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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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DragonKnight
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Look. I get the notion that a person could be lying and overeating. That is not the case here. This isnt heavy weights. We do not lie to each other. The only thing that could be true is that i assumed a wrong starting weight. Thats probably the case here. She never weighed herself at the beginning of the summer. I ballparked it. she just texted me. She gained five poouds not twelve. And to eat under how much ur body needs to sustain itself is to set uo starvation mode. With p90x she needz to be eating closer to 1800 day and probably scratchig 1000.
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Look. I get the notion that a person could be lying and overeating. That is not the case here. This isnt heavy weights. We do not lie to each other. The only thing that could be true is that i assumed a wrong starting weight. Thats probably the case here. She never weighed herself at the beginning of the summer. I ballparked it. she just texted me. She gained five poouds not twelve. And to eat under how much ur body needs to sustain itself is to set uo starvation mode. With p90x she needz to be eating closer to 1800 day and probably scratchig 1000.
Dude...
No way on the 1800 btw. My boss is a male, 5'8, eating 1700 cals a day doing p90x (he started at 200 pounds) and has lost 33 pounds...using your argument he would be in starvation mode as well.
Look. I get the notion that a person could be lying and overeating. That is not the case here. This isnt heavy weights. We do not lie to each other. The only thing that could be true is that i assumed a wrong starting weight. Thats probably the case here. She never weighed herself at the beginning of the summer. I ballparked it. she just texted me. She gained five poouds not twelve. And to eat under how much ur body needs to sustain itself is to set uo starvation mode. With p90x she needz to be eating closer to 1800 day and probably scratchig 1000.
There is no such thing as starvation mode in the way you're describing it. If there was, intermittent fasting would not work.
You're body on stores fat if you eat foods with fat in them and your body does not needs those lipids for other purposes.
Generally, the "starvation mode" myth comes from people who eat very little, work out, and then spike their calories without adjusting their training to compensate (or they stop training at all).
DragonKnight
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Up the calories and see how she does.
Does she use a calorie tracker? Care to share her log?
Maybe she's not lying...maybe she's underestimating what she is eating. Is she measuring out portions and using a food scale? That's the only way to tell for sure.
Thank you. She is underestimsting what she ests. Her breakfast barely touches 300 cals. Dinner is another maybe 250. Throw in greek yogurt and a handful of nuts and thats it. Undereating.
To the above though, at that amount of calories, you are definitely burning throug muscle, which on the whole is just causing you more work later. More power to you, but just seems a bit silly.
I expect some muscle loss but the program minimizes it. Since I'm already somewhat lean this diet will only be for 11-12 days, of which I'm already 3 days in. I just started taking working out seriously so I'm willing to take a chance.
Why not just begin resistance training and a proper diet then? At your weight/height putting on a few pounds with training is going to be more noticeable, on the positive end, than losing weight.I expect some muscle loss but the program minimizes it. Since I'm already somewhat lean this diet will only be for 11-12 days, of which I'm already 3 days in. I just started taking working out seriously so I'm willing to take a chance.
Thank you. She is underestimsting what she ests. Her breakfast barely touches 300 cals. Dinner is another maybe 250. Throw in greek yogurt and a handful of nuts and thats it. Undereating.
I'd try 1500-1600 calories to start evenly spaced 5-6 times a day...which means she should be eating around 250-300 calories per meal or snack.
I'm surprised she was even finishing her workouts on 1200 cals...heck, even what you said she was eating could be less than that.
I don't count my gym activity against my BMR because I sit on my ass the rest of the day at work and then at home in front of my TV. I feel those variables are meant for people who are literally on their feet all day working waiter/bartender jobs, assembly line jobs, construction workers, etc.
God damn, leave it to Petrie the cyborg to handle business. I didn't want to say it myself, but do you spend most of your day with your girl? Perhaps she's a late night snacker or not as clean with her diet as she leads on to be. Point is, she wasn't working out crazy and watching her calories if she put on 12 lbs. Maybe the scale's broken?
Sometimes what you need is someone willing to cut out the coddling and say what needs to be said. Overweight people will rationalize and hide things in order to feel better. If she tells you that's what she is doing and you say "starvation mode", then she gets to feel like it isn't her fault.
But since Dragon is certain that isn't the case, I'm removing myself from that convo, because I want to be less confrontational on here, and will just go on the info given.
