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[sphinx]

Ummm what? As many others have said, 1-2 days of drinking should make you look tighter and leaner as it sucks all the excess water out of your system.

I'm guessing you probably drank a of a ton of sugary drinks (anything and coke) or beer that was high in carbs am I right?

Stick with dry red wine or straight liquor and don't make a habit of it and you'll be just fine. Also want to avoid ordering pizza and nachos at 3 a.m. but you already knew that.

I don't know, maybe it's the mix of things I take together with the alcohol, but it's like clockwork.

.- drink either 2 beers, or 2 glasses of wine, or 2 glasses of rum with orange juice at night, together with some random meal.
.- Wake up with slight hangover, go to the toilet not everything goes well, lol
.- say welcome to that belly you though you had left in a far away past...

Nothing weird with straight men staring at the fully formed pecs and abs of oiled up men, as long as you're 'mirin

eh, sometimes both posers and admirers want more than that.

Not sure if it's broscience or real, but a friend told me that we produce more testosterone while working out and I can certainly feel, with the euphoric sense of strenght and strong body, like I'd could f*** everyone during and right after workout hehehe, but I am not that guy, I mind my own business.

 

[RumblingRosco]

I picked up SS again. This time I'm doing it more regularly and eating much more (or at least trying to). Having a workout buddy this time around helps me stay motivated, even if he doesn't follow it as strictly as me (he adds in curls + rows and doesn't eat as much as me). A month in and seeing some improvements already makes me happy. Not close to where I wanna be but at least I'm going up. =D

Age: 22 | Height: 5'7" | Weight: 160lbs

Squats 3x5: 95lbs -> 145lbs
Bench Press 3x5: 95lbs -> 105lbs
Deadlift 1x5: 105lbs -> 155lbs
OH Press 3x5: 55lbs -> 70lbs
Power Clean 5x3: 55lbs -> 70lbs

I know I can add more weight for power cleans but I'm trying to get the form right. I should be using my pull-up bar...

That, my friend, is the perfect attitude. Keep up the good work.

 

[TheDarkStark]

I disagree completely, they are primarily a hamstring/glute (leg)exercise that involve the lower back. It's a hip hinge movement.

I've said this before, but you're not picking up 500lbs with your back.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/get_it_right_the_deadlift

Just one mans opinion but I'm in agreement. Unlike a squat where your quads, glutes, and hip flexors are the primary muscle being worked, the erector spinae (lower back) is the primary muscle being used in a deadlift.

Just because your back isn't contracting doesn't mean it's not being worked. It's the same thing as doing a crunch with your abs pre-flexed, the abs are still the primary muscle being worked.

 

[FallingEdge]

I really, really, really wanted 7 reps @ 160 for OHP.

Got 6 =/

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/get_it_right_the_deadlift

Just one mans opinion but I'm in agreement. Unlike a squat where your quads, glutes, and hip flexors are the primary muscle being worked, the erector spinae (lower back) is the primary muscle being used in a deadlift.

From SS

The deadlift is a compound movement that works grip strength and the primary muscles used in the deadlift are the erector spinae, the gluteus maximus, adductor magnus, hamstrings and the soleus. The remaining muscles are involved in stability control. It is, in a sense, the purest single event test of strength because it is one of the few lifts of dead weight (weight lying on the ground). In most other lifts the weight changes direction or starts in the air and several other athletic skills such as balance, coordination are emphasized. For example, both Olympic weightlifting events require a great deal of athletic skill in addition to strength. In addition, it is commonly believed to be the oldest test of strength dating back to cultures who competed at lifting the heaviest stones.

This has equal weight to what you're saying and what I'm saying.

From my experience I work my legs far more than my back, (that's not to say my back isn't being worked). That's simply from someone who can pull 500+lbs. No one can deny that the deadlift is a posterior chain working exercise, but I'd argue that legs "lift" more of the weight and "work" more while the back holds it all together.

But perhaps I've focused on my back for so long now that I just feel it more in my legs because they are the weak point.

 

[MjFrancis]

I want a weak point that can still support a 500+ pound deadlift.

 

[cryptic]

Eat it. As long as the rest of your day isn't complete rubbish it'll be fine.

Why no carbs though? Holiday?

No, I'm stuck at school and only have the meal plan available to me.

 

[bro1]

When doing OHP, do you go all the way down to your chest each rep or do you stop at your chin? Down to my chin is easier but I feel like the distance from your chest to your chin puts a ton of stress on my shoulders and rotator cuff

 

[Eidan]

I really, really, really wanted 7 reps @ 160 for OHP.

