still on SS and idk about the calories cuz i'm not keeping track of them. but yeah i am eating a lot lol
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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still on SS and idk about the calories cuz i'm not keeping track of them. but yeah i am eating a lot lol
youngplaya21
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I've never even heard anyone mention going that low besides in these threads (hell even the OP picture showing the form shows about a 90 degree angle). Looking at YouTube videos, other people at the gym, and other sources, it seems that the 90 degree angle form is the norm.
FallingEdge
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The goal is to hit parallel. If you can go lower, do it but getting to parallel is the most important.
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Goes to show you, more regulation for supplements is required.
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Poindexter
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90 degrees is the minimum goal for most people. But most experienced lifters will tell you to go as low as possible. Ass to grass. It's better for your knees and the range of motion hits a wider range of muscles.
Sounds like a great way to injure your back.
Poindexter
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Never met someone who hurt their back from going ATG. Obviously don't go so low that you can't keep good form.
I don't see any good reason to go lower than just below parallel. What muscle groups are you working that low?
muntersaur
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Works the quads over a longer range of motion and better targets the vastus medialis. Increases the recruitment of hamstrings, glutes, and even calves.
How low to go on low bar squats? I am at parallel for low bar and ATG for high bar
muntersaur
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Low bar should only be just below parallel because of the forward lean, whereas the more vertical torso of a high bar squat is far more conducive to going ATG.
Poindexter
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Pretty much that. I've never felt any pain while doing it either. It doesn't cause my back and extra strain really. It just makes the exercise more intense and I love it. I never quite feel completely worked with just parallel now.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Well, my last set of vibrams had a good run, just bought some new ones, I guess they last about a year, but I probably should have replaced them a little sooner.
TheFightingFish
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What model? I've beaten the crap out of my Biklas for three years or so now, and I run a ton on trail and gravel with them.
parrotbeak
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What made you buy new ones? I haven't been running outside much so I feel like they should still be good, but one side feels different than another along the big toe and the instep. Doesn't fit snug and stay tight like it used to.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Not sure to be honest, guess that would be smart to check.
KSOs so there isn't much to the sole at all.
There are holes in two of the toes on the left side.
When I put the new ones on it's quite clear the older ones were stretched out and didn't fit like they should anymore. These definitely feel more supportive and snug like they should.
yeah, don't run it.
Better to just stay away from heavy weights too, because it will wear out your joints. Stick to the recumbent bike for leg work.
Ass to grass just adds extra strain to the exercise by putting too much weight at a poor leverage point. It's the similar to doing curls at off angles instead of in-line with the joint. Sure, it seems like the same amount of weights is harder to do, but that's only because you're moving the direct load off the muscles and on to the joints.
The Last Wizard
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So why are black iron gyms more expensive compared to commercial gyms?
more commercial gyms and more members probably
muntersaur
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1. Weak VMOs. The vastus medialis (VMO) is a teardrop-shaped quadriceps muscle that crosses the knee and is essential for helping the kneecap to track properly. Weakness in the VMO is one of the reasons why an estimated 20,000 high school girls in the US every year suffer serious knee injuries, most involving the ACL. Further, weak VMOs adversely affect sprinting and jumping performance.
To show the importance of VMO strength, when I was a coach for the Canadian National Womens Volleyball Team, all the athletes had patellar tendonitis, which is a chronic swelling of the tendon that connects the kneecap to the lower-leg bone. Within two months of performing a workout that emphasized the VMO, only one athlete (who was not very faithful to the workout) still suffered from this condition.
The primary reason athletes, both male and female, have weak VMOs is that they seldom squat low enough. With the publication of their controversial 1969 book, The Knee in Sports, authors Karl Klein and Dr. Fred Allman, Jr., started a nationwide paranoia about deep squats. Although the controversy over squats has finally subsided, many coaches are still reluctant to have their athletes do anything deeper than a parallel squat.
Just from an empirical standpoint, if deep squats were so bad, then Olympic lifters would have higher rates of knee injury, as they not only squat deep but also often bounce out of the bottom portions. But this is simply not true, and weightlifters have among the lowest injury rates of any athletes. Seriously, if concern about knee injuries were a problem, then athletes should avoid participating in sports that involve any running. (To learn more about injury risks for various sports, I highly recommend Epidemiology of Sports Injures by Dennis and Caroline Caine, and Koenraad Lindner.)
