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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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DeadNames

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Five cookies... Damn I haven't splurged like this in ages. At least I had a nice 2 hour swim session to compensate.

And about leg raises... I was thinking I'd do 2xF? Or should I do 3x8 or something?
 

DR2K

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What's the concensus on thermogenics/fat burners? Got a sample of some and all it seems to do is curb my appetitie.
 

blackflag

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Yeah I haven't benched with a spotter in like 10 years. Pretty much every bench I've ever seen (outside of the super cheap home gym ones) has 2 sets of racks, if you can't get the weight all the way up there's no way you shouldn't be able to at least get it to the 1st set.

I've "failed" plenty of times but the first set of racks is pretty low and it's really not hard to get it there even if you're completely exhausted.

Yeah same here. I go to failure without a spotter. I just put it on the hooks. I guess it's technically possible that i couldn't even get it to the hooks but using incremental progression, it's not like I'd all of a sudden throw 50 lbs on the bar and screw myself.
 
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Deleted member 12837

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How often do you guys stretch (every morning, post-workout, etc), and for how long?

I want to start doing a lot more mobility work and improving my flexibility, but there are a ton of resources out there and a plethora of effective-looking stretches and mobility exercises. How do you choose which ones to incorporate?
 

Mully

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How often do you guys stretch (every morning, post-workout, etc), and for how long?

I want to start doing a lot more mobility work and improving my flexibility, but there are a ton of resources out there and a plethora of effective-looking stretches and mobility exercises. How do you choose which ones to incorporate?

Simple stretching. If you've ever played a sport for a season, you'll know that's all you need to do to become extremely flexible in six weeks.
 

Imm0rt4l

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What's the concensus on thermogenics/fat burners? Got a sample of some and all it seems to do is curb my appetitie.

This is the only thing it's good for in my opinion, appetite suppression, the increase in metabolism is miniscule. I hear good things about Yohimbine which is a vasodilate, but I haven't gotten around to trying it. I have very high stim tolerance for what it's worth.


How often do you guys stretch (every morning, post-workout, etc), and for how long?

I want to start doing a lot more mobility work and improving my flexibility, but there are a ton of resources out there and a plethora of effective-looking stretches and mobility exercises. How do you choose which ones to incorporate?


Not nearly as much as I should, though I have made the conscious effort to do dynamic stretches pre workout and static, post(on leg days in particular).
 

sphinx

the piano man
Simple stretching. If you've ever played a sport for a season, you'll know that's all you need to do to become extremely flexible in six weeks.

agreed on the bolded, no need for exhuberant, yoga positions but I don't think anyone can become extremely flexible in six weeks, unless I am misunderstanding your post and you mean something else.

Extreme flexibility, as in, do a full split or put yourself in a diver's "B Position" to the point that your nose touches your knees, will take its sweet, long ass time, possibly 1 or 2 years.
 

Cudder

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I think I'm going to go ahead and get started on taking creatine. Any suggestions as to what brands are good?

I've been hearing that monohydrate CreaPURE is the way to go.
 

Mully

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agreed on the bolded, no need for exhuberant, yoga positions but I don't think anyone can become extremely flexible in six weeks, unless I am misunderstanding your post and you mean something else.

Extreme flexibility, as in, do a full split or put yourself in a diver's "B Position" to the point that your nose touches your knees, will take its sweet, long ass time, posibly 1 or 2 years.

Splits are out of the question for sure, but five to six days of 30 minutes devoted to warming up, stretching, cooling down and stretching a week for six weeks will make you able to have your wrist touch your toes.
 

lenovox1

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Extreme flexibility, as in, do a full split or put yourself in a diver's "B Position" to the point that your nose touches your knees, will take its sweet, long ass time, possibly 1 or 2 years.