Got 6 =/

You're out there stylin like a champion.

I only got 5

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I want a weak point that can still support a 500+ pound deadlift.

lol

When doing OHP, do you go all the way down to your chest each rep or do you stop at your chin? Down to my chin is easier but I feel like the distance from your chest to your chin puts a ton of stress on my shoulders and rotator cuff

When your arms are parallel to the ground, so bar about chin level, also remember to roll your elbows out into the front of the bar almost in front squat position.

I really, really, really wanted 7 reps @ 160 for OHP.

Got 6 =/

Just remember, it's one of the harder lifts to improve bud. That's still good.

 

[deadbeef]

When doing OHP, do you go all the way down to your chest each rep or do you stop at your chin? Down to my chin is easier but I feel like the distance from your chest to your chin puts a ton of stress on my shoulders and rotator cuff

I always go down to the top of my chest/shoulders. Anything else seems like cheating to me

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I do mine like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kwEkO7_0sYU#t=96s

 

[Petrie]

No, I'm stuck at school and only have the meal plan available to me.

I'd complain to whoever is in charge about the "only" carbs being available being french fries on a required meal plan, though In refuse to believe that's actually the case and you must be ignoring other carb sources.

 

[themadhatter444]

Are there any good cardio program's with kettle balls anyone knows about?nill be indoors most of this winter so don't wanna skimp out in cardio sessions

Do yourself a favor and get Keith Weber's "Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout". This has been touted on Joe Rogan's podcast for ages and I finally got my copy the other day. I did the whole DVD but had to cut some of the sets in half and do at least 3 minutes of rest between workouts. It's absolutely brutal and I consider myself to be in pretty decent shape by way of kettlebell metcon routines I do every week. This thing raped me.

Link to DVD at Dragon Door: http://www.dragondoor.com/shop-by-department/dvds/dv052/

Steve Maxwell's kettlebell conditioning workouts:
http://www.maxwellsc.com/steve-maxwell-dvds.cfm

Love me some Steve Maxwell. I'm sure his stuff is just as great.

 

[SeanR1221]

I'd complain to whoever is in charge about the "only" carbs being available being french fries on a required meal plan, though In refuse to believe that's actually the case and you must be ignoring other carb sources.

Yeah that doesn't sound accurate at all.

 

[Petrie]

Yeah that doesn't sound accurate at all.

It can't be, he just must not like the other carbs available.

 

[Doodis]

Couple of questions from a relative SS noob:

First question: when doing deadlift, I put the weights on the bar as it rests on the rack a little lower than waist height, as it's much easier to load the weight that way. Then I pull it off and just go down and touch the ground with the weight. Do I need to let the weight fully rest on the ground before coming back up, or is it okay how I'm doing it (in my mind, it's similar to just touching your chest during bench but not resting the bar on it)?

Second question: when loading/unloading weight, how much weight can you generally leave on one side of the bar before it's going to start to tip? I know it will vary depending on where the bar rests, but I'm just wondering how much I really need to go back and forth when taking weight off/putting it on the bar. Is there a general rule of thumb, like don't have more than 45 lbs. on one side before you start loading the other?

Thanks in advance.

 

[SeanR1221]

Couple of questions from a relative SS noob:

First question: when doing deadlift, I put the weights on the bar as it rests on the rack a little lower than waist height, as it's much easier to load the weight that way. Then I pull it off and just go down and touch the ground with the weight. Do I need to let the weight fully rest on the ground before coming back up, or is it okay how I'm doing it (in my mind, it's similar to just touching your chest during bench but not resting the bar on it)?

Second question: when loading/unloading weight, how much weight can you generally leave on one side of the bar before it's going to start to tip? I know it will vary depending on where the bar rests, but I'm just wondering how much I really need to go back and forth when taking weight off/putting it on the bar. Is there a general rule of thumb, like don't have more than 45 lbs. on one side before you start loading the other?

Thanks in advance.

Your deadlift should start from the ground not from the rack.

My guess is 2 45s might tip it.

 

[Doodis]

Your deadlift should start from the ground not from the rack.

So each time I return to the ground I need to completely let go of the bar? This is a bit difficult because the plates at my gym aren't round (they're octagonal) and when I let the bar go, it generally skewes left or right on one side. Kind of a pain.

 

[Veezy]

So each time I return to the ground I need to completely let go of the bar? This is a bit difficult because the plates at my gym aren't round (they're octagonal) and when I let the bar go, it generally skewes left or right on one side. Kind of a pain.

