While some things are legitimately funny in that clip, others aren't I agree. "Old" people just trying to get in form or people not lifting OM4gGZZHEAVY5/3/1 WEITHZ shouldn't be made fun of but whatever...
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While some things are legitimately funny in that clip, others aren't I agree. "Old" people just trying to get in form or people not lifting OM4gGZZHEAVY5/3/1 WEITHZ shouldn't be made fun of but whatever...
Not a fan.
He's making fun of guys for doing 15-20lb DB bicep curls. Who cares if they can't lift heavier weights? They'll either continue with the form until they learn, or drop the weight. No need to point and laugh.
parrotbeak
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I thought it was cuz the guy was standing right in front of the db rack, which is legit annoying, but then that caption came up.
Wolfe
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I saw that for the first time myself this Monday, guy was pretty big so it's not as though he was new to the place or anything, just looked pointless given all the db's they have for that.
On the note of curls in the squat rack what's your guys opinion on overhead press using the rack? I got used to doing that early on due to being able to rack the weight at chest level and also it's just easier dealing with a regular bar and small incremental weight as opposed to the set weight curl bars, wasn't sure if I was being a jerk and hogging the rack though
but those lat pulldowns at the end...omg
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hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
I saw that for the first time myself this Monday, guy was pretty big so it's not as though he was new to the place or anything, just looked pointless given all the db's they have for that.
On the note of curls in the squat rack what's your guys opinion on overhead press using the rack? I got used to doing that early on due to being able to rack the weight at chest level and also it's just easier dealing with a regular bar and small incremental weight as opposed to the set weight curl bars, wasn't sure if I was being a jerk and hogging the rack though
I think I might start using the squat rack for overhead presses. Our fixed weight bars are those weird curly bars that can get annoying to grip properly.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Some people are douchebags.
Yeah they're all doing some bad form or another and it's funny for a moment, but they're just making for of ignorance.
The only consistently funny thing in that video is the squat rack hogs.
It just seems so uncalled for.
But some of those things (curls/pushups in the squat rack, weird ass lat pulldowns) are just plain odd and I can see where those people are coming from.
But maybe the guy filming could just tell the people that they're doing the thing wrong. God damn.
parrotbeak
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I think it is fine and have never had anyone complain. A guy complained about me using the rack to deadlift when there were no other bars or designated space for it, but no one has ever said anything about me OHPing.On the note of curls in the squat rack what's your guys opinion on overhead press using the rack? I got used to doing that early on due to being able to rack the weight at chest level and also it's just easier dealing with a regular bar and small incremental weight as opposed to the set weight curl bars, wasn't sure if I was being a jerk and hogging the rack though
The set weight bars only go up to 100 or so at my gym.
not to mention, nobody begins having a perfect form on any exercise, it takes some time to reach that.
And that applies to almost every single move in the book, from Barbell BP to dips to crunches, anything, there will always be stuff to improve the first couple of sessions doing them.
If those guys are responsible, they'll continue searching and comparing their form to a tutorial video and look for inconsistencies, or maybe a trainer will correct them but to be laughed at in the process is lame.
And that applies to almost every single move in the book, from Barbell BP to dips to crunches, anything, there will always be stuff to improve the first couple of sessions doing them.
If those guys are responsible, they'll continue searching and comparing their form to a tutorial video and look for inconsistencies, or maybe a trainer will correct them but to be laughed at in the process is lame.
Wolfe
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Yeah I think they go up to 110 at the gym I go to but it hadn't crossed my mind yet since I'm only at 80 pounds on my OHP atm.
As for my question I figured it wouldn't be an issue really but wanted to double check since it annoys me when people do other dumb shit like leaving weights on the bars on multiple stations or not wiping their sweaty butt stain off the bench etc etc.
Exactly, If I do bicep curls I use lower weight as well sometimes. I think some people just think that everyone should be able to lift a certain amount of weight or fit into a certain "mold" just because everyone is apparently the same. I am 34 years old and my body is so, well it's hard to explain, but it's just used and abused and has had seen it's mileage. From injuries to overuse and just the years of playing sports and training, I just can't handle trying to lift super heavy weights anymore. I look like I could move a ton of weight but the joints, muscles, and everything tells me otherwise.
Might I add, how about instead of having to be considered "that guy" at the gym who may need some help on lifts(just plain stupid and/or not open to advice is different) people stop being "that guy" who makes fun of what others do? Video taping it and posting it online or posting on forums is much worse. Too bad it's just too common. I wish people would be more open to helping others at the gym and of course I wish more people would be open to accepting or looking for help.