Oh, no, not at all. Everyone's body is different, but it's entirely possible to get into full splits in about 4-6 weeks if you stretch everyday for an hour a day. And for men, stretching our legs can be quite painful, but it's doable.
 

sphinx

the piano man
Splits are out of the question for sure, but five to six days 30 minutes devoted to warming up, stretching, cooling down and stretching a week for six weeks will make you able to have your wrist touch your toes.

oh, that's certainly possible, in fact that's more or less the time it took me to do exactly that.

Oh, no, not at all. Everyone's body is different, but it's entirely possible to get into full splits in about 4-6 weeks if you stretch everyday for an hour a day. And for men, stretching our legs can be quite painful, but it's doable.

yes, it varies a lot but I personally don't think that a guy above 25 with no flexibilty whatsoever who is starting to stretch will get a complete, full split in 4-6 weeks. It may be possible, there are people with some natural flexibility, but I won't believe it until I see it.
 

Doodis

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Guys, I'm looking at this Nike Fuel Band and I'm interested, but

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what would be the reason to choose it over an iPod Nano? They both cost $150. iPod Nano does...shit that iPods do. Music, radio, videos, photos, whatever, in addition to the same features the band does.

Other than wearing the band on the wrist (vs having to put a Nano in a pocket or on a clip somewhere), is there a compelling reason to go with the Fuel Band over the Nano? Seems like for the money, the Nano is a much more practical purchase. Especially for gym use, where I'm listening to music anyway. I can leave my iPhone in the car. idk.

I have a Nike Fuelband. In my mind, it's a watch first, and a calorie counter second. I do get a lot of comments on it just as being a cool watch. And like a previous poster said, you don't have to worry about clipping it somewhere. It's just always there.

But yeah, if you want all the other stuff that the Nano does, then you'll probably be disappointed if you get the Fuelband. By the way, the Nano doesn't count calories on it's own, does it? Don't you need to pair it with a Nike+ pod or something similar? So that's an additional cost there, if I'm correct.

EDIT: Okay, just checked and I didn't realize the Nano had an accelerometer. But the question remains - are you going to have it on you all day long?
 
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Splits are out of the question for sure, but five to six days of 30 minutes devoted to warming up, stretching, cooling down and stretching a week for six weeks will make you able to have your wrist touch your toes.

I'm not sure I would consider "wrist touch[ing] your toes" to be "extremely flexible". Without any extra mobility work at all I was** able to do that solely by stretching via the SS compound lifts, particularly deadlifts and squats.

Also, aren't toe-touches essentially just hamstring and lower back? I'm interested in the whole posterior chain (quads, hams, lower back, glutes, hips + hip flexors) plus my shoulders.

It sounds like stretching every day for about 30 min is a good idea, though, from everyone's comments. I'm thinking dynamic stretches + foam rolling every day, and static stretches post-workout on gym days? Does that sound right?


** I aggravated a back injury and took a few months off, just now coming back.
 

Mully

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You got it.

Toe touches were just an example, but leg grabs are good for quads, shoulder pulls are good for the shoulders and back.
 
Man, been hanging out with my beast of a bodybuilder buddy and he introduced me to the world of Chipolte. Was enjoyable and seemed healthy enough (in the bowl) minus the sodium. It took two bowls to even halfway fill us up though. What do you guys think?
 

Mully

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Man, been hanging out with my beast of a bodybuilder buddy and he introduced me to the world of Chipolte. Was enjoyable and seemed healthy enough (in the bowl) minus the sodium. It took two bowls to even halfway fill us up though. What do you guys think?

Add more guacamole.
 
Eat more food. 1,400 calories is low in itself, that combined with the fact that you're lifting and doing cardio makes it that much worst. There's no need to up your Carbs if you still want to lose weight, but if you do, make sure the bulk of the carbs are eaten in the meal directly after your workout.

The carbs after workout thing is almost impossible with my current schedule.

Wake up 530pm
Class 620pm-9pm
Work 11pm-7am
Workout 730am-830am
Sleep 10am-530pm
repeat

It's complete horse shit schedule and I'm trying to change jobs because of it. Very frustrating.

