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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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thomaser

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I've started to do a little routine at home on days when I can't go to the gym: 100 bodyweight squats and 100 push-ups (25, 25, 15, 15, 10, 10). The squats are ok, but the push-ups are brutal!
 
Todays Lunch workout
4 rounds of
10 75lb push press
10 burpee to 24" box jump
20 atomic crunches
10each leg weighted lunges with 35 kettlebells
then 1 mile on the treadmill.

Evening workout
same as above except
100 pushup
100situps
after the 4 rounds
 

cdyhybrid

Member
Question:

I'm almost out of casein protein. I just got a new tub of whey recently so there's lots of that still. I wouldn't really be missing anything by just using the whey right? Do I even need casein? I get protein in my food but I usually had 2-3 scoops of protein (1 scoop whey after lifting, 1 scoop casein after breakfast and before sleep) a day to supplement that.

I ask because I'm poor and don't have the money to buy more casein.
 

rando14

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Question:

I'm almost out of casein protein. I just got a new tub of whey recently so there's lots of that still. I wouldn't really be missing anything by just using the whey right? Do I even need casein? I get protein in my food but I usually had 2-3 scoops of protein (1 scoop whey after lifting, 1 scoop casein after breakfast and before sleep) a day to supplement that.

I ask because I'm poor and don't have the money to buy more casein.

Casein is slow digesting, and for that reason it is preferred by "hardcore" lifters who want protein over night. Regular whey protein for lifting is just fine.

If you want some slow protein over night, get some dairy in (ex cottage cheese).
 

bro1

Banned
Todays Lunch workout
4 rounds of
10 75lb push press
10 burpee to 24" box jump
20 atomic crunches
10each leg weighted lunges with 35 kettlebells
then 1 mile on the treadmill.

Evening workout
same as above except
100 pushup
100situps
after the 4 rounds

Curios as to why two workouts a day? For conditioning, I think this is a great idea but I'm not sure how much muscle you build this way. Is conditioning your goal?
 
Casein is slow digesting, and for that reason it is preferred by "hardcore" lifters who want protein over night. Regular whey protein for lifting is just fine.

If you want some slow protein over night, get some dairy in (ex cottage cheese).

Is slow digesting/overnight use the only perks to casein protein ?
 

rando14

Member
Is slow digesting/overnight use the only perks to casein protein ?

For my purposes, pretty much. I don't even buy casein protein because if/when I want slow-digesting protein, I just eat cottage cheese. I much more prefer to get my protein through my food than through powders.
 
It's been a good week at the gym. My bench and press finally moved up; I gained a couple lbs and I went from not being able to do any last week to 2 consecutive ones.

One thing though, which is better for your back? The Pendlay Row or Bentover row?
 

cdyhybrid

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For my purposes, pretty much. I don't even buy casein protein because if/when I want slow-digesting protein, I just eat cottage cheese. I much more prefer to get my protein through my food than through powders.

Cool. I've been wanting to start eating cottage cheese again but hard a hard time squeezing it in with breakfast (usually eat eggs and rice in the morning). I'll just eat some of that and chug some milk before I sleep. Whey it is, then. Any downside to a whey shake after breakfast though? The body only being able to digest 30g protein at once is a myth right?
 

rando14

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Cool. I've been wanting to start eating cottage cheese again but hard a hard time squeezing it in with breakfast (usually eat eggs and rice in the morning). I'll just eat some of that and chug some milk before I sleep. Whey it is, then. Any downside to a whey shake after breakfast though? The body only being able to digest 30g protein at once is a myth right?

For breakfast, try cottage cheese with scrambled eggs. I usually mix them up and put some salsa on top, it's absolutely delicious.

If you're getting a high protein breakfast you don't really need a shake right after. I'd save it for a late-morning snack or something along those lines.
 
I find cottage cheese to be so disgusting. I would love to be able to eat it but i rather eat dry tuna than cottage cheese. And i love every other cheese. :(


I can finally go back to the gym today after having been out for almost two weeks thanks to an ear infection. About time because i can almost see my quads shrivel by the day due to a lack of squats. :lol
 
One thing though, which is better for your back? The Pendlay Row or Bentover row?

The mentality of which assistance exercise is better than another should stop.

The first question you should ask yourself is: what is my goal? From this goal you can better choose which exercise you want to do.

Pendlay Row - back parallel to ground and performed via deadstop off the floor. The aim is explosivity and raw strength.

