exchange the fat I have into muscle...(in a sense) Not gain or lose. I'm done doing that
Yeah, I dunno why but I've had the impression the two should be alternate days.
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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exchange the fat I have into muscle...(in a sense) Not gain or lose. I'm done doing that
Yeah, I dunno why but I've had the impression the two should be alternate days.
Spiritreaver
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I dunno. I'm single too, but it's a requirement of anyone I date to at least take care of themselves physically, and guys who are also very active about fitness usually jump to the top of the list of people I want to date.
But as you saw in the other thread, I probably have really high standards.
The thing is that a rank novice has no idea of what his maxes are at any weight, and as a novice, anything he does at the gym disrupts homeostasis forcing adaptation. So SS is better for a rank novice in that there's only one variable to be manipulated, which is weight. In Practical Programming Rippetoe describes how there's an direct relationship between lifting experience and the complexity of a program because the novice needs less accessory work since he recovers so fast from the main lifts. Since GSLP also varies reps in the AMRAP set, the complexity of the program has been increased and in the case of a rank novice, there's no 5RM to base resets on and there's no max reps to perform because the trainee doesn't even know what his true maxes are.
Like you said, SS has no longevity, but that's by design I think. Anyone who does it for more than 6-8 months is NDTFP, like Rip would say. I mean, Deadlifting 2x a week and squatting 3x when you hit your true 5RM is fucking brutal. After that, it's time to move to something else, be it further strength training or bodybuilding or whatever.
I think that this is the perfect moment for something like GSLP: the trainee knows his body better, he knows what his 5RM looks like, and he is more adept at summoning the intensity necessary for the AMRAP set. Plus, his joints, bones, and CNS are also much better adapted to the higher reps demanded by GSLP.
They are both great programs and honestly so similar that I suspect it doesn't really matter, but I do feel SS offers some slights advantages for rank novices (people who have never touched barbells). It's almost like an algorithm in terms of its efficiency and simplicity.
If I were in charge the university gym I train at (which is filled with skinny wanna-be bodybuilders and skinny soccer players) I'd have everyone do SS for 4 months, mandatory, as is. They don't get to do a single biceps curl until they can at least squat their body weight for ten reps.
After that they'd do GSLP for another four months and then they could do whatever the hell they want. I suspect they wouldn't be very skinny at the end of those 8 months, and the performance of those soccer player would improve dramatically.
Depends on the relationship I guess. I couldn't imagine a situation where my GF/fiancee asks me to teach her how to deadlift and I would tell her to go ask the curl bros in our gym for help because it would be a bad idea for me to train her. Or some arbitrary limitation about not being at the gym in the same time even though we both go to the same gym which is right next to our house.
Of course there is going to be some small arguments here and there but that's normal and they are quickly resolved. If my GF wants to lift with me I let her because I'd rather have her with me than lifting without me or not at all. I'm just proud I have a GF who deadlifts and squats instead of flailing those pink dumbbells around like everyone else
Depends on the relationship I guess. I couldn't imagine a situation where my GF/fiancee asks me to teach her how to deadlift and I would tell her to go ask the curl bros in our gym for help because it would be a bad idea for me to train her. Or some arbitrary limitation about not being at the gym in the same time even though we both go to the same gym which is right next to our house.
Of course there is going to be some small arguments here and there but that's normal and they are quickly resolved. If my GF wants to lift with me I let her because I'd rather have her with me than lifting without me or not at all. I'm just proud I have a GF who deadlifts and squats instead of flailing those pink dumbbells around like everyone else
Teaching her once isn't the same thing as training her/lifting with her regularly. That's what seems to lead to issues for people, because the roles of b/f and trainer require conflicting actions.
I am lifting/training with her regularly. I don't really see any other option. She wants to lift with me and I'm fine with it because purposefully avoiding training at the same time would be just stupid.
I have noticed that bf/trainer roles tend to conflict and cause minor issues from time to time but not anything catastrophic like you guys said. I'd rather deal with those issues than have her lift alone or not at all.
L0st Id3ntity
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I began SS last February and I'm still increasing weight steadily on all the lifts, though I do have to deload occasionally for bench press and OHP.
