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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Cudder

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I know it's hard to say exactly, but on average, how many calories do you think are burned in an average lifting session? 2 body parts, 3 exercises each, 3 sets per exercise, taking about 60 minutes?
 

kylej

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I already feel weak as hell and could barely walk out of the gym after working on workout B. I definitely need to work on my endurance. I also feel like my deadlift form was pretty off. I was feeling a lot of tension in my lower back as opposed to my knees which I've heard is the proper form.

Anyway, hopefully I'll be able to stick to this general routine for the semester.

c'mon son. that's not the attitude to have. you WILL stick to this general routine not just for the semester, but fitness will become a part of your life no different than sleeping or eating.
 

SeanR1221

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imo all ON whey tastes horrible. Disgusting.

I think stuff I get costs a little more but I prefer my shake to taste like yummy dessert.


Trutein is my favorite (chocolate Peanut butter, Cinnabun, vanilla, Banana Cream)
Giant Sports Vanilla is amazing
MusclePharm Cookies and Cream is really good.

Mix all with unsweetened almond milk for maximum deliciousness.

Where can I get this Trutein you speak of?
 

kylej

Banned
I'll add this one to the mix.

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it wont let me upload for some reason but : http://bit.ly/VyXFWX
 

despire

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So regarding my question from last page would it be ok to stick with sumo deadlifts until I can properly deload my regular deadlifts (ie. after my cut)?

Deadlift's still a deadlift right? :)
 

cdyhybrid

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WHAT!? I could survive nuclear fallout with this stuff. Just mentioning it has me salivating at work right now!

Please tell me your secrets. It takes me like an hour to drink a shake mixed with water because I have to basically take shots of it to keep from gagging. Not even mixing it with milk helps much. Ugh. I have like half a tub left, I don't want to have to waste it if I can avoid it. But I might just have to abandon it and order a new flavor :(
 
So after not working out for 5 years I decided to get back into it trying to follow this program. Hopefully trying to gain some weight since I've been stuck at 140 for ages now.

http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/

Alternating between

StrongLifts 5×5 Workout A
Squat 5×5
Bench Press 5×5
Barbell Rows 5×5

and

StrongLifts 5×5 Workout B
Squat 5×5
Overhead Press 5×5
Deadlift 1×5

I already feel weak as hell and could barely walk out of the gym after working on workout B. I definitely need to work on my endurance. I also feel like my deadlift form was pretty off. I was feeling a lot of tension in my lower back as opposed to my knees which I've heard is the proper form.

Anyway, hopefully I'll be able to stick to this general routine for the semester.
Doing this as well, but the 3 times a week 5x5 squats was just too much for me. Going to switch it to 3x5, as 5x5 fucked with my ability to do the rest of the workout.
 

blackflag

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Where can I get this Trutein you speak of?

Usually it is on bodybuilding.com but they removed it for a few weeks to up production and stock because it sells out so fast.

It seems to be cheapest here and I've never had a bad experience from them but it is sold out as well. www.getrippednutrition.com

Looks to be in stock here. It was recommended by the makers of Trutein since it is basically sold out all over. http://phfsupplements.com/trunutrition-sciences-trutein-protein-5.html
I've never ordered from there though.
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Doing this as well, but the 3 times a week 5x5 squats was just too much for me. Going to switch it to 3x5, as 5x5 fucked with my ability to do the rest of the workout.

Yea I really struggled to finish all of it and will probably do the same along with balddemon's advice.
 
Diggin the farmers tan.

How's the new routine treating you. Haven't seen an update in a while.
I finished it before my NYC trip and am happy with my progress, got very cut up and found I added about 8 lbs of mass on my bulk and bit of 5/3/1. I'm about to get back into bulking for a couple of months here in a couple of weeks. So I'm pretty excited. Hopefully I can put on a few pounds!
 

blackflag

Member
I'm taking a week off from lifting I think. Feels like time. I feel beat down, tired, back hurts a bit. Gonna take a rest then get back to killing it next week.
 

SeanR1221

Member
Usually it is on bodybuilding.com but they removed it for a few weeks to up production and stock because it sells out so fast.

It seems to be cheapest here and I've never had a bad experience from them but it is sold out as well. www.getrippednutrition.com

Looks to be in stock here. It was recommended by the makers of Trutein since it is basically sold out all over. http://phfsupplements.com/trunutrition-sciences-trutein-protein-5.html
I've never ordered from there though.