DragonKnight
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Ok. You guys may be good for bulking but have no idea how losing weight works. If you want to lose weight, you need to find your bmr. That's the amount of calories that ur bodily organs need to function properly. You never go below this value. If you are active, to calculate the amount of calories burn then you take your bmr and multiply it by an activity factor. This new number gives you your daily caloric burn. Eating any less than this value and you set up a calorie deficit. This number is different for everyone.
Example.
I'm 6'2 and 175 lbs. My BMR is 1953.25. That's how many calories I need a day just to sustain my bodily functions.
However, I work out three-five times a week. So I take my 1953.25 and multiply is by 1.55 to give me 3027.55 cals a day. Just to maintain my weight i need to take in 3027.55 cals a day. If i wanted to gain a pound a week i'd need to eat 3527.55 day. If I wanted to lose a pound a week, I would need to eat 2627.55 cals a day. If I wanted to lose two pounds a week, I would need to eat 2127.55 pounds a week.
Say I ate under my bmr of 1953.25 a week. I lower than my metabolic ceiling. At first i would lose but eventually my metabolism would reach a crawl and then I would cease to lose weight. Here, anything that I eat would actually turn to fat as I signal my body to store everything because food is scarce. That's what's going on with my girlfriend. She didn't gain 12 pounds. It was actually five. She is eating below her metabolic ceiling and has stalled her weight loss because of it.
Example.
I'm 6'2 and 175 lbs. My BMR is 1953.25. That's how many calories I need a day just to sustain my bodily functions.
However, I work out three-five times a week. So I take my 1953.25 and multiply is by 1.55 to give me 3027.55 cals a day. Just to maintain my weight i need to take in 3027.55 cals a day. If i wanted to gain a pound a week i'd need to eat 3527.55 day. If I wanted to lose a pound a week, I would need to eat 2627.55 cals a day. If I wanted to lose two pounds a week, I would need to eat 2127.55 pounds a week.
Say I ate under my bmr of 1953.25 a week. I lower than my metabolic ceiling. At first i would lose but eventually my metabolism would reach a crawl and then I would cease to lose weight. Here, anything that I eat would actually turn to fat as I signal my body to store everything because food is scarce. That's what's going on with my girlfriend. She didn't gain 12 pounds. It was actually five. She is eating below her metabolic ceiling and has stalled her weight loss because of it.
Why not just begin resistance training and a proper diet then? At your weight/height putting on a few pounds with training is going to be more noticeable, on the positive end, than losing weight.
Because I prefer to be lean year round which means I should cut and then slowly bulk up. I thought I had a decent amount of muscle so I would look good enough at a lower weight. Here's me after losing 10lbs on a more traditional cut that lasted 7 weeks.
http://i.minus.com/idSc1u8ymLlUx.jpg
DragonKnight
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Sometimes what you need is someone willing to cut out the coddling and say what needs to be said. Overweight people will rationalize and hide things in order to feel better. If she tells you that's what she is doing and you say "starvation mode", then she gets to feel like it isn't her fault.
But since Dragon is certain that isn't the case, I'm removing myself from that convo, because I want to be less confrontational on here, and will just go on the info given.
First, off.My relationship is not built on lies and I know for a fact that she doesn't eat a lot. She gets full off of eating three eggs, man. I see it every day. She always skipped meals in HS and asks me (my breakfast is 1200cals easy) where I put it all. Trust me when I say that we are not functioning under any lies. I get it. Some people lie. Some people cheat. That's not the case here. She has never been a big eater. But what she doesn't get is that if you are going to be as active as she is, she needs to eat. Problem is that she has never been a big eater. But to lose 2lbs a week, you have to add exercise into the mix.
DragonKnight
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I'd try 1500-1600 calories to start evenly spaced 5-6 times a day...which means she should be eating around 250-300 calories per meal or snack.
I'm surprised she was even finishing her workouts on 1200 cals...heck, even what you said she was eating could be less than that.
I don't count my gym activity against my BMR because I sit on my ass the rest of the day at work and then at home in front of my TV. I feel those variables are meant for people who are literally on their feet all day working waiter/bartender jobs, assembly line jobs, construction workers, etc.
Exactly. Finally someone is understanding me. I had to pause my movie (snakes on a plane), drop my smartphone, and get on my computer. She is and has been undereating. With her height, weight, and activity level, she needs to be eating closer to 1700-1800 cals a day or 425 to 450 cals per meals. I told her to break it down to breakfast, lunch, dinner, and a pre bed snack. High fat, high protein, and low carb. Her caloric needs will change as she starts losing weight.