However, I recently added more volume, I finish with around 20 minutes of intense bodybulding rep range for my weak points. The regular volume became way too comfortable for me, I like feeling a bit tired after a workout.
Congrats on having a girl without the body issues ours have then, lol.
Nothing like telling her squats are necessary if she wants to work on her ass and the fight that comes after it. Lol
On another matter, my GF has been doing Greyskull now since July. Before that she did SS. Problem now is that she's been stuck on most of her lifts for a while now. She's eating pretty well and I honestly don't think she can eat more than she is eating now without it becoming a major chore.
So today I was thinking that maybe it's the program that's not working for her anymore. She is pretty close to intermediate standards and I was thinking that maybe I should have her try 5/3/1.
So today I was thinking that maybe it's the program that's not working for her anymore. She is pretty close to intermediate standards and I was thinking that maybe I should have her try 5/3/1.
FallingEdge
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Sounds delicious. Hook me up!
Minus the candy. I never was a big fan =/
LOL. I whore my picture enough as is. Haha, maybe later this week. You make me look bad in comparison !!!!
Poindexter
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So I posted a few weeks back about my weight loss stalling. I had been stuck at the same weight for about 3 weeks and my lifts were all losing steam even when I tried to eat more. So I took a week off last week. Over the week I lost 6 lbs and I came back to squats today and set a new PR. Taking a rest week is great
BlueScrote
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God, I don't even want to think about that fight.
There is definitely some body issues as with all women but nothing major. She know squats are the best for ass and legs so she does them even though she hates them.
Only problems thus far have been her frustration with stalling and some problems with squatting technique which leads to minor bitching some times (not directed at me). Though I think she's finally gotten her form down better. Also she's a bit afraid of squats and deadlifts because she's afraid she will break something. Does them anyway though.
The only thing I dislike about GSLP is how taxing the Squat AMRAP set is. I'm useless after it. Per the program, squats / deadlifts should be done after the upper body lift. But squats really stress me out (that's an euphemism for 'scare the shit out of me' )and I like getting them out of the way first.
This is precisely why you should do them after your upper body lift
I know, but I'd rather come in to the squats fresh and hyped and then have a shitty bench session than the other way around.
My bench is trash anyway, because of my damaged shoulder, so I'd rather prioritize the lower body lifts, since I'm not handicapped when doing them.
Can you do chin-ups (underhand grip)? If so do chin-ups until you are strong enough to do 3x8 or so. Chins will lead to pull ups.
If you can't do chin-ups either, use negatives, inverted rows and the lat pull down to strengthen your pulling muscles.
Here's a great guide. It's written for women but should apply to anyone who can't do pull-ups.
http://70sbig.com/blog/2011/12/developing-a-pull-up/
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Zoe
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I have a hard enough time getting over my fear of falling during step class... I'd have to be twice as high.
Domino Theory
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Stronger back than biceps, maybe?
Also, scratch my concern on my arms not growing. Checked my measurements today and both arms went up almost .5 since I started higher frequency work 3 weeks back. Glad I found something that works for my arms.
Stronger back than biceps, maybe?
Also, scratch my concern on my arms not growing. Checked my measurements today and both arms went up almost .5 since I started higher frequency work 3 weeks back. Glad I found something that works for my arms.
Probably, most days I really struggle with working biceps.
This is a great way to progress on the chin up.
This is a very good argument. The GSLP is a good way to "extend" linear progression, however it's tedious to hear arguments about the best way to do LP for a novice. You're looking at around 6 months of work before the gains slow way down.
Brolic Gaoler
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smh kyle, smh.
I really want to try chin/pull ups, but 1) I definitely can't do even one and 2) the bars at my gym are too high
I'll probably start using the machine, but it's so hard to see progress on those.
Jump mother fucker!
Zoe
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FallingEdge
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Fortunately for me, my monkey arms allow me to reach the bars with ease.
we have one of those, an assisted pullup machine, and 2 pullup stations between the dual cable towers. the only thing we're missing is a straight bar
i want to show off my muscle ups but alas, i cannot.Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
First day of doing 1rm again. Squat was weak as expected. Ended at 405. Shit got real bad with that cut and the new split I was doing wasn't pushing squat hard enough. That's gonna suck building that back up. Everything else should be good though, will see as the week progresses, hopefully i can keep focused with this interview distracting me.
