Brolic Gaoler
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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No problem, and fuck that.
Great day on the other end of this computer! I added some muscle ups back to my routine and they were surprisingly easy. I kept it low due to my previous shoulder trouble. Started with 3 and then just did one before my 10 regular pullups. Overall it was a total of 6 and I am pain free! It's a far cry from when I did 25-30 in the past but I honestly don't think I will go back to those days for fear of injuring my shoulder again.
RumblingRosco
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Actually, I had my right calf seize up once very recently on the bike ride home. I nearly wiped out but managed to maintain balance and come to a stop. It passed after about a minute or less. It was a day where I had essentially skipped lunch, was dehydrated, and going on only 4 hours of sleep, so I assume one or more of those factors influenced the cramp.
When he's crying and leg pressing I laugh with the guy in the background every time.
I understand what he means about leg day. I usually end the session drenched in sweat from head to toe. I grind through it, and after my shower I feel victorious. Tired, but victorious.
It's the same on deadlift day minus the sweat.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Good shit man, great to hear shoulder issues are scary as hell.
Ditto, since I only train 2 times a week now (in the gym) I do all my leg shit on the same day (squad and dead) and a crapload of assistance.
I think I'm gonna do some front squats in addition tomorrow too to prepare myself for adding power cleans/hang cleans to my friday work. Tomorrow is gonna be painful, and it's (leg day) already torture. I spend most of the time dry heaving, lol.
I've been meaning to ask all of Fitness GAF, is anyone here capable of doing a full planche? (click on the word if you don't know what it is)
I've been doing some very preliminary experiments with different positions on the equipment I have available but it seems like a VERY hardcore move, I was wondering if anyone can tell us what moves are good as a preparation to eventually achieve the full planche. Every video showing a Full Planche shows a guy with massive arm/chest/shoulders so I am not going to achieve that anytime soon, but like with any advanced move, it's good to know what will it take down the line.
I know there are youtube tutorial but they are bullshit. The other day when I brought the topic of pistol squats, youtube suggested some "pistol squat tutorial" videos and they are incredibly stupid, like everything amounted to "just go down on your leg and try not to go off balance and just don't fall".. laughable, terrible tutorials.
and I think it's the same with that FP.
anyone there??????
I've been doing some very preliminary experiments with different positions on the equipment I have available but it seems like a VERY hardcore move, I was wondering if anyone can tell us what moves are good as a preparation to eventually achieve the full planche. Every video showing a Full Planche shows a guy with massive arm/chest/shoulders so I am not going to achieve that anytime soon, but like with any advanced move, it's good to know what will it take down the line.
I know there are youtube tutorial but they are bullshit. The other day when I brought the topic of pistol squats, youtube suggested some "pistol squat tutorial" videos and they are incredibly stupid, like everything amounted to "just go down on your leg and try not to go off balance and just don't fall".. laughable, terrible tutorials.
and I think it's the same with that FP.
anyone there??????
Spiritreaver
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I WANT MORE DEADLIFTS.
fredrancour
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I'd imagine you would do crow stands to get a feel for balancing on your hands but wouldn't know what step would be next.
there are some double bars more or less at ground level where I train and they are very near each other so what I tried so far is to grab the bars and then rest my body on my elbows, trying to get into a complete planche position, even if sustained on my arms and elbows
but I still can't hold that position for more than a second.... more than the weight, is the balance, it's fucking hard and you need legs of steel, to keep them floating, their full weight just suspended in the air, that's very, very hard.
FallingEdge
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You're out there stylin like a champion.
I only got 5
=(
I know that feel bro. I was so close to 7. Had it half way then just couldn't go any further. We did good though!
True but it is still frustrating being so close. But yeah, improvement is always nice. This time last year, I want to say my max was at 160/165. So getting 6 reps is not too bad.
One day, I will get 225.
Okay I've got a question. Might sound a bit out there but here we go.
Is there a way to increase the size of your hands (fingers and palms) via training them? I've got quite small hands for a man (size 8) and I'd probably be a good piano player had I any music talent. Anyway it's my fear that at some point I get big enough that my smallish hands start to look weird in comparison.