Thanks Mang.
 

razielim

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Please tell me your secrets. It takes me like an hour to drink a shake mixed with water because I have to basically take shots of it to keep from gagging. Not even mixing it with milk helps much. Ugh. I have like half a tub left, I don't want to have to waste it if I can avoid it. But I might just have to abandon it and order a new flavor :(

Mixing it with water is ok but it has that consistency (like all protein powders in water) that I don't really care for. Mixing it with milk however is delicious. I suppose it's all just what flavors you like/dislike as I've tried others that I don't care for at all. However, I just choke the stuff down when I buy something I find I hate the taste of as I'd hate myself from throwing away all that money. So my secret info for you is to take a deep breath and chug it down as fast as possible haha.
 

PBY

Banned
Mixing it with water is ok but it has that consistency (like all protein powders in water) that I don't really care for. Mixing it with milk however is delicious. I suppose it's all just what flavors you like/dislike as I've tried others that I don't care for at all. However, I just choke the stuff down when I buy something I find I hate the taste of as I'd hate myself from throwing away all that money. So my secret info for you is to take a deep breath and chug it down as fast as possible haha.

Mix with unsweetened coconut almond milk. So good.
 
Looks like my week off is gonna turn into a week and a half. I've had this nagging pain in the front-delt area of my left shoulder for a couple weeks now (just worked through it during my deload week and didn't suffer any ill effects) and the fact that ice, advil, sleeping on my back, and even a massage haven't changed anything has me worried it's a rotator cuff thing :( It hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better either. I feel like it just started hurting one day, there was never a moment where I went, "Oh crap, I hurt something" so hopefully that's a good thing.

Going to an orthopedist on friday, hopefully it's just a strain/sprain/tendinitis/muscle issue that will heal on its own, or just with drugs. Might still do my original plan of testing 1RMs only on the lower-body exercises until I get checked out.

Anyone here ever have a rotator cuff issue of any kind? What'd it feel like and how long was the recovery?
 
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A More Normal Bird

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So regarding my question from last page would it be ok to stick with sumo deadlifts until I can properly deload my regular deadlifts (ie. after my cut)?

Deadlift's still a deadlift right? :)

If you're pulling better sumo then go for it, but try to do some warmups or accessory work in the conventional stance to work on form. One thing to note is that according to your post on the previous page you jumped from 80kg to 140 and failed, but pulled fine in sumo going to 100 and then 120. A 60kg jump is pretty big unless you're pulling a weight where you can fit a few of them in, so it might be worth giving conventional another shot with a more gradual warmup.
 
Post got buried last time,

Was wondering if anyone could give me some advice, I've been on starting strength since June and in September I had an injury in my lower back kind of like a muscle pull I guess. I'm told its a strain or sprain, I did a reset and was back to lifting normally and then in November the same thing happened again except on the opposite side of my lower back and it's been there since its really an annoyance since I can't squat that well now because of it. Was wondering if anyone could help me indentify what kind of injury it is and what to do?
 

kylej

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Well I'm not going to diagnose any back injuries because that's serious shit that only professionals should look at, but if you feel up to it you should record yourself squatting and post it here. Maybe your form is off.
 
Well I'm not going to diagnose any back injuries because that's serious shit that only professionals should look at, but if you feel up to it you should record yourself squatting and post it here. Maybe your form is off.
It's not so much the form I'm worried about, I've got people watching me squat. I think my form probably slipped once when I was tired. I just want to know if this is a serious thing or if it'll get better with a little rest. I don't want to stop lifting.
 

PBY

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It's not so much the form I'm worried about, I've got people watching me squat. I think my form probably slipped once when I was tired. I just want to know if this is a serious thing or if it'll get better with a little rest. I don't want to stop lifting.
Not sure it's possible to tell that from what you've told us, nor would I say it's smart to seek advice online rather than from a professional. About all we can do is evaluate your form and tell you to see a doctor.
 

MDR1750

Neo Member
It's not so much the form I'm worried about, I've got people watching me squat. I think my form probably slipped once when I was tired. I just want to know if this is a serious thing or if it'll get better with a little rest. I don't want to stop lifting.

this is something you really need to ask a doctor. no one on gaf can really know for sure how serious your back issue is.


worst case is that you read some encouraging words here and shrug it off and then end up with a serious injury later on down the road.
 

DeadNames

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What would be a good routine solely for aesthetics? I think I'm at the point where my strength is okay but now I would like to look good.

Also, are there any good body fat percentage calculators out there?
 