Yup, has to hit the ground. You have two options.

1. If you're really good at form, you can touch and go. Basically stay completely tight, tap the ground so you know you've finished the rep, and the pull again.

2. If it's hella heavy and you're doing ugly reps or still getting form down, you'll have to completely release the bar. Yes, it's frustrating. HOWEVER!!! I'm a man of solutions. If you only use one 45 plate on each side and 35s as the max weight for the rest, the two octagon plates furthest in should stay up. You're probably not going to hit a point where it matters that you've maxed out on 35lb pates on each side.

 

[Cudder]

I've never heard of letting go of the bar completely when doing dead's in between reps. I mean, you can take a few moments and readjust if you'd like, but what's the point of letting go?

 

[Veezy]

I've never heard of letting go of the bar completely when doing dead's in between reps. I mean, you can take a few moments and readjust if you'd like, but what's the point of letting go?

The bar hits the ground, you slack the grip to readjust, tighten and pull.

I don't mean move away from the bar, but some people have to reset each pull depending on weight. For me pulling 405 is different than 315.

 

[OG Kush]

I never knew you had to touch the ground everytime with deadlifts, granted I only started them a few weeks ago. I did do at first but I had to keep readjusting my form. Right now I go as low as I can without having to readjust my form.

 

[kylej]

I just started deadlifting a few weeks ago. I decided to deadlift my max today and I felt like I was going to throw up afterwards. I love leg day, but my body hates it.

I like what Frank Yang said about leg day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urkkG-Vn26I&t=1m5s

 

[SeanR1221]

I never knew you had to touch the ground everytime with deadlifts, granted I only started them a few weeks ago. I did do at first but I had to keep readjusting my form. Right now I go as low as I can without having to readjust my form.

Yeah just be careful not to bounce it.

It's called a deadlift for a reason. The weight is starting from a "dead" position on the ground.

 

[Mully]

I like what Frank Yang said about leg day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urkkG-Vn26I&t=1m5s

Basically how I've felt even before adding deadlifts.

 

[rando14]

*steps into wheat=evil thread*

*looks around*

 

[SeanR1221]

Didn't you hear? I'm the most blatant troll on these boards.

 

[Mully]

Didn't you hear? I'm the most blatant troll on these boards.

Unrestricted low carb man.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

I like what Frank Yang said about leg day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urkkG-Vn26I&t=1m5s

Frank has been acting very "normal" lately.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

*steps into wheat=evil thread*

*looks around*

Should make a "personal responsibility, what's that?!?" thread.

 

[SeanR1221]

Unrestricted low carb man.

I had 7 eggs, 4 pieces of bacon, 4 burger patties and 4 Italian spicy sausages. Threw 5 ounces of cheese in too. I'm feeling particularly skinny so I think I'm gonna eat more today.

Ok ok, enough fun poking, time to suit up and get to HIIT.

 

[beastmode]

Didn't you hear? I'm the most blatant troll on these boards.

*in regards to low-carb diets

 

[rando14]

*in regards to low-carb diets

beastmode you said you were done posting in this thread, and Mumei warned you as well. Please leave.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Ignore it and it will go away.

I had 7 eggs, 4 pieces of bacon, 4 burger patties and 4 Italian spicy sausages. Threw 5 ounces of cheese in too. I'm feeling particularly skinny so I think I'm gonna eat more today.

Ok ok, enough fun poking, time to suit up and get to HIIT.

That sounds delicious. Would eat again.

 

[Petrie]

Is that dumbass seriously back in here? ugh.

 

[beastmode]

beastmode you said you were done posting in this thread, and Mumei warned you as well. Please leave.

mumei told me to drop the discussion, which i did. i didn't see you guys doing so, which you could have easily done. or you could have addressed my concerns as if they came from a human being, not a target.

it is well within my rights and the spectrum of respectable behavior to make one exception, correcting someone who's trying to put words in my mouth. i don't enjoy posting in this thread.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

mumei told me to drop the discussion, which i did.

it is well within my rights and respectable behavior to make one exception, correcting someone who's trying to put words in my mouth.

No one addressed you or used your name. You're intentionally coming into this community to disrupt it, that's against TOS. Now to put you on ignore and hopefully someone has reported you.

 

[beastmode]

No one addressed you or used your name. You're intentionally coming into this community to disrupt it, that's against TOS. Now to put you on ignore and hopefully someone has reported you.

no i'm not. he's referring to my post. want to bring up what isn't allowed by the TOS? a lot of the behavior expressed towards me in this thread.