And in addition to doing insanity, she works at a child day care, walking around kids all day and shit. She goes back to school next week and that's nothing but walking and she will still be working at the day care every day.
Exactly. Finally someone is understanding me. I had to pause my movie (snakes on a plane), drop my smartphone, and get on my computer. She is and has been undereating. With her height, weight, and activity level, she needs to be eating closer to 1700-1800 cals a day or 425 to 450 cals per meals. I told her to break it down to breakfast, lunch, dinner, and a pre bed snack. High fat, high protein, and low carb. Her caloric needs will change as she starts losing weight.
And in addition to doing insanity, she works at a child day care, walking around kids all day and shit. She goes back to school next week and that's nothing but walking and she will still be working at the day care every day.
I don't know how big your GF is, but 1800 calories a day is a bit much in my opinion for the average female to lose weight...she'll lose at most 1 pound per week assuming she's busting her ass on her workouts (Figure 500-600 cals per hour of cardio/weight training). The rest of the calories burnt during the day are already figured into her BMR. I really wouldn't use those multipliers, they really muddy the water. She'll need to play around with her calories a week or two at a time to try to dial into what she's really burning vs. taking in.
I believe I gave this same advice to SeanR1221 and it seems to have helped him.
DragonKnight
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Why doesn't she eat more then? So far it's helped me. I was eating 1500 calories a day and did myself no favors.
Thank you. I was waiting for people like you and rando(?) to come and chime in. She isn't hiding a secret stash. She is undereating by a ton for her activity level and her stalled progress (she even managed to gain a few pounds) shows it. I remember you saying that your body was holding on to all it could last week or something like that. If you really active, you actually have to eat more to lose weight. That isn't easy for an overweight girl who isn't a big eater. So tomorrow i'm going to take her through an example day and give her a ton of easy ideas on what she can eat. 450 cals per meal sounds like cake to me. Not so much for her.
No. I know precisely how to lose weight. You eat less calories than you burn in a day. That's all. It is, quite literally, that mechanically similar.Ok. You guys may be good for bulking but have no idea how losing weight works. If you want to lose weight, you need to find your bmr. That's the amount of calories that ur bodily organs need to function properly. You never go below this value. If you are active, to calculate the amount of calories burn then you take your bmr and multiply it by an activity factor. This new number gives you your daily caloric burn. Eating any less than this value and you set up a calorie deficit. This number is different for everyone.
Example.
I'm 6'2 and 175 lbs. My BMR is 1953.25. That's how many calories I need a day just to sustain my bodily functions.
However, I work out three-five times a week. So I take my 1953.25 and multiply is by 1.55 to give me 3027.55 cals a day. Just to maintain my weight i need to take in 3027.55 cals a day. If i wanted to gain a pound a week i'd need to eat 3527.55 day. If I wanted to lose a pound a week, I would need to eat 2627.55 cals a day. If I wanted to lose two pounds a week, I would need to eat 2127.55 pounds a week.
Say I ate under my bmr of 1953.25 a week. I lower than my metabolic ceiling. At first i would lose but eventually my metabolism would reach a crawl and then I would cease to lose weight. Here, anything that I eat would actually turn to fat as I signal my body to store everything because food is scarce. That's what's going on with my girlfriend. She didn't gain 12 pounds. It was actually five. She is eating below her metabolic ceiling and has stalled her weight loss because of it.
Don't come in this thread saying that somebody you have never met doesn't know how to do their god damned job. By your logic, if I eat nothing, eventually I would live forever as my metabolism would come to such a crawl I would be a self sustaining machine. If you are eating, at all, your body has to speed up its metabolism to digest the food. Starvation mode for you body is extreme, multiple days of fasting. To quote leangains:
4. Myth: Fasting tricks the body into "starvation mode".
Truth
Efficient adaptation to famine was important for survival during rough times in our evolution. Lowering metabolic rate during starvation allowed us to live longer, increasing the possibility that we might come across something to eat. Starvation literally means starvation. It doesn't mean skipping a meal not eating for 24 hours. Or not eating for three days even. The belief that meal skipping or short-term fasting causes "starvation mode" is so completely ridiculous and absurd that it makes me want to jump out the window.