I'm 5'8' 225lbs I jump, you jump!
The bf's 6'0" and he still has to jump. I'm 5'0"
I'm 5'8' 225lbs I jump, you jump!
FallingEdge
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Eat more cheese pie.
Spiritreaver
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:/ Some of us are tiny, dude.
CliqWriter
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Who do you play rugby for?
And guys I need some advice. Due to an ankle injury from rugby I can't do squats quite yet and need to workout my legs. Besides leg press what are some good alternatives that don't put too much strain on my ankle?
leg extensions, hamstring curls, if you can do leg press than maybe stiff leg deadlifts?
I miss playing rugby, not so much the seemingly inevitable injuries. Good times.
lol i don't even
small is 6' 187 aka me
6'2 225 is nfl linebacker size, if on the light side. granted, we probably have drastically different goals but still. you aint small :lol
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leg workout today was awesome, i'm gonna be sore tomorrow.
1 set of 20 squats @ 225
2 sets of 20 lunges (10 each leg) with 30lb DBs
1 set of 20 lunges with 60lb DBs
plus random calf machine stuff.
manipulate
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I fucked my knee a few weeks ago; I can't tell whether it was from squats or playing soccer.
Anyway, it hurts to squat now. Is there any kind of leg stuff I can do in the meantime? I assume not =/
Anyway, it hurts to squat now. Is there any kind of leg stuff I can do in the meantime? I assume not =/
What kind of pain?
I wouldn't chance it man. Just do some vmo stretches, helped my knee recover when I would get pains squatting down.
manipulate
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I don't really know how to answer this. It hurts to raise my knee, and when I assume a squatting position it hurts. It has definitely been getting better (SLOWLY) though.
Cheers; googling vmo stretches!
FallingEdge
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I'm trying!
Yup! Gotta be bigger.
Yeah, I keep on trying to remind myself that. However, their 6'2 225 is at like 10% bf. My 230 is around 15%
http://i.imgur.com/UnsEi.jpg
yo fuck that guy
manipulate
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holy fuck @ at that dude. shit.
So picked up some Craze and it was good shit. I had to move today's workout to the early eventing so now I'm concerned I'm never going to get to sleep, but I had a great workout.
...Pff, fuck off. :|
...Pff, fuck off. :|
Tizoc
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OK I'd like some help with something please.
2 or so weeks ago I weighed myself and found I weighed 105 KGs or such.
During those 2 weeks I was unable to go to the gym, and only had 2 meals a day; Breakfast and dinner, with dinner being the more umm 'fattening' meal.
Furthermore, I only managed to go to the gym less than 7 times during those 2 weeks.
When I went yestreday, I weighed myself to find I lost 10 kg.
Now I don't exactly HOW I lost it, but when I look at what I've eaten and how I aimed to avoid eating in between meals...I just don't know HOW I lost those 10 kg.
Anyone got any insight o this?
Furthermore, while at gym yesterday I did this one exercise (keep in mind that I am not obese, but do have a belly and thick thighs), where I lie fly on my back and lift my legs.
I did 10 lifts, a short break, 10 lifts, short break, 10 lifts.
Afterwards when I went to do another workout, I got chest pains around the lower end of my chest.
What caused this? ...and should I do this workout again, if at least to do 10 of them?
2 or so weeks ago I weighed myself and found I weighed 105 KGs or such.
During those 2 weeks I was unable to go to the gym, and only had 2 meals a day; Breakfast and dinner, with dinner being the more umm 'fattening' meal.
Furthermore, I only managed to go to the gym less than 7 times during those 2 weeks.
When I went yestreday, I weighed myself to find I lost 10 kg.
Now I don't exactly HOW I lost it, but when I look at what I've eaten and how I aimed to avoid eating in between meals...I just don't know HOW I lost those 10 kg.
Anyone got any insight o this?
Furthermore, while at gym yesterday I did this one exercise (keep in mind that I am not obese, but do have a belly and thick thighs), where I lie fly on my back and lift my legs.
I did 10 lifts, a short break, 10 lifts, short break, 10 lifts.
Afterwards when I went to do another workout, I got chest pains around the lower end of my chest.
What caused this? ...and should I do this workout again, if at least to do 10 of them?
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