Noema

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So are the workouts in the op more suited toward strength training as opposed to gaining maximum hypertrophy/size?

The A/B workout? Yes, that's Starting Strength and its purpose is to maximize strength gains for newbies / detrained individuals. It provides a base of strength that can be used in sports and other physical activities.

You'll get hypertrophy out of it, but it's not the main goal of the program. You do it for 6-8 months and then move on to something else after the strength gains have stalled.
 

Mully

Member
What would be a good routine solely for aesthetics? I think I'm at the point where my strength is okay but now I would like to look good.

Also, are there any good body fat percentage calculators out there?

Why stop? Keep going, keep adding.

You need calipers for BF calculation.
 
It's not so much the form I'm worried about, I've got people watching me squat. I think my form probably slipped once when I was tired. I just want to know if this is a serious thing or if it'll get better with a little rest. I don't want to stop lifting.

As someone who is recovering from a back injury, do yourself a favor and get yourself checked out. If there is something wrong with your back and you continue to lift, you're setting yourself up for serious injury. Could be an easy fix that'll get better with rest and soft tissue work/stretching, but you won't know for sure til you get yourself checked out.
 

Noema

Member
P90x is a bit too expensive. And I guess I'll just continue on with SS for now I suppose.

Should I still do cardio? I have people telling me I should do and and people telling me I shouldn't. I'm trying to look good for this summer so that might be a factor.


You could try 531 for Bodybuilders. It has a ton of hypertrophy work but it also has a strength base.
 

params7

Banned
I'm fucking stupid. I started SS over 6 months ago. Progressed in every workout except Squats itself. Was going home with pain in both my knees every workout. Today I find out I could barely even keep the bar in a straight path even at 1 plate. Was shifting the wait forward towards the balls of my feet even though I never meant too. Feck.

Starting over with Squats from 25 lbs now with 5-10 increases per workout and hopefully I do it right this time. but at least im nearly 2.5 plates in deadlifts.
 

theytookourjobz

Junior Member
I'm going to disagree on some of the CrossFit negativity. While its probably a shitty program for someone who is new, I've been lifting awhile and I always use good form, even doing timed workouts. Sure some "coaches" at CF gyms might yell at me to go faster but that doesn't mean I have to do it. I go as fast as I can without putting myself in an injurious position. The benefits (training with and competing against other athletes and being able to slam fucking bars) outweigh the negatives FOR ME. That being said, there are a metric shit-ton of CF gyms now and most of the people that run them suck.
 

entremet

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Deload lifts are the same weight as my warmup lifts. I'm confused.

It's the reason it's called a deload week. You're still doing 5x5. Deloads are built in so you can hit the weights heavy, give your CNS a rest and recover for the main work weeks.
 

cryptic

Member
I'm about 5'7'' and I'm gaining all types of weight, lot of liquids lately, but my abs are still there. Should I just continue the push to 200, I'm worried.
Goddammit I should have never worked legs.

EDIT: What's up with the protein shakes? You guys have me questioning whether I should discontinue my pursuit of a bigger steak.
 

Mully

Member
Are you doing the challenge or just vanilla 531?

Vanilla 5/3/1.

I finally snagged a copy two months ago and haven't been able to start my first legit cycle until four weeks ago due to injury.

Wendler raved about BBB for one assistance so I've done it with each main lift. Do I keep my BBB numbers the same or lower them like the rest of my lifts when I deload this week?
 
As someone who is recovering from a back injury, do yourself a favor and get yourself checked out. If there is something wrong with your back and you continue to lift, you're setting yourself up for serious injury. Could be an easy fix that'll get better with rest and soft tissue work/stretching, but you won't know for sure til you get yourself checked out.

this is something you really need to ask a doctor. no one on gaf can really know for sure how serious your back issue is.


worst case is that you read some encouraging words here and shrug it off and then end up with a serious injury later on down the road.

Not sure it's possible to tell that from what you've told us, nor would I say it's smart to seek advice online rather than from a professional. About all we can do is evaluate your form and tell you to see a doctor.
What type of doc should I see?
 

entremet

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Vanilla 5/3/1.

I finally snagged a copy two months ago and haven't been able to start my first legit cycle until four weeks ago due to injury.

Wendler raved about BBB for one assistance so I've done it with each main lift. Do I keep my BBB numbers the same or lower them like the rest of my lifts when I deload this week?

Deloads should only be for the main big lifts in vanilla 5/3/1.
 
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