I guess I could stick with keto for a while longer, it is just tough to get the fat% each day.
 

balddemon

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So I didn't actually do what I said I would. way too sleepy after getting 4 hours sleep last night. ended up falling asleep during the KU game then went to the gym afterwards and had a great chest workout and finished up with some plyometric stuff that had me exhausted lol. I think it helps that my future gf was working out as well :p
 
So I've been having my first ever serious go at bulking, put on ~6kgs and feel good about it, even though it's easy to see that I've also gained some fat. However the girlie thought it would be nice to switch to a paleo diet, and it's really hard to keep up on such a diet - I've decided to scrap it until I start cutting, but does anybody have any advice to bulking on paleo or is it just a stupid concept to consider?
 

Imm0rt4l

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Man, been hanging out with my beast of a bodybuilder buddy and he introduced me to the world of Chipolte. Was enjoyable and seemed healthy enough (in the bowl) minus the sodium. It took two bowls to even halfway fill us up though. What do you guys think?

From my experience you can ask for extra rice or beans, no extra charge. Double meat is good, but costs.


I mostly only eat bowls, the last time I ate a burrito there I asked for it double wrapped, with cheese in the middle. Basically it was a quesodilla burrito.
 
Today I rested 7 minutes before my 3rd set of squats because I barely managed the second set after 4 minutes rest, is it too much?

SS says too much rest is better than too little so that's that.
 

despire

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Today I rested 7 minutes before my 3rd set of squats because I barely managed the second set after 4 minutes rest, is it too much?

SS says too much rest is better than too little so that's that.

When training for strength take as musch rest as you need. Though this doesn't mean half an hour.

5-10min rest between heavy sets is quite common. If resting 4min only gets you 4 out of 5 reps then it's better to rest few minutes more so you can get that last rep as well.
 
Anyone use wrist supports when benching and other pushing exercises?

My left wrist has been hurting a bit lately (outside part of the non-palm side) and I can only assume it's from benching/ weighted dips.

I don't bench a crazy amount or anything (220 x 10 @ ~175lbs) but I'm not sure if that matters or not.
 

kylej

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Anyone use wrist supports when benching and other pushing exercises?

My left wrist has been hurting a bit lately (outside part of the non-palm side) and I can only assume it's from benching/ weighted dips.

I don't bench a crazy amount or anything (220 x 10 @ ~175lbs) but I'm not sure if that matters or not.

Yes. They basically eliminated my wrist pain.
 

Dash27

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So I've been having my first ever serious go at bulking, put on ~6kgs and feel good about it, even though it's easy to see that I've also gained some fat. However the girlie thought it would be nice to switch to a paleo diet, and it's really hard to keep up on such a diet - I've decided to scrap it until I start cutting, but does anybody have any advice to bulking on paleo or is it just a stupid concept to consider?

I do paleo now, when i bulked doing Starting Strength I just ate a lot of everything. Clean bulking is kinda.. meh. It pulls you in two directions at once.

If anything I'd just add things like rice, sweet potatoes, oatmeal and full fat milk to your generic paleo/primal list of foods. Prioritize it. Rule 1 is eat enough. Rule 2 is eat enough. Rule 3 is try and stick to good quality food.

My 2 cents.
 

grumble

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I think I'm going to go ahead and get started on taking creatine. Any suggestions as to what brands are good?

I've been hearing that monohydrate CreaPURE is the way to go.

Any micronised creatine mono hydrate will do. I usually hear some water in the microwave, mix it in stirring until it's dissolved to clear, and add a splash of lemon. Very soothing and great absorption. Creatine is good to take, no downside unless you need to lose a touch of weight for a competition.
 
Any micronised creatine mono hydrate will do. I usually hear some water in the microwave, mix it in stirring until it's dissolved to clear, and add a splash of lemon. Very soothing and great absorption. Creatine is good to take, no downside unless you need to lose a touch of weight for a competition.

