Escape Goat
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You mean start running for 8 miles when I do cardio? If I'm doing that much would every other day be best?
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You mean start running for 8 miles when I do cardio? If I'm doing that much would every other day be best?
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no i mean aim for 8 minute miles in your race
um for training idk what to recommend because i don't know what you can currently do now.
and the only way i know how to train for distance is not conducive to building muscle. if i had a half marathon coming up in 3 months and i had not been running i'd start off with
3 miles/day for 2 weeks with a long run of 6 miles on saturday
4 miles/day for 1 week with a long run of 7 miles on saturday
5 miles/day for 1 week with a long run of 8 miles on saturday
7 miles/day for 2 weeks with a long run of 10 miles on saturday
9 miles 3x/week for 2 weeks, with sprinting added in 2x/week with a long run of 12 miles
12 miles 3x/week for 3 weeks, with sprints 2x/week with a long run of 15 miles
then taper off and run no more than 5 miles a couple times the last week before the race to give your body time to recover.
also i woudl'nt mind if someone added some input to this as it's been a while since i've ran for distance.
oh and do this on pavement
I bet that dude's next thread idea is either "Is water wet" or "Is the sky blue?"
Escape Goat
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Excellent. Thanks for the breakdown, Bal. I'll talk with the trainer and get the skinny on this marathon business. He may have some advice for preparing too.
Is there a reason you mentioned to run on pavement and not the treadmill?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Added some MUCH needed flavor to that thread.
np. yes because 1. i hate running on treadmills, it hurts my lower back; 2. its WAY different than running on pavement or grass or sand or w/e the race is on; and 3. boring as fuck (for me)
For protein intake, how many of you go by the lean body mass or 1 gram per pound method?
I am trying for the month of june to go no supplements/whey mix, just all foods and so far its a pain in the ass to do by LBM and 1 gram per pound at 255 is a struggle breaking 180 grams a day.
I am trying for the month of june to go no supplements/whey mix, just all foods and so far its a pain in the ass to do by LBM and 1 gram per pound at 255 is a struggle breaking 180 grams a day.
Opinion for this varies. Lyle McDonald recommends about 1 - 1.4 g / lb. I stick to 1 g / lb, seems to be fine.
Bearded Dudebro
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I started out doing 1 gram per lb for my lean body mass, which honestly was really low. I've been lifting weights and listening to my body and increasing it when it wants, I've gone up to 1.80 gram per lb over the past few months and haven't gained weight, but most definitely have gained muscle.
So I'm up to 220 grams of protein a day, I only take 1 whey shake for 24 grams of protein, the rest is MEAT, RAWR. I cook alot of meat on Sundays. Kirkland Turkey Burgers from Costco give you 35g protein each, I'll have a couple in a day, Some Chicken Breasts or Lean Steak if I'm feeling it, 4oz Precooked Weight'll give you about 24 grams. A can of Tuna will give you another 24 and is cheap. A cup of Cottage Cheese will give you another 24 grams. Quest Protein Bars can get you another 20 grams.
I need to (and have been neglecting) doing those "sinus rinse" activities each night before bed, and think that would likely alleviate my ear issues that occasionally pop up during workouts- does that sound like it might indeed be the case?
Either way, will focus on breathing more going forward (did so already tonight).
My ringing started sometime last year and at that point I wasn't very physically active, but sometimes working out with P90X it'll flare up temporarily and is of course mildly to a lot scary.
Poindexter
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I saw better results at 1gram per lb of body weight. I think it varies from person to person. I know a guy that eats way less than that and still builds muscle easily. So see what works for you and create a rule of thumb.
Ken Masters
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Is it bad to workout abs everyday?
Disregarding risk of overtraining, you really don't have to work abs that much. On top of the role my abs play in moves like squats and pullups, I usually do like 5 min worth of ab stuff at the end of my exercises. Usually just variations of planks.
If it feels like you're breathing out of your ears, that's probably from dehydration, not sinus issues.
Poindexter
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Man, the ignorance and know it all matter-of-fact attitudes in that do women like muscles thread is rage inducing.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
The fuck? I've never heard of this.
That's people and fitness in general, the ones who know the most are typically the ones who haven't looked into it at all, but "know" from what they have "heard."
Good thing there are no know-it-alls ITT.
entremet
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Nope. Rule of thumb, anything with added sugar is not healthy by default.
Poindexter
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point taken. But at least most of the people in here have some semblance of research in their posts.
CaptainMintMan
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Just realize the dudes in that thread bashing the muscular type are doing it for a reason, and we all know what it is. The whole thread in itself doesn't make sense. On one side you have a eating disorder to result in anorexia, and on the other you have a lifestyle choice of bodybuilding.
Yeah, good thing about that.
Regarding the bodybuidling thread, it's best to just not talk about this stuff with non-exercising folk, be that in real life or on the forums.
entremet
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I'll let it pass. Most are just not aware that the contest BB are in a very temporary state and that muscle is very, very hard to build.