So yes or no? Or do you think that big muscles/small hands don't look funny?
Is there a way to increase the size of your hands (fingers and palms) via training them? I've got quite small hands for a man (size 8) and I'd probably be a good piano player had I any music talent. Anyway it's my fear that at some point I get big enough that my smallish hands start to look weird in comparison.
So yes or no? Or do you think that big muscles/small hands don't look funny?
RumblingRosco
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I don't think there is much you can do, at least, not that I've ever heard. I feel your pain though, I have average length hands/fingers that happen to be very thin, barely a "medium" in most gloves, which matches my very thin wrists (barely 6" circumference around my wrists). It's just one of those things you learn to live with, and use it as motivation to strengthen/grow the parts of your body that you have more control over.
Silphonica
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Last night I started reading Starting strength (edition 2, dont judge), no the wiki but the actual book. Managed to read through the squatting section, upon reading it, I thought that even after getting better I was still doing it wrong. Even though I had always been going parallel/below parallel, the book mentioned the position of your back. Something I had never paid attention to, after reading about it, I was like "fuck my back has such a high angle", so in the gym today I tried doing it like to book and ended up trying to lean really forward during my squats which fucked me the fuck up. My squats were so bad today. I got home to practice my form in the mirror, I did it my normal way at first, well holy fucking shit, my back was at a really good angle doing it the way I was used to, I just had never seen myself from the side angle, so I had no idea. Second guessing myself really fucked me over.
I feel that maybe I have the bar too high though on my back, currently resting it just below the big ball at the top of my spine. Some dude in the gym actually mentioned to me about bringing it a little lower, I just don't have the flexibility at the minute though. Hands too, I normally had my hands positioned like I would on the bench (big middle finger on the ring), apparently thats a really wide grip, so I'm trying to bring it in a little more, starting by pinky finger on the ring.
Overall, even as I start to grow in confidence at the gym, I still feel new and I learn something, every session. I don't feel like such a dick when I fuck up, because at least I know i'll get better from it.
I could be facing a weeks ban from the gym though. As I was finishing with the squat rack, I forgot to put my weights away. Which is subject to a week ban in my gym - one of the staff members actually came onto the floor to put my weights away. Normally, I do put them away, just because I'm not a dick. However, I was distracted by some dude who was squatting, but taking the bar out the opposite way. The pegs were behind him, and watching him trying to put the bar back was painful, because he couldnt fucking see them. Someone actually mentioned to him to squat the other way round, but he didn't take the advice on board, I think everyone was expecting him to seriously hurt himself, I know I was.
I feel that maybe I have the bar too high though on my back, currently resting it just below the big ball at the top of my spine. Some dude in the gym actually mentioned to me about bringing it a little lower, I just don't have the flexibility at the minute though. Hands too, I normally had my hands positioned like I would on the bench (big middle finger on the ring), apparently thats a really wide grip, so I'm trying to bring it in a little more, starting by pinky finger on the ring.
Overall, even as I start to grow in confidence at the gym, I still feel new and I learn something, every session. I don't feel like such a dick when I fuck up, because at least I know i'll get better from it.
I could be facing a weeks ban from the gym though. As I was finishing with the squat rack, I forgot to put my weights away. Which is subject to a week ban in my gym - one of the staff members actually came onto the floor to put my weights away. Normally, I do put them away, just because I'm not a dick. However, I was distracted by some dude who was squatting, but taking the bar out the opposite way. The pegs were behind him, and watching him trying to put the bar back was painful, because he couldnt fucking see them. Someone actually mentioned to him to squat the other way round, but he didn't take the advice on board, I think everyone was expecting him to seriously hurt himself, I know I was.
This brings up something I've wondered: do you guys always rerack all your weights? If I'm benching or squatting and when I'm done it's the only rack available, I rerack them all, but if there's multiple free areas, I'll typically leave the 2 45s, making it easier when someone who wants them comes over, at least that's my thought process. Thoughts? Am I doing it wrong?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
We have the same unwritten rule at my gym, always been like that. Leave 2 45's on for the guys who wanna jump in and start right away, but only if there are other free bars. At gyms in Asia I never experienced that though, weights were always put back, but that can be attributed to simple culture differences.