Looking at the numerous studies I've read, the earliest evidence for lowered metabolic rate in response to fasting occurred after 60 hours (-8% in resting metabolic rate). Other studies show metabolic rate is not impacted until 72-96 hours have passed (George Cahill has contributed a lot on this topic).
Seemingly paradoxical, metabolic rate is actually increased in short-term fasting. For some concrete numbers, studies have shown an increase of 3.6% - 10% after 36-48 hours (Mansell PI, et al, and Zauner C, et al). This makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. Epinephrine and norepinephrine (adrenaline/noradrenaline) sharpens the mind and makes us want to move around. Desirable traits that encouraged us to seek for food, or for the hunter to kill his prey, increasing survival. At some point, after several days of no eating, this benefit would confer no benefit to survival and probably would have done more harm than good; instead, an adaptation that favored conservation of energy turned out to be advantageous. Thus metabolic rate is increased in short-term fasting (up to 60 hours).
Again, I have choosen extreme examples to show how absurd the myth of "starvation mode" is - especially when you consider that the exact opposite is true in the context of how the term is thrown around.
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I guess some genius read that fasting or starvation causes metabolic rate to drop and took that to mean that meal skipping, or not eating for a day or two, would cause starvation mode.
If she really spiked that type of weight there's an issue with the consumption of food in a particular time period, a a reduction of exercise output, or a combination of the two. Or a health issue that required an MD and a nutritionist to assist with.
DragonKnight
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I don't know how big your GF is, but 1800 calories a day is a bit much in my opinion for the average female to lose weight...she'll lose at most 1 pound per week assuming she's busting her ass on her workouts (Figure 500-600 cals per hour of cardio/weight training). The rest of the calories burnt during the day are already figured into her BMR. I really wouldn't use those multipliers, they really muddy the waters.
Actually she would lose like 1.5 pounds at that rate. What I think I should tell her to do is this. Eat around 400 cals per meal and see where you stand in a week.
Thank you. I was waiting for people like you and rando(?) to come and chime in. She isn't hiding a secret stash. She is undereating by a ton for her activity level and her stalled progress (she even managed to gain a few pounds) shows it. I remember you saying that your body was holding on to all it could last week or something like that. If you really active, you actually have to eat more to lose weight. That isn't easy for an overweight girl who isn't a big eater. So tomorrow i'm going to take her through an example day and give her a ton of easy ideas on what she can eat. 450 cals per meal sounds like cake to me. Not so much for her.
There is a difference between stalling like like SeanR, and what you are saying, which is that she ate like 1000-1200 calories a day for 3 months, and managed to gain a lb a week. Stalling from undereating makes sense, gaining 12 lbs goes against everything we know about the way the body works, and that's why you have people here wondering how this happened. The fact that you won't even consider that she may be sneaking junk food in without your knowledge though, makes this entire discussion pointless.
DragonKnight
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No. I know precisely how to lose weight. You eat less calories than you burn in a day. That's all. It is, quite literally, that mechanically similar.
Don't come in this thread saying that somebody you have never met doesn't know how to do their god damned job. By your logic, if I eat nothing, eventually I would live forever as my metabolism would come to such a crawl I would be a self sustaining machine. If you are eating, at all, your body has to speed up its metabolism to digest the food. Starvation mode for you body is extreme, multiple days of fasting. To quote leangains:
You must have missed the part where I said the children in Africa are starving i.e dying because their bodies are eating themselves. You have your net sources and I have mine. Dude, don't take this personal. My goal is not to argue with you. My goal is to get my gf on the right track. Calories in and out in not always that simple. Eating too little while exerting yourself stalls weight loss.
DragonKnight
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There is a difference between stalling like like SeanR, and what you are saying, which is that she ate like 1000-1200 calories a day for 3 months, and managed to gain a lb a week. Stalling from undereating makes sense, gaining 12 lbs goes against everything we know about the way the body works, and that's why you have people here wondering how this happened. The fact that you won't even consider that she may be sneaking junk food in without your knowledge though, makes this entire discussion pointless.
And then I said, I read through her text message she sent me this morning and she gained 5 lbs as opposed to twelve. And I know she isn't sneaking junk food. I won't budge on that. She doesn't lie to me. Plain and simple.
Edit: When put that way, she was much closer to stalling than gaining. Sorry for the confusion.
You must have missed the part where I said the children in Africa are starving i.e dying because their bodies are eating themselves. You have your net sources and I have mine. Dude, don't take this personal. My goal is not to argue with you. My goal is to get my gf on the right track. Calories in and out in not always that simple. Eating too little while exerting yourself stalls weight loss.
