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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Veezy

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lol @ glove hate

No matter what a boss you are, no girl wants your dry, calloused-ass hands running over her body. Period.

And, no matter what kind of lifter you are, gloves are not a safe as chalk. If you're a heterosexual man and a woman is abject to being naked with you due to your callouses, the issues isn't your callouses.

Managing callous is not time consuming, easy to do, and if you're that abject against it switching to straps for DLs and tape of pulls ups is a better solution than gloves.

How is that even possible, hell I get a couple beastly callouses just from using the throttle on my motorcycle :p

You can grab the barbell where your fingers meet your hand rather than grabbing in the center of your palm to reduce them, but there's no way to eliminate them completely. Save wearing gloves.
 

Veezy

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Somebody had pain or drag in the abbductors region from doing sumo deadlifts or wide stance squats?

Yes.

This is due to one of two reasons:

1. Not doing proper mobility exercises after the lifts. The couch stretch will help, a lot.

2. You're too wide. Sumo deadlifts don't require a stance that much wider than a standard squat stance. The crazy wide stances are to reduce the ROM to make the weight have to move a smaller distance, but also require flexibility to get to that point. If you're not training to squat/DL five plates for a meet, bring your legs in a bit as to reduce the pressure on your hip flexors.

EDIT: This is not all inclusive. You could have an injury or something else may have hurt it, for example.
 

Cudder

Member
If you get calloused hands from pushing exercises like benching, I shudder to think what they look like after pulling exercises.

And after getting a whole bunch of averages from calorie calculators online, it seems that a 290 calorie average, for my body weight (215lbs) and 60 minute workout time is about right. I thought it would be way less.
 

sphinx

the piano man
I understand guys wanting calluses, I used to get some from pull-ups and was proud to have them.

however, I have an excuse since I am a pianist and need to keep my hands free of them so gloves and tapes will always remain my best option.
 

abuC

Member
I wear gloves, between basketball and lifting I've probably had at least 100 ripped callouses in the last 15 years of my life. They don't allow chalk at my gym, and even if I take care of the callouses they are still prone to ripping open.
 
Yes.

This is due to one of two reasons:

1. Not doing proper mobility exercises after the lifts. The couch stretch will help, a lot.

2. You're too wide. Sumo deadlifts don't require a stance that much wider than a standard squat stance. The crazy wide stances are to reduce the ROM to make the weight have to move a smaller distance, but also require flexibility to get to that point. If you're not training to squat/DL five plates for a meet, bring your legs in a bit as to reduce the pressure on your hip flexors.

EDIT: This is not all inclusive. You could have an injury or something else may have hurt it, for example.
Thanks I'll give it a try. Going to see a doc if it's still there after a week without squats and deadlifts.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
If you get calloused hands from pushing exercises like benching, I shudder to think what they look like after pulling exercises.

And after getting a whole bunch of averages from calorie calculators online, it seems that a 290 calorie average, for my body weight (215lbs) and 60 minute workout time is about right. I thought it would be way less.

I'm pretty sure I only get them from pulling. And my finger tips from playing guitar
 
Starting to wonder if its just not possible for me to gain past a certain amount of mass in my chest. My numbers are going up but I'm not seeing a visual difference.
 

abuC

Member
Starting to wonder if its just not possible for me to gain past a certain amount of mass in my chest. My numbers are going up but I'm not seeing a visual difference.

Eat more.

And take monthly pictures, you won't see the difference just looking in mirrors. In my mind I look the same, to people who haven't seen me in a while they say I look huge.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Alright, bulky 2013.

145 lbs 5' 7"... going from a low carb diet of 1200 kcal a day to high everything 4000 kcal a day. Let's see where I am 3 months from now.
 

nomis

Member
girls like rugged hands.

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And, no matter what kind of lifter you are, gloves are not a safe as chalk. If you're a heterosexual man and a woman is abject to being naked with you due to your callouses, the issues isn't your callouses.

Yeah, but you're inferring from what I said that "Having dry calloused hands means I won't get laid" when what I actually said is that no girl (I've been lucky enough to meet) would like being caressed by them very much. There's a large gulf between being "abject to being naked with you" and finding the touch of your skin non irritating.

ould try grabbing the barbell properly so you don't get callouses.

Outside of the rare occasion to gauge my strength progression, I work exclusively with dumbbells.
 

sphinx

the piano man
Outside of the rare occasion to gauge my strength progression, I work exclusively with dumbbells.

don't you ever have the need to work out with the barbell? I use mostly dumbbells now too but I am looking forward to go into regular bench press with barbell as soon as I get some confidence with weight and form.
 
