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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Enco

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One legged squats are fine for me, but pistol squats are a real bitch. Maybe I should work on touching my toes first hahaha


Also, anyone know what the position is where you are only on your hands, and your knees are on your elbows? I'm trying to find videos of people going from that position to handstand, as that is one of my goals.
Aren't they the same thing?

:lol

I should read up on it more.
 

MjFrancis

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Easier to load with weight, too.

Put a barbell on your back, do it in a squat rack with your back foot on a box and I believe you could call it a Bulgarian Split Squat at that point. Of course, no one thinks it came from Bulgaria and it's not exactly a squat, but it works so that's all that matters.
 

X-Frame

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Francis, what is that dip belt you got for Xmas this year?

I want one for my birthday next month and I forgot to save the bookmark.

I am also asking for EliteFTS Blast Straps. Hopefully I can assemble a pretty decent amount of equipment to get strong while at home and freeze my membership at the gym for a couple months.

I have a bench, those Bowflex adjustable dumbbells (only go to 52.5 lbs though), a chin-up bar, among other accessories like bands and whatnot.
 

deadbeef

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Francis, what is that dip belt you got for Xmas this year?

I want one for my birthday next month and I forgot to save the bookmark.

I am also asking for EliteFTS Blast Straps. Hopefully I can assemble a pretty decent amount of equipment to get strong while at home and freeze my membership at the gym for a couple months.

I have a bench, those Bowflex adjustable dumbbells (only go to 52.5 lbs though), a chin-up bar, among other accessories like bands and whatnot.

I would really like a review of the Blast Straps if you get them. I've had my eye on them for years.
 

MjFrancis

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I've only used it for pull-ups and dips so far, and yeah it works great. Everything in the review is spot-on, it takes up very little space in my gym bag and is very easy to secure. It hangs off the hips comfortably with the plates acting as natural counterweights.
 

gdt

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Just joined a gym, looking to lose weight again (I used to run, a lot, but never did any other exercises).

Just wanted to chime in and say the OP is awesome, gonna read through more in the morning.

I'll probably be hitting the gym every other day, I'm gonna start with the recommended beginner's routine, plus some running (I love running, it's very relaxing to me). The actual hard part, as always, is the diet lol.
 

SeanR1221

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Finished up week one of the 5x5 yesterday (I'm doing Monday, Wednesday, Saturday).

It was a little awkward doing so little weight, but I don't really care what the other people think. Plus in 12 weeks I'll be back to where I started.

I will say, starting off, I realized how shitty my form was before. I'm excited to slowly add 5 pounds each week and see what happens in week 12.

Have to give credit to cuevas, PhD. for helping me set everything up.
 
I don't really pay attention to what weights other guys lift but I appreciate good form or attempts at improving form when I see it. I smh at big weights with bad form/range of motion.

Lately I've been noticing a lot of thumbless grip benching. I think I see it at least once a session.
 

Enco

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I don't really pay attention to what weights other guys lift but I appreciate good form or attempts at improving form when I see it. I smh at big weights with bad form/range of motion.

Lately I've been noticing a lot of thumbless grip benching. I think I see it at least once a session.
Won't be pretty when a sweaty handed guy gets some broken ribs/a broken neck.

I always thought counting calories was obsessive but recently I counted a few days worth of calories for a basis and realised I was under eating. I've cleaned up my food selection and upped my calories. Already lost some weight and feeling good.
 

entremet

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Yeah. Tons of lifter drink milk/whey based stuff during their workouts at my home gym. There's also an amateur bodybuilder who does. Dude looks like a comic book character.
 

X-Frame

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I would really like a review of the Blast Straps if you get them. I've had my eye on them for years.

Same here. I would rather get the TRX but almost $200 for them seems crazy compared to the $80 Blast Straps. Unless I am not looking at both correctly, you can do the same things with either so it seems like an easy choice.
 

deadbeef

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Trying to decide between triumverate and Dave tate's bible.

I'll probably go with Triumverate at first. If I feel I can do more I'll switch to Tate's bible beginning in cycle 2.

Yeah, I'm going to do the Periodization Bible template starting next Monday (week from tomorrow). I think I'm going to try and keep up with my assistance work this time. I plan on switching out assistance exercises every 4 weeks, and will rotate them as well. Hopefully I can have at least 2 and maybe 4 assistance exercises to choose from for each so I can rotate through them over the year.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, I'm going to do the Periodization Bible template starting next Monday (week from tomorrow). I think I'm going to try and keep up with my assistance work this time. I plan on switching out assistance exercises every 4 weeks, and will rotate them as well. Hopefully I can have at least 2 and maybe 4 assistance exercises to choose from for each so I can rotate through them over the year.

Yeah, I just want to be sure I can push set 3 to the max, so I don't wanna go crazy with assistance unless I know it won't cause too much overhead.

So BBB is out, and it's between Triumverate and Tate's bible. My initial reaction is that it (bible) may be too much assistance work, but I'll see after I get going.
 

deadbeef

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Yeah, I just want to be sure I can push set 3 to the max, so I don't wanna go crazy with assistance unless I know it won't cause too much overhead.

So BBB is out, and it's between Triumverate and Tate's bible. My initial reaction is that it (bible) may be too much assistance work, but I'll see after I get going.

It's easiest to push the 3rd set on the first week (3x5) but I have my suspicions that it's probably better if you save that effort for the second or third week. You can really grind out some reps on the first week, and it will take a while to recover if you don't watch it.