It absolutely can and will stall weight loss. It will not cause you to gain 12 lbs while doing Insanity.
She may not be intentionally lying to you, but you are not getting the entire picture.And then I said, I read through her text message she sent me this morning and she gained 5 lbs as opposed to twelve. And I know she isn't sneaking junk food. I won't budge on that. She doesn't lie to me. Plain and simple.
FallingEdge
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There is a difference between stalling like like SeanR, and what you are saying, which is that she ate like 1000-1200 calories a day for 3 months, and managed to gain a lb a week. Stalling from undereating makes sense, gaining 12 lbs goes against everything we know about the way the body works, and that's why you have people here wondering how this happened. The fact that you won't even consider that she may be sneaking junk food in without your knowledge though, makes this entire discussion pointless.
In addition to that, he doesn't even know for sure how much she is actually eating as he is just estimating her calories.
Track her diet for a week. Everything that goes in and see where it goes from there. The fact that she gained weight makes no sense. The pounds that fluctuate due to water weight and whatnot should not make a huge impact in the end.
DragonKnight
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It absolutely can and will stall weight loss. It will not cause you to gain 12 lbs while doing Insanity.
Jesus Christ dude. I get it lol. I corrected myself and said it was actually around 5 pounds. Factor in waste and water, she probably just didn't even budge.
Let's bring this all full circle.
I assumed that my girlfriend gained twelve pounds this summer because of undereating while doing insanity. I took the time to go back through the text she sent me this morning to find that she only gained five pounds. Factoring in variables like water weight and waste, i'm concluding that she actually just stalled this whole time as opposed to gaining anything. Twelve pounds gained while on such a deficit was a complete and ungrounded estimation on my part.
But this much is true. To lose weight she needs to eat more. And that's what we are tackling now. Sorry for the confusion.
In addition to that, he doesn't even know for sure how much she is actually eating as he is just estimating her calories.
Track her diet for a week. Everything that goes in and see where it goes from there. The fact that she gained weight makes no sense. The pounds that fluctuate due to water weight and whatnot should not make a huge impact in the end.
That's what I'm saying. Are you accounting for cooking oils? Are you weighing portions? Is she ignoring liquid calories, something many people do?
What I'm saying is there are many options here, the least likely being her eating 1200 calories a day, doing insanity, and gaining weight.
Jesus Christ dude. I get it lol. I corrected myself and said it was actually around 5 pounds. Factor in waste and water, she probably just didn't even budge.
Yes, and that's entirely possible. It still seems farfetched, and I'd be willing to bet that either snacking or mis estimated portions are a big part to blame.
I go back to how 90% of people couldn't pour a serving of cereal if you asked them to. People don't know what portions actually look like.
DragonKnight
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That's what I'm saying. Are you accounting for cooking oils? Are you weighing portions? Is she ignoring liquid calories, something many people do?
What I'm saying is there are many options here, the least likely being her eating 1200 calories a day, doing insanity, and gaining weight.
Yes, and that's entirely possible. It still seems farfetched, and I'd be willing to bet that either snacking or mis estimated portions are a big part to blame.
I go back to how 90% of people couldn't pour a serving of cereal if you asked them to. People don't know what portions actually look like.
I had her go out and buy measuring shit. I stress serving sizes and eating foods that you can quantify as best as possible how much you are actually eating.
Nope. Two eggs is 140, throw in coconut oil and that's another 100. With cheese and sour cream, thats barely 350. That's her exact breakfast. Snack is greek yogurt with blue berries or just the yogurt itself. No more than 200 cals. Dinner is usually lean chicken breast. Even a double portion only nets you about 240. Salad calories are neglible. Throw in a handful on nuts and you barely scrape 1000. Now add insanity and a job where she walks all day to the mix and you see the full story. She needs to eat more.
There is no snacking involved. The girl just isn't a big eater.
But an issue I think most of us have is with how are those "servings" being accounted for.
Thanks for your edit but I still think there is something not being accounted for. Starvation mode is a myth and I find it hard to believe she was at a deficit and gaining weight. Maybe stalled like I was.
Thanks for your edit but I still think there is something not being accounted for. Starvation mode is a myth and I find it hard to believe she was at a deficit and gaining weight. Maybe stalled like I was.