He's making fun of really unbelievably poor form and lack of education. I do agree he should help rather than make fun of people but most people are really unreceptive to help.
Yea fun to make fun of people instead of offering help.
Saturdays cheat meal is going to be glorious. This place in Philly has crazy burgers. I think I'll get the Philly cheesesteak pretzel burger. A burger patty with steak and cheese whiz on a pretzel bun. They also have adult milkshakes. Going for the one with actual cake in it and vanilla vodka.
What kind of back injury is it? Ever read Dr. McGill ? Flexibility is not usually helpful to healthy or injured backs. According to his research, flexible spines are more prone to injury. He recommends focusing on strengthening.
You wanna know what the worst fucking thing in the world is? Charlie Horses that cramp up because you did Squats then an Agility class and then you are dehydrated and then go play basketball and some dumb fuck that can't guard you sticks his knee out and then you can't walk. Because you start seeing stars and stupid shit. Sucks ass. Now I can't walk very well. It was fine after I stretched and started playing and got warmed up, but now I'm cold and chillin at the gym I can barely walk.
mayo and tabasco and some seasonings like onion salt, garlic salt, etc.
if you dont want mayo then idk what to tell you.
That would require actual effort.
daemissary
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I either mix with mustard and onions or I mix with roasted red pepper hummus. Both are pretty solid.
Think about your goals. I never really understand why people need to change the taste of foods. I don't like some foods, ie cottage cheese but eat it to help my my macros.
parrotbeak
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Mix it with avocado. Also make it canned salmon.
Spiritreaver
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Cook it?
1. By the pouched stuff.
2. Season it.
3. Add some tasty veggies or cheese.
4. Put it in the microwave.
5. Eat.
Or you can actually get creative and cook it, lol.
Then there wouldn't be funny shit to throw up on youtubes.
But fucking jesus at pushups in a squat rack.
youtube comments said:
Found these RPT templates on Reddit. Thought they might be useful --
RPT Split 1- Legs/Biceps, Chest/Shoulder, Back/Triceps
RPT Split 2- Legs/Shoulders, Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps
RPT Split 3- Legs/Shoulders, Chest/Biceps, Back/Triceps
If you don't know what RPT is, give this a read - http://stormtricks.com/en/how-to-use-reverse-pyramid-training/
RPT Split 1- Legs/Biceps, Chest/Shoulder, Back/Triceps
RPT Split 2- Legs/Shoulders, Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps
RPT Split 3- Legs/Shoulders, Chest/Biceps, Back/Triceps
If you don't know what RPT is, give this a read - http://stormtricks.com/en/how-to-use-reverse-pyramid-training/
Captain Knutsman
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Nice advice, think I'll stick to that - basicly I'm just eating and being hungry all the time, think cutting will be hard
I used to add mayo to my tuna until I found this.
Works great as a mayo substitute. For lunch I'm mixing a can of tuna, 4 tbsp of the salmon spread and 4 hardboiled eggs together. I'll probably throw a little sriracha on top.
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Anyone have the Jawbone Up? My fiancé and I are thinking of each getting one. I'm going between that or a fuel band, but I like the look of e jawbone more and the sleep settings. Although I wish I synced wirelessly.
Works great as a mayo substitute. For lunch I'm mixing a can of tuna, 4 tbsp of the salmon spread and 4 hardboiled eggs together. I'll probably throw a little sriracha on top.
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Anyone have the Jawbone Up? My fiancé and I are thinking of each getting one. I'm going between that or a fuel band, but I like the look of e jawbone more and the sleep settings. Although I wish I synced wirelessly.
I was going to say that I've been lucky in my gym, in that no one has ever used the squat rack to curl.
But like clockwork last night, right when I finished my squats, two guys walk in, head straight to the rack, and begin working dem biceps. I practically started doing the Ron Paul "IT'S HAPPENING!" gesture.
HisshouBuraiKen
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Tested squat 1RM last night.
5x135
5x165
3x195
2x225
1x265
1x295
1x315 (3RM)
1x335 (Calculated 1RM)
1x350 (One knee swung in at the bottom but I pushed it back out and got it up)
350! I'm pleased. Very pleased. And tired today.
I will admit that one time, when absolutely NO ONE was there, I curled in the squat rack. Felt naughty.
5x135
5x165
3x195
2x225
1x265
1x295
1x315 (3RM)
1x335 (Calculated 1RM)
1x350 (One knee swung in at the bottom but I pushed it back out and got it up)
350! I'm pleased. Very pleased. And tired today.