I'm going to be going fairly light with my assistance work, just trying to gain some muscle. I'm going to stick in the 15-20 rep range, rather than dropping down to 10. I also superset opposing muscle groups with the assistance work when possible (easier with upper body due to equipment needed, in my gym).
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
It's easiest to push the 3rd set on the first week (3x5) but I have my suspicions that it's probably better if you save that effort for the second or third week. You can really grind out some reps on the first week, and it will take a while to recover if you don't watch it.

Probably a good idea, especially since I'm not accustomed to high rep workout.

I'll have to feel it out for first few cycles. But I have no doubt this is exactly what I need.
 

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
Gatorade or water during my workouts.

Side note: The 3rd edition of Starting Strength is now available on Kindle. The hard copy ranges from $30 to $40, and the Kindle version is only $10. So, if you've been on the fence about buying it because of price, then there you go.

It's like "cool" then you see a picture of Rip on the bottom

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deadbeef

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Probably a good idea, especially since I'm not accustomed to high rep workout.

I'll have to feel it out for first few cycles. But I have no doubt this is exactly what I need.

Right. For example, if your squat was 315, then your working max would be 90% or 285. Then the first week, you would be trying for max reps with your top set of 75% of that, which would be 215.

If you use the Rep Max calculation, then you would need 14 reps just to make the formula work out.

Code:
W = Weight Lifted
r = Reps
M = Max

r = (M - W) / (W * 0.0333)

Granted, this is all just games with numbers.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Right. For example, if your squat was 315, then your working max would be 90% or 285. Then the first week, you would be trying for max reps with your top set of 75% of that, which would be 215.

If you use the Rep Max calculation, then you would need 14 reps just to make the formula work out.

Code:
W = Weight Lifted
r = Reps
M = Max

r = (M - W) / (W * 0.0333)

Granted, this is all just games with numbers.


You have that formula wrong bud.

It's W X R X .0333 + W = 1rm

Or am I misunderstanding you?

I didn't see the formula you posted in the book at all.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I just rearranged to solve for R if you know the weight and your max. SCIENCE!

Ahh, gotcha. lol

The way Wendler spoke in his book, he wants more focus on the lift. So I'm gonna go nuts out on the main lift parts and try to keep assistance minimal as possible. TBH though I see myself eventually moving to Tate's bible.

Edit: Fucking auto correct.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
If it seems like a gimmick it probably is. Didn't read it, but reading the link makes me not want to read it.

Its not that great no. During 'back and biceps workout' it has you do concentration curls, cable curls and dumbbell curls, which seems silly. Leg day has no squats but like 5 different machines. Another day had seated barbell press for some reason, instead of standing. I'm sure it will all lead to some results, but its hardly efficient compared to programs like Starting Strength or 5/3/1 or 5x5. Way too many isolation exercises.

Didnt check the food recommendations but that might be useful for people who need some inspiration for food to eat.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Its not that great no. During 'back and biceps workout' it has you do concentration curls, cable curls and dumbbell curls, which seems silly. Leg day has no squats but like 5 different machines. Another day had seated barbell press for some reason, instead of standing. I'm sure it will all lead to some results, but its hardly efficient compared to programs like Starting Strength or 5/3/1 or 5x5. Way too many isolation exercises.

Didnt check the food recommendations but that might be useful for people who need some inspiration for food to eat.

Yeah, I kind of figured it would be some tripe like that just from the link.
 

entremet

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I just came across this link today, it's a day-by-day 12 week guide by Kris Gethin. It gives you a daily video that outlines the workouts you should do and the food you should eat. Anyone know anything about this? Seems a little gimmicky to me but I wonder if it's any good.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kris-gethin-12-week-daily-trainer.html

Doesn't seem like a gimmick. It's just that with these 12 week programs, they don't promote sustainability. Instead of promoting a lifelong pursuit of fitness.

What happens after the 12 weeks?

There are no cheat days as well. It's pretty strict.

Plus the trainer has been training for ages, based on his muscle mass, so don't compare yourself to him. He's basically cutting. Moreover, he's pimping a lot of supplements, which is common for bodybuilding.com.
 

MjFrancis

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Thought a couple of you guys might like that. ;)

Was kind of hoping MJ would see it first though, he has disappointed me yet again.
Again?

Aw, man, I'm letting the team down. At least I thought I was until I read the following post:

Well, pickle juice actually is better than water at reducing exercise-induced cramping. So it's not entirely ridiculous.
I'm farther ahead of the curb than I previously surmised, lol.

One more rep on my +45lbs chins today. Baby steps!
 

Mr.City

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I just came across this link today, it's a day-by-day 12 week guide by Kris Gethin. It gives you a daily video that outlines the workouts you should do and the food you should eat. Anyone know anything about this? Seems a little gimmicky to me but I wonder if it's any good.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kris-gethin-12-week-daily-trainer.html

I've never been a huge BB-split type of guy, however the biggest issue that I have with this is how it fosters a dependency on this trainer. Be like Kris, Eat like Kris, Fuck like Kris. The trainee's individuality is ignored, and the diet is pretty fucking bland. If you look at a lot of the BB.com posters, plenty of them of are pretty skinny with small lifts wanting that perfect combo to get more muscle w/o the fat (steroids) without it being steroids.

I've always like studying the nut and bolts of training and nutrition rather then doing something because the magazine told me or hoping that something will happen one day.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Actually Deadbeef, I think I'm gonna give boring but big a spin at first. The way his book words it, it seems like to be a really good muscle builder (since it's high rep). I've not done high rep work before, so I'd like to give that a spin. I know you did it before, how did you like it?

Otherwise, Dave Tate's bible seems like to go to for me.

It's so hard to decide. It's like a fucking delicious buffet has been laid out before me!

Also think I'm gonna throw HIIT on my lower days.
 
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