Stop eating shit. Exercise more.
(Yes I have this ready to copy and paste anytime.)
I'm more perplexed by this related video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=880IYlRTC2c&feature=related
HOW DID HE FIT IN THAT TOP? :lol :lol
Lose weight. Eat better and lift. Level of importance is in order.
If you have face fat you have too much fat everywhere. Lose weight. Lift weights. Etc.
TheDarkStark
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No way man, I'm 10% body fat and 9% of it is in my face. My head looks like a pimple that's ready to blow at any second
TheDarkStark
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Shawshank.
No seriously though, that's a bit ridiculous. Around here almost nobody puts their weight away when they're done.
Good and bad workout at the gym this morning. The good was that I did 100x5 on OHP, the bad was that I couldn't squat 135. Might just reset the weight depending on how my next workout goes. It's frustrating having to lower the weight but I know that in the long run it's the right thing to do.
Your method seems sound. I only rerack all of the weights at my gym because only a handful of guys lift with anything resembling real weight. I'm talking grown men benching 65 lbs on the bench press.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
If I got banned for a week I'd drop my membership. That said, rack your shit!
Also, that guy is probably trying to rely on how his body feels for proper form, so he doesn't want to face the mirror.
Yep, unless someone is waiting I rerack everything. You have to remember that women (men not "that" strong) work out too, and they might not be benching 135.
Ego is a dangerous thing. If you need to lower the weight, do it.
The absolute worst part about leaving weights racked is I never know if some douche is in between sets and just wandering around the gym, or if he's gone and now I have to clean up his mess. We have a bunch of dudes at my Golds who do rack pulls with weight they can barely move, and after grunting out a few 3" reps, they'll leave a bar with 8 plates on it lying on the safety bars in a squat rack. Shit is disrespectful.
That is a large discrepancy.
Lets just say I ignored my legs all throughout high school, which was the last time I lifted somewhat seriously. I have a strong feeling that I started SS with my squats a little too high and didn't get a chance to get the technique and form down.
RumblingRosco
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I -always- re-rack my weights. I personally enjoy warming up with just the bar for bench and squat, so it is always annoying to have to clean up for lazy gym-goers. Also, as someone else mentioned, it is hard to tell if someone is done using the rack or simply going to get a drink of water. Please GymGAF, always re-rack your weights (and if you're using anything you sit or lie on, wipe it down)!
Spiritreaver
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If I have to do any kind of plate management before I start my warmup on any day. Let's just say people need to stay out of my fucking way for the rest of the workout.
It's one thing to forget, it's another to leave things on the floor of put plates in wrong spots. Sure, I'll put the 45s where the 10s are. Makes sense.
My favorite time is unracking someone else's weight and then seeing that the plate in my hands has no spot to go because there's a gigantic hodgepodge of plates.
EDIT: Not that I think anyone should be jumping your case Silphonica. Shit happens. I'd be lying if I said I've never left weights racked once.
EDIT2: I need to read every post following my last, You were all responding to Petrie, lol.
It's one thing to forget, it's another to leave things on the floor of put plates in wrong spots. Sure, I'll put the 45s where the 10s are. Makes sense.
My favorite time is unracking someone else's weight and then seeing that the plate in my hands has no spot to go because there's a gigantic hodgepodge of plates.
EDIT: Not that I think anyone should be jumping your case Silphonica. Shit happens. I'd be lying if I said I've never left weights racked once.
EDIT2: I need to read every post following my last, You were all responding to Petrie, lol.
TheDarkStark
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Make sure your hips and butt extending backward is the first thing happening in your squats. And that when you get to the bottom you should "explode" from the hips. Like 80% of people who try to do squats do them wrong, so don't feel like you're "weak" for working on form and technique vs heavier weight.
Watch any of Mark Rippetoe's videos on proper squat technique if you need further explanation.
I honestly reccomend just practicing squats without the weight in your house, focusing on balance and getting your hips extended. When you get to the bottom of your squat position hold it for a few seconds to see if you can maintain balance. Your weight should be on your heals a bit, not on your toes/knees.