 

[rando14]

mumei told me to drop the discussion, which i did.

it is well within my rights and respectable behavior to make one exception, correcting someone who's trying to put words in my mouth.

Unfortunately, we've reached the point where you posting in this thread derails it, regardless of what you post, simply because of your history. Since that is the case, we have a case against you posting in here, as it does not promote fair discussion under the topic title, and instead ends up devolving into insults.

Bad for both parties.

 

[beastmode]

Unfortunately, we've reached the point where you posting in this thread derails it, regardless of what you post, simply because of your history. Since that is the case, we have a case against you posting in here, as it does not promote fair discussion under the topic title, and instead ends up devolving into insults.

Bad for both parties.

so someone can effectively say false things about me, and i'm the one not allowed to comment because the people in this thread can't be trusted to not go nuts? that's absurd. if you don't want me in here, don't bring me up or go insane over a simple, non-inflammatory post. i'll leave this thread now, effectively forever if you can make an effort not to talk about me.

 

[rando14]

so someone can effectively say false things about me, and i'm the one not allowed to comment? that's absurd. if you don't want me in here, don't bring me up or go insane over a simple, non-inflammatory post.

You made your post about SeanR earlier, so what are all of these replies after that? You "defended your honor", why do you continue to post?

This thread is already derailed, like I said, regardless of what you post. You seem to have problems with SeanR, please PM him if he is tarnishing your name and ask him to stop/delete his posts, don't get the whole Fitness OT riled up.

 

[bro1]

Anyway, what are your thoughts on doing high rep (15+) ohp and bench while I heal my rotator cuff. It doesn't hurt much at all right now unless I go heavy and it clicks often. Maybe 135x15 ohp and 185x15 bench for a week or 2?

 

[rando14]

Anyway, what are your thoughts on doing high rep (15+) ohp and bench while I heal my rotator cuff. It doesn't hurt much at all right now unless I go heavy and it clicks often. Maybe 135x15 ohp and 185x15 bench for a week or 2?

If you're having rotator cuff issues, I'd probably avoid heavy shoulder exercises altogether. Cuff issues are extremely common and can get messy very quickly. No point risking it.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Anyway, what are your thoughts on doing high rep (15+) ohp and bench while I heal my rotator cuff. It doesn't hurt much at all right now unless I go heavy and it clicks often. Maybe 135x15 ohp and 185x15 bench for a week or 2?

If you can do 135x15 ohp I'm impressed.

I'd maybe start with 95x 10 for a few sets ohp and 135x10 for bench and see how that feels. Be sure to warm up excessively with external rotations/pull aparts and other stuff first.

If those other weights feel WAY too low and your shoulder can take it, throw some more in, but I would stop and the mere hint of an issue.

If you're having rotator cuff issues, I'd probably avoid heavy shoulder exercises altogether. Cuff issues are extremely common and can get messy very quickly. No point risking it.

This, I caught my very early. As soon as I got discomfort I started with the rehab work and now I have 0 issues.

 

[deadbeef]

 

[RumblingRosco]

The only thing that makes me feel more alive than deadlifts is when I bike to the gym, do squats followed immediately by barbell lunges, then a few other small lifts, then bike home. By the time I'm home my legs usually cry gigantic tears of manliness.

Summary: Bike --> Squats --> Lunges --> Bike = Awesome

 

[OG Kush]

The only thing that makes me feel more alive than deadlifts is when I bike to the gym, do squats followed immediately by barbell lunges, then a few other small lifts, then bike home. By the time I'm home my legs usually cry gigantic tears of manliness.

Summary: Bike --> Squats --> Lunges --> Bike = Awesome

this does sound really good. I've been thinking about getting a bike for a few weeks now.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

The only thing that makes me feel more alive than deadlifts is when I bike to the gym, do squats followed immediately by barbell lunges, then a few other small lifts, then bike home. By the time I'm home my legs usually cry gigantic tears of manliness.

Summary: Bike --> Squats --> Lunges --> Bike = Awesome

I used to do the same thing but replace Bike with Run 2 miles to and from the gym. It was all fine and dandy until one time after my leg workout on the return run home my left leg seized mid stride and I went down face first. The muscle was spasming for a good 5 min before I could walk on it again.

 

[bro1]

Thanks Alien!

If you want a real leg workout, try brick training. Bike 20k and then run 5k right after with less than a minute of rest.