I'm only aware of this stuff from reading BB mags as a kid. My step dad subscribed. I didn't get into weight lifting until two years ago.
cluxdeluxe
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Training for distance running is pretty simple. Don't pay attention to the mileage and run for time. Ex. run 25 min everyday for a week then run 30 min everyday next week and keep adding 5 min every week. Always keep a comfortable pace and on days you feel good run faster at the end of the run. When you hit 50 - 60 min a day you can add in morning runs that are really slow easy runs for like 30-35 min. Only do morn runs up to 4 days a week like mon, tues, thurs, fri. Also, every sunday try to get in a longer run that is like 30 min longer than normal. You will be running fast a trash if you are consistent and your heart rate will be super low, but you will have no muscle or body fat after doing this if you build up to running 75 min a day or more w/ morning runs and 2hr long runs on sunday.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
People typically bash it because they want an excuse not to work for it. I assume that's the same conclusion you're alluding to.
I saw Rare read a little more and and closed the page, explains enough. I doubt that's what these guys are experiencing.
Right, I didn't see the ears ringing part. It's just an ear thing I notice when I'm exercising sometimes.
Splash Wave
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Can anyone tell me what to expect from skipping a week of working out? Next Friday I'll be visiting my girlfriend for a week with no gym access.
I've been back on SS lately, and have been seeing some pretty substantial gains now that I'm finally warming up properly (even without eating a significant amount). What kind of toll does this absence typically take?
I've been back on SS lately, and have been seeing some pretty substantial gains now that I'm finally warming up properly (even without eating a significant amount). What kind of toll does this absence typically take?
A week won't really do anything bad. Enjoy your week off!
Awesome. :lol
Although, there's nothing wrong with some body weight exercises when you can sneak them in.
hawkshockey11
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250 deadlift - 4 months of training
Get on my level
Get on my level
nice dude what'd you start at?
my deadlift is up to 350lbs after, i wanna say, like 4.5 months? i'll see if i can find my first SS related post in here lol
hawkshockey11
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never even been in a gym before I started. Started from an empty bar.
Splash Wave
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That's a huge relief. I assumed I'd have to lower my lifts pretty significantly, which would be very disappointing.
hot damn. that's realy good progress. isn't making gains great?
also i found the post where i first started hitting the gym up again:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=35417528&highlight=#post35417528
2/23/12 so just under 4 months actually.
Congratulations! So you did SS along with a significant caloric excess?
EDIT: Congrats to you too hawkshockey!
hawkshockey11
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I stopped making outrageous gains and gaining weight when I stopped GOMAD a month ago.
I hate it sooo much and don't want to go back on...
I hate it sooo much and don't want to go back on...
Kinda the same here.
Recently I've been making some gains but the GOMAD gains were pretty great. It's just because I had just started working out though. I put on a lot of fat and still haven't gotten rid of it all so I definitely wont be going back to it again. I hardly did half GOMAD and it was crazy enough. Full GOMAD is insane.
HarryHengst
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Regular bar is always the answer.
Start with the bar. Just the bar. No additional weight until you are confident with your form. The best way to avoid injury with squats is to make sure you don't care what people around you think. Too many people in my local gym only do half squats (which as far as I know is terrible for your knees) just so that they can push up more weight. The lower you go in a squat, the more you engage your hamstrings and glutes, and in most cases these muscles are weaker so it becomes more difficult when you squat ass to ground.
entremet
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GOMAD should only be used by super hard gainers and ectomorphs. Most people care somewhat about body composition, so clean bulking is more effective, albeit slower.
Well, they have a point in that many women don't have a hugely muscular guy as the ideal body type for them. There's plenty of research about that.
Now getting to the body type that women do tend to like, which is either 'toned' or 'built' still requires quite a lot of working out and managing your diet. So they suck.
As for any body dysmorphic disorders, there definitely are guys who get screwed up and feel inadequate unless they're the biggest guy they know. It happens, and it's sad.
Should your ass almost touch your heels then when you squat? I thought you were supposed to squat so your knees are bent 90 degrees?
Did the people in this thread bashing that thread even read the OP? I said in the first post that girls like big strong guys. The issue is whether they like roided out monsters on the cover of bodybuilding mags.
Why are people in here acting like that thread is against muscle in general? Most every person agreed the ideal is a muscular lean build.
Maybe you should read the OP.
I'm bashing the thread because it's babble. Saying that all women like one general body type is silly, and furthermore, that physique is something you only see in top tier bodybuilders; it's something you can casually build up over a summer.
I'm also against the whole ideology of "I don't get tooooo big, man." The sad truth about muscle gain is that it's all about diminishing returns. Also, lean refers to body fat, not muscle mass.
Except nobody claimed anything absolute like that. We are talking about on average.
I don't know, haven't benched in years. What does that have to do with anything?
Are you under the impression that I made the thread out of concern I was getting too big or something? That is not the case. It was purely theoretical. I understand very few people would ever get anywhere close to the level of those types of bodies.
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