Nope. Two eggs is 140, throw in coconut oil and that's another 100. With cheese and sour cream, thats barely 350. That's her exact breakfast. Snack is greek yogurt with blue berries or just the yogurt itself. No more than 200 cals. Dinner is usually lean chicken breast. Even a double portion only nets you about 240. Salad calories are neglible. Throw in a handful on nuts and you barely scrape 1000. Now add insanity and a job where she walks all day to the mix and you see the full story. She needs to eat more.
There is no snacking involved. The girl just isn't a big eater.
And she did not gain weight just eating that. There is more going on. You may not LIKE that you don't know everything going on with your girl, and you can remain unwilling to accept that, but you don't know everything she is eating, are mismeasuring portions, or some other issue. She isn't eating that little and gaining weight. If she is, you need to get her serious medical help.
Everyone always wants to think they are the exception to the rule. "My fiance would never lie, she'd never hide anything from me". You aren't special. You aren't an exception. You are human, fallible, and there is nothing wrong with that.
DragonKnight
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Ok. I'm gonna back out of this thread. What works in hard empirical evidence. Gonna have her eat more and see what happens. Hope it works for her.
csquared587
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A question for the health experts.
I'm a thin guy, 5"11 and 150 lbs exactly. My problem is that I have developed a bit of a pouch on my lower stomach and a double chin. any exercises to reduce this? I guess I should lay off the sodas and sugar coffee as well..
I'm a thin guy, 5"11 and 150 lbs exactly. My problem is that I have developed a bit of a pouch on my lower stomach and a double chin. any exercises to reduce this? I guess I should lay off the sodas and sugar coffee as well..
DragonKnight
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A question for the health experts.
I'm a thin guy, 5"11 and 150 lbs exactly. My problem is that I have developed a bit of a pouch on my lower stomach and a double chin. any exercises to reduce this? I guess I should lay off the sodas and sugar coffee as well..
There is no such thing as spot reducing fat unfortunately. You gotta eat better. That's where it all starts. Fuck soda.
Ok. I'm gonna back out of this thread. What works in hard empirical evidence. Gonna have her eat more and see what happens. Hope it works for her.
Just have her adjust her cals and check in a week, then retweak again for another week if that doesn't work. Rinse and repeat until she dials into the right intake.
I guess I should lay off the sodas and sugar coffee as well..
That's really all you need to do. That's simply diet. You can't spot reduce fat.
DragonKnight
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Just have her adjust her cals and check in a week, then retweak again for another week if that doesn't work. Rinse and repeat until she dials into the right intake.
Yep. Already on it.
FallingEdge
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I had her go out and buy measuring shit. I stress serving sizes and eating foods that you can quantify as best as possible how much you are actually eating.
Nope. Two eggs is 140, throw in coconut oil and that's another 100. With cheese and sour cream, thats barely 350. That's her exact breakfast. Snack is greek yogurt with blue berries or just the yogurt itself. No more than 200 cals. Dinner is usually lean chicken breast. Even a double portion only nets you about 240. Salad calories are neglible. Throw in a handful on nuts and you barely scrape 1000. Now add insanity and a job where she walks all day to the mix and you see the full story. She needs to eat more.
There is no snacking involved. The girl just isn't a big eater.
Just salad? No dressing? The other issue could be calculating portions wrong. How do you prepare the chicken? Boiled with no oils/sauces? Just trying to get a better idea as there could be something else that might have been missed. What's a 'handful' of nuts?
Another thing to keep in mind is that if her body has changed. If there is a recomp, then she can still weigh the same but look different. How does her clothes fit? Do you see a change in her?
Yep. Already on it.
And buy a food scale if you don't have one. They really are invaluable to this process. You'd be surprised how little you get in an ounce of almonds, etc.
And buy a food scale if you don't have one. They really are invaluable to this process. You'd be surprised how little you get in an ounce of almonds, etc.
Serving of cashews depress me.
DragonKnight
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Just salad? No dressing? The other issue could be calculating portions wrong. How do you prepare the chicken? Boiled with no oils/sauces? Just trying to get a better idea as there could be something else that might have been missed. What's a 'handful' of nuts?
Another thing to keep in mind is that if her body has changed. If there is a recomp, then she can still weigh the same but look different. How does her clothes fit? Do you see a change in her?