Yup, creatine is creatine. Buy the cheapest creatine mono hydrate you can find.

Take 5-10g everyday, drink lots of water, the end.
 

snoopen

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Very frustrating to have a poor workout followed by a bad night sleep. Did back / bi and struggled on every lift, particularly deadlift where I normally have 140kg as a working set.. Found 120 very difficult.

Went to bed at 11pm and didn't actually fall asleep till 3am.. So 4 hours sleep. Fuck.

Also, really disliking people standing in front of the mirrors at the gym. Hard to lift behind them when they're moving / flexing constantly..
 

otapnam

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Very frustrating to have a poor workout followed by a bad night sleep. Did back / bi and struggled on every lift, particularly deadlift where I normally have 140kg as a working set.. Found 120 very difficult.

Went to bed at 11pm and didn't actually fall asleep till 3am.. So 4 hours sleep. Fuck.

Also, really disliking people standing in front of the mirrors at the gym. Hard to lift behind them when they're moving / flexing constantly..

LOL. yeah i always try to find my only little happy space, just wait till next month when all the resolutionists stop going
 

grumble

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agreed on the bolded, no need for exhuberant, yoga positions but I don't think anyone can become extremely flexible in six weeks, unless I am misunderstanding your post and you mean something else.

Extreme flexibility, as in, do a full split or put yourself in a diver's "B Position" to the point that your nose touches your knees, will take its sweet, long ass time, possibly 1 or 2 years.

That may be true, but it's also probably not even good for you. That amount of joint mobility won't lead you anywhere good.
 

Mully

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Nearing the end of rehab on my torn hamstring.

For the first time in months, I started playing flag football with my team today. It felt like I was running faster than I did when I was playing soccer in college. Granted I was juking and sprinting past guys with beer bellies. Either way, strengthen your hamstrings to prevent muscle imbalance.
 

MrToughPants

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Anyone use wrist supports when benching and other pushing exercises?

My left wrist has been hurting a bit lately (outside part of the non-palm side) and I can only assume it's from benching/ weighted dips.

I don't bench a crazy amount or anything (220 x 10 @ ~175lbs) but I'm not sure if that matters or not.

You could try a suicide/thumbless grip. It fixed any wrist problems I ever had with pressing; it forces me to keep my wrist in-line with my forearms when pressing. It's really helpful on CGBP.

Wait, 40 in a row? That's solid.

Yea, sort of surprised since I've never really had access to a pullup bar... besides the floor joists (open floor) in the barn a few years ago.
 
Man, been hanging out with my beast of a bodybuilder buddy and he introduced me to the world of Chipolte. Was enjoyable and seemed healthy enough (in the bowl) minus the sodium. It took two bowls to even halfway fill us up though. What do you guys think?

Two bowls? My man, you don't know how to get the most out of your food there!

When they ask what kind of beans, say "a big scoop or two of pinto." Then say "Oh, can I get black beans too?" You shouldn't be walking away with less than 2 or more scoops of beans.

Do this for every step that they offer you a choice of one or the other for anything. Then, always ask for an extra scoop. Load that damn bowl up. They don't charge more for extra food and I've never had a problem personally doing this... and since they prepare it all right there, it'd be pretty obvious if they get mad at you and spit in it.
 

sphinx

the piano man
That may be true, but it's also probably not even good for you. That amount of joint mobility won't lead you anywhere good.

the topic at hand was "Extreme Flexibility" and how soon it can be reached. Whether doing extreme positions like the ones I mentioned are good or bad for the body, that's another story.


I feel bad watching this cause noone does things wrong on purpose.

For fuck's sake, there's a lady who is probably 50 years old trying to get in shape in there, I bet the mom of the guy doing the video sits on her fat ass all day watching tv, such a shithead.
 
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