Bent Over Row - back more at a 45 degree angle and slight momentum often used (though can be done deadstop via a power rack). Higher reps than the Pendlay row are used, and is mainly employed for a combination of strength and hypertrophy.

Yates Row - back is at even higher angle and momentum is used a lot. The aim here is to overload the musculature of the upper back, and straps are often used to handle a very heavy weight for a high amount of reps. This exercise is mainly for hypertrophy.
 
Curios as to why two workouts a day? For conditioning, I think this is a great idea but I'm not sure how much muscle you build this way. Is conditioning your goal?

Up until a year ago i was mostly a runner but started alternating cardio and strength to better my running and get a bit more toned. I only do the twice a day workouts about 2-3 times a week. And that outside of that a lot of running. Also my workplace has a wellness program with a gym and free classes so i might as well take advantage of it.
 

blackflag

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Cool. I've been wanting to start eating cottage cheese again but hard a hard time squeezing it in with breakfast (usually eat eggs and rice in the morning). I'll just eat some of that and chug some milk before I sleep. Whey it is, then. Any downside to a whey shake after breakfast though? The body only being able to digest 30g protein at once is a myth right?

Total myth. So is the Cassein thing. It doesn't matter at all. Need to eat every 3-4 hours? another myth.

There's so many myths that people are finally finding the time to research and dispute.

For me, I eat all my food between 3-11 and actually because of work and my workout, most of that is eaten between 8-11 pm. I eat 230grams of protein during that time, the only thing that has happened is that i've gotten leaner. Lifts still go up, still getting more swole, etc. Just make sure you hit your macros daily. It doesn't matter what time you do it. Do whatever is easier.
 

Mr.City

Member
Question:

I'm almost out of casein protein. I just got a new tub of whey recently so there's lots of that still. I wouldn't really be missing anything by just using the whey right? Do I even need casein? I get protein in my food but I usually had 2-3 scoops of protein (1 scoop whey after lifting, 1 scoop casein after breakfast and before sleep) a day to supplement that.

I ask because I'm poor and don't have the money to buy more casein.

No one "needs" casein or whey; they're just protein supplements.
 

Esch

Banned
Hey guys, I know this is the training thread for most people. I've been thinking for a while that GAF has a sizeable portion of martial artists given the popularity of MMA and well, because this is a videogame forum. I I'm asking here to see if any of you are interested in starting a martial arts training thread for people at all levels of practicing some martial art, be it traditional, combat sport, or even for health and fitness. For the people training strength and conditioning for Martial Arts I think it could be really useful, but I don't wanna step on the training thread's toes. Anyone interested?
 
For breakfast, try cottage cheese with scrambled eggs. I usually mix them up and put some salsa on top, it's absolutely delicious.

If you're getting a high protein breakfast you don't really need a shake right after. I'd save it for a late-morning snack or something along those lines.
Cottage cheese is best with a little applesauce or diced pineapple, I find.

Anyway, no weight loss since last week according to today's weigh in, but still looking and feeling good.
 

despire

Member
That it is better to drink Cassein before bed because it absorbs slower.

Well that is true, the myth is that it actually matters. It doesn't

Yeah, that's what I thought you might have meant. It absorbs slower but most of the time it's not that critical. Most people have more important issues to fix than worrying about whey/casein etc..
 
I have a quick question for FitnessGaf. Is the whole "eat protein right after a workout" idea part of Broscience also (aka doesn't matter)? I was always told to do this, but the posts talking about just meeting your daily goal and being fine is kinda confusing me. It's starting to be a pain in the ass to rush home and cook after a workout (when I'm out of protein shake powder), so I'm hoping that it is...
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I have a quick question for FitnessGaf. Is the whole "eat protein right after a workout" idea part of Broscience also (aka doesn't matter)? I was always told to do this, but the posts talking about just meeting your daily goal and being fine is kinda confusing me. It's starting to be a pain in the ass to rush home and cook after a workout (when I'm out of protein shake powder), so I'm hoping that it is...

It ain't that serious, just be sure to get enough of what you need when you can for the day.
 

Ra1den

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I have a quick question for FitnessGaf. Is the whole "eat protein right after a workout" idea part of Broscience also (aka doesn't matter)? I was always told to do this, but the posts talking about just meeting your daily goal and being fine is kinda confusing me. It's starting to be a pain in the ass to rush home and cook after a workout (when I'm out of protein shake powder), so I'm hoping that it is...

I read a book by Brad Pilon (intermittent fasting guy) that states that this is not necessary. However I wasn't very convinced by his logic. He quoted studies showing no difference, but you have to wonder how intense the workouts were in those studies.