That's what i mean man. It's just lean chicken breast with a rub. And she'll eat one piece. No oils. No sauces. She eats almonds. Serving size is 1/4 cup or approx 26 pieces. By handful, I mean less that (sometimes like ten). As for salads, she opts for a vinaigrette and avoids any thing thick or creamy. I stress portion size with her all the time. She says her clothes fit different and that's what I mean when i say she gained some muscle over the course of the summer. She believes her body comp to be changing. However, since starting insanity in the spring up until now, something is not right with her progress. She doesn't eat enough.
TheDarkStark
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DragonKnight is either on drugs or in denial.
A few years ago before I knew all that I know now about the body and how to lose weight properly. I was a 185 lb 20 year old man, eating 1,200 calories a day and working out 5 days a week for 4 months straight. Do you know what happened ***SPOILERS***** I didn't gain 20 lbs.
I lost 40lbs in 4 months.
Your girlfriend didn't gain 12lbs by eating 1000 calories a day, put down the crack pipe.
A few years ago before I knew all that I know now about the body and how to lose weight properly. I was a 185 lb 20 year old man, eating 1,200 calories a day and working out 5 days a week for 4 months straight. Do you know what happened ***SPOILERS***** I didn't gain 20 lbs.
I lost 40lbs in 4 months.
Your girlfriend didn't gain 12lbs by eating 1000 calories a day, put down the crack pipe.
csquared587
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There is no such thing as spot reducing fat unfortunately. You gotta eat better. That's where it all starts. Fuck soda.
Alright, Ive slowed down on it a lot after graduating college. It was my last year there that did it to me, multiple fast food trips a day.
DragonKnight
Member
DragonKnight is either on drugs or in denial.
A few years ago before I knew all that I know now about the body and how to lose weight properly. I was a 185 lb 20 year old man, eating 1,200 calories a day and working out 5 days a week for 4 months straight. Do you know what happened ***SPOILERS***** I didn't gain 20 lbs.
I lost 40lbs in 4 months.
Your girlfriend didn't gain 12lbs by eating 1000 calories a day, put down the crack pipe.
Sigh. I'm not even going to argue this anymore.
Pizza on squat day during lunch...what are your feelings? Just had 2 slices. =P
Feel like I can't wait to start bulking (or jealous if you're also cutting). Going to start with Starting Strength then tranistion to Madcow's 5x5 when I stall.
A question for the health experts.
I'm a thin guy, 5"11 and 150 lbs exactly. My problem is that I have developed a bit of a pouch on my lower stomach and a double chin. any exercises to reduce this? I guess I should lay off the sodas and sugar coffee as well..
you're 150lbs at 5'11"? you need to increase muscle mass and lay off the crap eating. do you exercise much right now or are you fairly sedentary?
Feel like I can't wait to start bulking (or jealous if you're also cutting). Going to start with Starting Strength then tranistion to Madcow's 5x5 when I stall.
Well, I am on a cut...I just budgeted for these via cutting a few carbs/cals elsewhere and making sure I bust my ass in the gym. The rest of the week is extremely clean eating.
Yep. Already on it.
can we stop ganging up on him and his girlfriend? It's really kind of sad that some of us are accusing her of sneak eating or midnight snacks.
Well, I am on a cut...I just budgeted for these via cutting a few carbs/cals elsewhere and making sure I bust my ass in the gym. The rest of the week is extremely clean eating.
Yeah, I've had pizza when I was cutting before. Just can't fit it into my current diet. I'm in Chicago so I can always go for some deep dish or thin crust.
can we stop ganging up on him and his girlfriend? It's really kind of sad that some of us are accusing her of sneak eating or midnight snacks.
I don't think most of us are accusing anything. We are simply giving possibilities. Any of the things we've suggested are possible. The least likely one is that she is doing insanity, eating 1200 calories or less a day, and gaining weight. The most likely are mismeasuring or snacking.
csquared587
Member
you're 150lbs at 5'11"? you need to increase muscle mass and lay off the crap eating. do you exercise much right now or are you fairly sedentary?
Tennis, basketball, and jogging multiple times a week, so nothing that would really increase my muscle mass. I need to start getting some bulk, I have always been the fast skinny guy when playing sports. Im thinking about joining a gym with some friends, I just hate having to sign up for a long term commitment.
I also want to get into good shape since I'm starting to go bald, damn aging.
Any opinions on MIO energy water enhancers as a replacement for coffee? I should probably just lay off the caffeine/energy drinks altogether, but its one step at a time for me.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007AXVG8K/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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