One problem is that lack of early preparation is causing athletes to round their backs as they squat. They need to go through a period of learning the lift and developing flexibility to do it properly. Yes, there are precautions to take when young athletes begin to lift weights, but coaches certainly can have middle school athletes in PE classes learn proper form with empty barbells, including how to spot properly, so that they will be able to safely squat. Its a much more valuable use of their time than such currently promoted activities such as speed stacking!
http://www.charlespoliquin.com/Arti...rticle/235/The_Structural_Balance_Factor.aspx
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Lol, that police fitness test was a joke. Final run time was 12:49 without pushing hard.
Nice!
Please dont come in here and spread your silly misinformation. See the posts above, then take that crap elsewhere. Thank you.
fredrancour
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muscles are like cables/ropes, not like pillars-they exert force by pulling, not pushing. How on earth would going deeper take the load off the muscle?
How many miles? 1.5?
I don't know about cheapest but these are the best. Will last much longer than those crappy, mostly plastic, adjustable ones.
http://www.ironmaster.com/Quick-Lock-Dumbbell-System-75-lb-set-with-Rack.html#.T9OAYxB5mSM
Adjustable ones that you can add/remove plates from. You can put 10s, 5s, etc
parrotbeak
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Congrats Shogun!
Craigslist
Really this is the place for any and all fitness equipment.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Thanks guys, and yeah 1.5 miles. Bald when I was a runner the best I ran 2 mile was 13:02 for record and my 1 mile time was 5:15 (when I was THIS in shape I never did my 2 mile time), so good for you man, that's awesome.
Just finished the written exam and out of the 3 total I've taken this one was the hardest. I managed only an 80% and I felt I did better, but I'll take what I can get. Just a kick in the nuts after destroying the last two exams I took. I have to figure if I did that bad others probably did too.
Actually dead, I'm gonna go celebrate with some beer and a burger.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
this was my junior year in hs lol and the only time i ever ran the 2 mile at a meet. the coach came up day of the meet and said "hey you're running the 2 mile today!" so i ran it. never again T_T
i was more a mile guy too and got down to 5:10 but that was when i was 135lbs (junior year). i don't even wanna think of how good a shape i'd be in if i were running that now
edit: today for cardio...first time in a while i had a dedicated cardio day
10 hills with about a 1:15 break in between. the hill is AT LEAST a 45 degree incline lmao and about 75m. sucked ass
i was more a mile guy too and got down to 5:10 but that was when i was 135lbs (junior year). i don't even wanna think of how good a shape i'd be in if i were running that now
edit: today for cardio...first time in a while i had a dedicated cardio day
10 hills with about a 1:15 break in between. the hill is AT LEAST a 45 degree incline lmao and about 75m. sucked ass
Just for you Neogaff. Keep your nose down and chin up!
And thank you, I took a lot of motivations from this and the weightloss threads.
Cross posting this from the wieghtloss thread.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Holy shit, good work man!
How much am I supposed to pause between each set?
I'm just doing bicep curls and push-ups. I'm aiming for slightly bigger arms and chest. Just slightly. Will this make any difference at all? I started with 4 sets of 8 bicep curls and 5 sets of 10 push-ups. 3 times a week. I will slightly increase the weights or number of sets as I progress.
I realised that's all I'll ever be able to stick with. Other than bicep curls I hate weight training. I hate the workout environment as well (not the people, but the gym itself). Fitness is really not my kind of thing. I should really look into another sport, but social anxiety keeps me from joining a sports club. Even something like chopping wood would be way more enjoyable than lifting weights, but I don't have enough trees to chop on a daily basis
I'm just doing bicep curls and push-ups. I'm aiming for slightly bigger arms and chest. Just slightly. Will this make any difference at all? I started with 4 sets of 8 bicep curls and 5 sets of 10 push-ups. 3 times a week. I will slightly increase the weights or number of sets as I progress.
I realised that's all I'll ever be able to stick with. Other than bicep curls I hate weight training. I hate the workout environment as well (not the people, but the gym itself). Fitness is really not my kind of thing. I should really look into another sport, but social anxiety keeps me from joining a sports club. Even something like chopping wood would be way more enjoyable than lifting weights, but I don't have enough trees to chop on a daily basis
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Long enough to do the next set properly.
Don't overthink it.
As for the rest of your post, I disregarded it since I hate it. But if that's all you wanna do, do you.
Sorry, it's what's been keeping me from regularly working out. It feels like too much of a chore to me.
I want to work out my shoulders and lower back as well though, so I've been looking at some other exercises that seem okay for me.
Shoulders
Dumbbell One-Arm Shoulder Press (+ triceps)
Lower Back
Hug Knees To Chest (+ glutes)
Superman (+ glutes, hamstrings)
Does that make for a more reasonable workout plan?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
You would be better served reading the op and some literature on lifting. At least read the OP.
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