Really fell off my grind with lifting over the summer. Looking to fix that.
Does anybody have a good athlete oriented routine.
If not I'll just restart stronglifts/5x5, but I would like to try something new especially if it will help with my sports.

I practice twice a week (Mon and Thurs) at 530am. At least a game on the weekend. I'll have to work extra hard to keep calorie intake up.


How does the program look on this? (right side 10 day stuff)
http://fortismag.com/hockeytraining.html
 

grumble

Member
Why is this so? this guy lifts pretty heavy just look at him, and he uses gloves:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HanhChampion/videos?view=0
I use gloves and I really want to get a decent answer, most people I ask just say its personal preference.

The answer is that it increases the diameter of your grip, which makes it harder to hold onto things. Having your strength limited by your grip in this way is bad, as it keeps you from hitting the muscle you want to hit. In certain movements it can also slightly damage form, such as the power clean.

Chalk is recommended because it strengthens your grip, allowing you to work the whole kinetic chain. Straps are not recommended, as they keep you from working on your grip at all.
 

Noema

Member
Why is this so? this guy lifts pretty heavy just look at him, and he uses gloves:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HanhChampion/videos?view=0
I use gloves and I really want to get a decent answer, most people I ask just say its personal preference.

Because they are another variable that it are introducing between you and the bar; because is a piece of loose cloth that makes the bar harder to grip and because they are totally unnecessary if you know what you are doing. There ARE ways to grip the bar to minimize callus formation.

It's like using the pussy pad when squatting. It gets in the way; it changes the mechanics of the movement; it's a liability and it's unnecessary. And it makes you look like a dickwad.
 

Mully

Member
I've noticed sometimes my form favorites one side during a lift for a rep or two before I realize and adjust. How do you guys prevent this?
 

Eidan

Member
Because they are another variable that it are introducing between you and the bar; because is a piece of loose cloth that makes the bar harder to grip and because they are totally unnecessary if you know what you are doing. There ARE ways to grip the bar to minimize callus formation.

It's like using the pussy pad when squatting. It gets in the way; it changes the mechanics of the movement; it's a liability and it's unnecessary. And it makes you look like a dickwad.

Hahaha jesus. Did your father die in a horrible glove factory fire or something?
 

Mully

Member
Hahaha jesus. Did your father die in a horrible glove factory fire or something?

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sphinx

the piano man
Is there anything that prevents people from becoming really flexible besides injury?, like splits flexible. Meaning as long as you do the right stretches every day eventually you will get there?

if by "eventually" you mean five years, then yes, you'll eventually get there.
 
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A More Normal Bird

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Really fell off my grind with lifting over the summer. Looking to fix that.
Does anybody have a good athlete oriented routine.
If not I'll just restart stronglifts/5x5, but I would like to try something new especially if it will help with my sports.

I practice twice a week (Mon and Thurs) at 530am. At least a game on the weekend. I'll have to work extra hard to keep calorie intake up.


How does the program look on this? (right side 10 day stuff)
http://fortismag.com/hockeytraining.html

Unless you're A) at an advanced level of strength and conditioning and B) competing at a high level in your sport, sport specific training is mostly pointless. The best thing you can do is focus on improving your strength and conditioning using tried and tested methods and practice your sport to get better at it. Trying to combine the two will only slow your progress. If strength training three times a week is too much when combined with the sport, consider dropping to 2 sessions a week.
 

Noema

Member
Really fell off my grind with lifting over the summer. Looking to fix that.
Does anybody have a good athlete oriented routine.
If not I'll just restart stronglifts/5x5, but I would like to try something new especially if it will help with my sports.

I practice twice a week (Mon and Thurs) at 530am. At least a game on the weekend. I'll have to work extra hard to keep calorie intake up.


How does the program look on this? (right side 10 day stuff)
http://fortismag.com/hockeytraining.html

That program has no strength component.

Here's Justin Lascek's Strength and Conditioning Routine. You could give this a shot:

http://70sbig.com/wp-content/uploads/files/Articles/Lascek_S&CP_v2.0.pdf
 
Because they are another variable that it are introducing between you and the bar; because is a piece of loose cloth that makes the bar harder to grip and because they are totally unnecessary if you know what you are doing. There ARE ways to grip the bar to minimize callus formation.

It's like using the pussy pad when squatting. It gets in the way; it changes the mechanics of the movement; it's a liability and it's unnecessary. And it makes you look like a dickwad.

I use one of those pads when squatting at the moment (or sometimes just my towel). You sir are a complete dickhead.
 

balddemon

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I use one of those pads when squatting at the moment (or sometimes just my towel). You sir are a complete dickhead.

lolol pussy pad and bar tampon are all I've ever heard it called. I would suggest making sure the bar is laying on your upperback muscles and that you are squeezing your shoulderblades together if you need the bar.
 
lolol pussy pad and bar tampon are all I've ever heard it called. I would suggest making sure the bar is laying on your upperback muscles and that you are squeezing your shoulderblades together if you need the bar.