He claims the methods of determining protein assimilation are flawed and don't reflect true muscle gain, and that it doesn't make a difference when you consume the protein.

Hard to say one way or the other, but it's pretty easy to take a whey protein shake with you to the gym or wherever just in case.
 
It ain't that serious, just be sure to get enough of what you need when you can for the day.

I read a book by Brad Pilon (intermittent fasting guy) that states that this is not necessary. However I wasn't very convinced by his logic. He quoted studies showing no difference, but you have to wonder how intense the workouts were in those studies.

He claims the methods of determining protein assimilation are flawed and don't reflect true muscle gain, and that it doesn't make a difference when you consume the protein.

Hard to say one way or the other, but it's pretty easy to take a whey protein shake with you to the gym or wherever just in case.
Appreciate the replies! I'll go with the 'not that serious' route when I don't have any powder, while just drinking it after a workout if I do.
 

big_z

Member
Anyone ever get pressure in the ears during a workout? I had it happen a week ago and my left ear has been ringing since. Wtf :(
 

LaneDS

Member
Anyone ever get pressure in the ears during a workout? I had it happen a week ago and my left ear has been ringing since. Wtf :(

I get this a lot during my P90X workouts and hate it, considering I've had nasty ringing in my ears for the last six months as is.
 

big_z

Member
I get this a lot during my P90X workouts and hate it, considering I've had nasty ringing in my ears for the last six months as is.

Did the ringing start during/after the workout? I was doing insanity when my ears got fucked and started to ring.
 
The trainer at my gym is trying to get a group of people form a team for a half marathon in 3 months. Is that enough time to develop an endurance to finish in a respectable time and not die in the process? I guess I ought to figure how long a half marathon is...
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
You guys need to focus on breathing properly. You're probably forcing air into your sinuses/Eustachian tubes.

Try chewing gum to help fix it.

The trainer at my gym is trying to get a group of people form a team for a half marathon in 3 months. Is that enough time to develop an endurance to finish in a respectable time and not die in the process? I guess I ought to figure how long a half marathon is...

More than enough.
 

balddemon

Banned
The trainer at my gym is trying to get a group of people form a team for a half marathon in 3 months. Is that enough time to develop an endurance to finish in a respectable time and not die in the process? I guess I ought to figure how long a half marathon is...

half marathon is 13.1 miles

you should be fine but 3 months is barely enough time to get a respectable base built up. really depends on where you're starting at.

also what's your definition of respectable? the world record is 57:23.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Anyone else see that "Do girls like bodybuilders" thread? Ahahaha.

Nope, will look for it now though.

That's a stupid fucking question though.

half marathon is 13.1 miles

you should be fine but 3 months is barely enough time to get a respectable base built up. really depends on where you're starting at.

also what's your definition of respectable? the world record is 57:23.

3 months is plenty of time as long as he "means it." That is assuming he's not 500lbs or some such thing.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
if he just wants ot finish and not die, yeah it is

13 miles isn't shit really, especially if you've run before. Preparing for 13 miles isn't hard at all. 3 months is more than enough time to do 13 miles running at a decent pace without stopping.

Like I said though, it's a bit different if he's obese/fat and doesn't run now.
 
half marathon is 13.1 miles

you should be fine but 3 months is barely enough time to get a respectable base built up. really depends on where you're starting at.

also what's your definition of respectable? the world record is 57:23.

As long as I could finish it I'd be pretty happy with myself simply for attempting it.

3 months is plenty of time as long as he "means it." That is assuming he's not 500lbs or some such thing.

My cardio has mainly consisted of treadmill at a steep incline. I sometimes do the stair climb but that wears me out faster and I don't feel as though I had a good workout (even though it burns calories like crazy). I guess I'll talk with the guy about it. I'm okay with totally failboating it but I don't want to burden the team with my slow ass (though Im sure there are other on the team that are as bad as I am). I guess we'll see.

Thanks for the input, guys.
 

balddemon

Banned
As long as I could finish it I'd be pretty happy with myself simply for attempting it.



My cardio has mainly consisted of treadmill at a steep incline. I sometimes do the stair climb but that wears me out faster and I don't feel as though I had a good workout (even though it burns calories like crazy). I guess I'll talk with the guy about it. I'm okay with totally failboating it but I don't want to burden the team with my slow ass (though Im sure there are other on the team that are as bad as I am). I guess we'll see.

Thanks for the input, guys.

aim for 8:00 miles maybe? that'd put you under 2 hours and i think is pretty doable
 
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