bench much like I was mindfucking myself with squats for the longest time. That shit sucks. The belt and a healed back got me through my problem. I hope you find your solution soon.
 
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deadbeef said:
I mean mentally. It's so easy to say "I can't do it! It's too heavy". Lots of times though, if you just get in the right frame of mind, tighten up, toughen up, and concentrate, you can do it.

So there's always the thought when you fail - did I fail because I'm not strong enough, or was I just not trying hard enough? That's something I struggle with every time I work out.
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Dood, I've been there before. Sucks because sometimes you psych yourself out. That's why before every lift, I tell myself to man up because I'm not losing to these weights.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BUDDY! LIGHT WEIGHT!!
 
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deadbeef

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Alienshogun said:
Whenever I went for a new PR benching I would load the weight, walk away, come back, not look at the weights and just get in position and push. At a certain point it all feels heavy, so I just try to forget what I'm lifting and go for it.

Plus there is the added realization that if I fail, I'm going to be crushed by 300+ lbs of weight. So there's that. ;)

It sounds like what you're saying is you are mindfucking yourself on bench much like I was mindfucking myself with squats for the longest time. That shit sucks. The belt and a healed back got me through my problem. I hope you find your solution soon.
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Mindfucked my bench for years. Probably mindfucked my squats past 8 weeks
 
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Lasthope106

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In the 5x5 workout do I wait until I can fully complete the 5 sets with 5 reps to progress, or do I keep adding the pounds week to week even if I can't complete all the reps in the last two sets?
 
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cuevas. PhD.

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Lasthope106 said:
In the 5x5 workout do I wait until I can fully complete the 5 sets with 5 reps to progress, or do I keep adding the pounds week to week even if I can't complete all the reps in the last two sets?
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Are you doing stronglifts? You try 3 times and if you can't get the lift up on your 3rd attempt (3rd day) you Deload 10-15%. After the second time you Deload you switch to 3x5.
 
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Brolic Gaoler

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reilo said:
Do you have T-Rex arms or something?
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No, I never really worked on shoulder mobility. My chest and shoulders always stopped me right around the top of my head.

It seems the stretch gets harder the bigger you are and the less flexible you allow yourself to become as you get bigger.
 
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Mr.City said:
What does this mean?
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Can you touch your elbows to the ground? With a little training I probably could. Makes it easier to blow my back out. Shoulder dislocations are extremely easy for me, even without warmup or having done them in a long time, which means I have less stability especially in pressing. Some types of joint looseness are good and some are bad. I wish my hips were a bit looser and I focus my mobility work on them. My ankles seem to be on spot, but my back and shoulders probably could be tighter.
 
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