I don't really see how using a towel or whatever really impacts the lift and i'm not a child so i don't really care what people call it. I have done squats without it and they didn't really feel that different if at all.
 
Unless you're A) at an advanced level of strength and conditioning and B) competing at a high level in your sport, sport specific training is mostly pointless. The best thing you can do is focus on improving your strength and conditioning using tried and tested methods and practice your sport to get better at it. Trying to combine the two will only slow your progress. If strength training three times a week is too much when combined with the sport, consider dropping to 2 sessions a week.

College is pretty high level, but that makes sense. I have to wait until Sunday when I go back to school though to get back on.
 

Sallokin

Member
Quick ? that I saw earlier in the thread but can't seem to find now. Is it a huge deal if I split my cardio and lifting days? I generally do ~30 - 40 mins after lifting but it's just not feasible with how many people are in the gym recently + work deadlines.
 

abuC

Member
Why is this so? this guy lifts pretty heavy just look at him, and he uses gloves:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HanhChampion/videos?view=0
I use gloves and I really want to get a decent answer, most people I ask just say its personal preference.

I lift heavy with gloves, just do what you feel comfortable with. I could see if you're trying to be a competitive powerlifter, then gloves would be an issue, but simply trying to get into shape and using them isn't a problem. The average person isn't really going to lift the type of weights where the gloves would become a problem.
 
For those of you who are familiar with/ have / had the problem of clearly visible 4 pack abs, but getting the last couple to show up at the bottom, what is the fix for this?
 
Posted a diet question the other day - didn't get any replies.

I've been doing keto 65%fat/35%protein/5% carb since October.

I was doing good losing fat, down from 230 to 205. Have added some muscle as well.

I've stalled lately and I'm not sure if I'm eating too few calories.

I have been eating about 1400 cals. I read a few articles talking about going back to your maintenance cal amount so this week I raised it to around 1800-2000.

Height: 6'
Weight: 205lb

I've been doing:

Monday:
Squat
Overhead Press
Deadlift

Friday:
Squat
Bench Press
Power Clean

Cardio every other day except Saturday. When I'm on the treadmill it says I've burned 200-250 cal. When I'm on the track I jog 2-3 miles.

Switching to a new lifting routine for the next 6 weeks with a buddy, its pretty much the same lifts above also adding rows, calf raises, front squats, snatch.... big variety of lifts.


Questions:

Should I just give up on fat loss for a bit and feed my muscles?

Should I stick with these keto ratios or should I go to a low fat/med carb/med protein diet? 10/50/40 or something like that?

Any help is appreciated!
 

Mully

Member
Posted a diet question the other day - didn't get any replies.

I've been doing keto 65%fat/35%protein/5% carb since October.

I was doing good losing fat, down from 230 to 205. Have added some muscle as well.

I've stalled lately and I'm not sure if I'm eating too few calories.

I have been eating about 1400 cals. I read a few articles talking about going back to your maintenance cal amount so this week I raised it to around 1800-2000.

Height: 6'
Weight: 205lb

I've been doing:

Monday:
Squat
Overhead Press
Deadlift

Friday:
Squat
Bench Press
Power Clean

Cardio every other day except Saturday. When I'm on the treadmill it says I've burned 200-250 cal. When I'm on the track I jog 2-3 miles.

Switching to a new lifting routine for the next 6 weeks with a buddy, its pretty much the same lifts above also adding rows, calf raises, front squats, snatch.... big variety of lifts.


Questions:

Should I just give up on fat loss for a bit and feed my muscles?

Should I stick with these keto ratios or should I go to a low fat/med carb/med protein diet? 10/50/40 or something like that?

Any help is appreciated!

Increase your protein, lessen the fat, add a little carbs.

Should look like 60%Protein, 20%Carb, 20%Fat.
 

DeadNames

Banned
Should I work on my abs even if the routine I'm following doesn't say anything about it? I was just thinking of doing a simple things like a 3x25 sit ups maybe with weights.
 

Veezy

que?
Your genetics are for a four pack. Welcome to the club. It is a club that also houses Arnold Schwarzenegger and Frank Zane, amongst many others.

Those two are bitches that do unfunctional body building and steroids. Anybody that desires to look like them doesn't know shit about training, hard work, or getting big and strong.
 

Mully

Member
Those two are bitches that do unfunctional body building and steroids. Anybody that desires to look like them doesn't know shit about training, hard work, or getting big and strong.

The guy is at 7% body fat, he's put in the work.
 
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