I did the same thing; it's not unheard of.
In my personal experience you can rev up your leg strength from under par relatively easily; just keep to good form.
Appreciate the feedback. I'm a baby when it comes to squatting so I'm not all that worried about lifting heavy just yet. I rather do them right then do some half asses squats just to say I can lift x amount. Going to look at some of Rippetoe's videos again and just get back to basics. Will hit the gym tomorrow morning and solely focus on my form. At least all of my other lifts are progressing well.
hey come on, we all gotta start somewhere!
Spiritreaver
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I remember my freshman year of high school in gym class having a day on weight training. My friend who was considerably not-jocky was lifting with me and repped out 95 lbs like nothing. I couldn't even do the bar.
I told him that lifting was dumb and I don't see myself ever using a gym.
TheDarkStark
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When I was a sophomore I remember a guy on the football/hockey team benching 135lbs like 10 times and he jokingly said I should give it a shot. Well me being quite a bit bigger than him I was unimpressed and said "sure no problem" I then proceeded to ATTEMPT to lift the bar up off the rack..... yeah I failed miserably couldn't even get the bar off the rack, laughs were had all around.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
No doubt.. 135 back when we were kids was the golden standard. If you couldn't bench 2 45's you were nothing. Then when you finally got to 4 45's you felt like you had graduated to.. the very beginning of real weightlifting.
Nerdy, I gotta say you are like my role model right now. I'm taking a class to learn how to swim properly, with the ultimate goal of completing a triathlon, and FUCK swimming is hard.
Swam (actually floundered is more like it) maybe 12 laps, of various drills... Just kicking, just pulling, swimming sideways, back stroke, ect... and holy shit it is so damn hard. Coming from never really swimming at all outside of like doggy paddle at the beach, I just feel like I'm drowning the whole time! You have to put your head down in the water so your body will float, but surprise! when your heads under water YOU CAN'T BREATH!... makes it really hard. I love it.
My goal is a 1 mile free style by Jan, and triathlon distance (2.4 miles?) by this time next year.
Swam (actually floundered is more like it) maybe 12 laps, of various drills... Just kicking, just pulling, swimming sideways, back stroke, ect... and holy shit it is so damn hard. Coming from never really swimming at all outside of like doggy paddle at the beach, I just feel like I'm drowning the whole time! You have to put your head down in the water so your body will float, but surprise! when your heads under water YOU CAN'T BREATH!... makes it really hard. I love it.
My goal is a 1 mile free style by Jan, and triathlon distance (2.4 miles?) by this time next year.
You need to chill for a bit. Sounds like you're getting overuse injuries.
I think you are right. taking off tomorrow for sure. maybe friday too.
Poindexter
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When's the last time you took a week off?
Poindexter
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The problem isn't that people are starting out IMO. I see way too many people at the gym not pushing themselves. I rarely see anyone struggle. People using way too much assistance on assisted pullups. If I'm spending an hour in the gym then I'm going to make it worth my time.
Rice-Eater
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I remember we had this one very funny moment at the expense of another kid back in High School. It was PE class and it had everybody from sophomores to seniors(only Freshman were on their own). So we all went into the weight room to lift sometimes. And at some point we asked this skinny sophomore who was maybe 5'5 120 to see what he can do. So we put on two 25's(for a total of 95) and he couldn't do it. It was kind of funny, we gave him a bit of a hard time for it. Then the cheerleader who was also in the room offered to try it. She was about 5'3 120. Not fat by any means, just a little thicker than the guy who was pretty bony. She got under there and was able to do it.
That's when the 4-5 of us busted out laughing so hard. We gave him a hard time for a little bit afterward. But it seemed to have an effect on him as he started going into the weight room more often to lift, even if he was on his own. I graduated that year so I never knew if he got any bigger or stronger in the years that came after that.
But yeah, I remember even the first time I got under the bench I could do two 45's on each side. I think my max was 155 when I first attempted a max. When I took weight lifting class, the first time I reached 225, I felt like I transcended from a boy to a man. It was a pretty good feeling at the time.
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