I will admit that one time, when absolutely NO ONE was there, I curled in the squat rack. Felt naughty.
Hello people I have a small question, didn't find the answer in the op.
When I go to the gym instead of doing three sets of something, then three sets of something else and so forth I tend to do 2 or three exercises in parallel. For example instead of doing three sets of pull-ups and then three sets of chest press for example, I'll alternate between the two and do one set of each at a time.
I guess I do that because of P90x, does anyone know if this is good/bad/doesn't change anything? It feels like I can do more reps/weight this way. Also another question I'm looking at the routine in the op and it seems strange to me that there is so few exercises. I mean I understand that the aim is to do bigger weights with less reps but there is no way for me to completely "finish myself" with 3 sets of pull-ups. I'll do three sets of pull-ups then move to something else and maybe 20/30 minutes later I feel like I can do another 3 very correct sets of pull-ups again, despite going all-in the first time. Is the second series useless? I feel kind of guilty not doing it since I know I can do it no problem.
When I go to the gym instead of doing three sets of something, then three sets of something else and so forth I tend to do 2 or three exercises in parallel. For example instead of doing three sets of pull-ups and then three sets of chest press for example, I'll alternate between the two and do one set of each at a time.
I guess I do that because of P90x, does anyone know if this is good/bad/doesn't change anything? It feels like I can do more reps/weight this way. Also another question I'm looking at the routine in the op and it seems strange to me that there is so few exercises. I mean I understand that the aim is to do bigger weights with less reps but there is no way for me to completely "finish myself" with 3 sets of pull-ups. I'll do three sets of pull-ups then move to something else and maybe 20/30 minutes later I feel like I can do another 3 very correct sets of pull-ups again, despite going all-in the first time. Is the second series useless? I feel kind of guilty not doing it since I know I can do it no problem.
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Herniated disk when I was 18 (6 years ago). I had surgery on it about 9 months later, rehabbed back to pre-injury form and haven't really had issues since (2 times I've aggrevated the scar tissue, rested for about 4-6 weeks and fully recovered).
Flexibility anywhere isn't helpful to healthy or injured backs, or just lower back flexibility? I don't think I do any targeted lower back flexibility work (other than some PT during the 2 aforementioned recovery periods). It's been mainly hips, glutes and hamstrings.
Any recommendations on where to start with McGill?
entremet
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Good questions.
You're doing bodyweight exercises in a circuit. That's what P90x does, a form of circuit training, which along with strength builds endurance. Meaning your ability to do more pushups, sit ups, etc.
But it all depends on your goals. If you're looking for general fitness and to get a nice burn. Circuit training will fit that need.
Regarding the OP program. For strength gains, which is the purpose of the OP Program, it has been known, though years of practice by coaches, athletes, sports doctors, and research, that building a base of strength is best done in the 4-6 rep range, which the OP Program recommends.
You are doing heavy compound movements, learning form, educating your central nervous system in the big lifts. Trust me it is enough volume for a beginner. Remember, you're also adding weight to each workout and you should be eating in a caloric surplus, again as a beginner. And this is if your goal is to build strength. You are not doing these to failure.
Always assess your goals first.
Thanks for the answer.
So if I understand all of this correctly, circuit training is good for a balance between strength and endurance, but not ideal if I mainly want strength? And adding more sets is not completely useless, but will help more with endurance than pure strength, and I should gain enough due to beginner gains anyway? There is more risk of injury too I guess. Maybe I should try to do weighted pull-ups for example?
Only thing I don't really understand is why I don't want to do them to failure? I thought that was always better? When I can I mean obviously I'll try not to get crushed by the bar doing squats or anything.
According to this little summary of Dr. McGill's thoughts in a PT publication, the takeaway isn't that a more flexible back is more prone to injury, it's that the root of your back pain probably doesn't have much to do with your back directly.
As you've found out through your sessions with a physical therapist, that's a pretty commonly held thought. That short article has a link to his website, which probably selves into the nuances of his philosophy a bit better.
Chittagong
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Hit the gym 4 times this week after being sick and on the road for a month.
Dat DOMS.
Every single muscle, legs, biceps, triceps, lats, pecs... Need to roll around to get up from sofa.
I think I will try spinning tomorrow to flush the system.
Dat DOMS.
Every single muscle, legs, biceps, triceps, lats, pecs... Need to roll around to get up from sofa.
I think I will try spinning tomorrow to flush the system.
When people train to failure it's mostly for hypertrophy (gaining size) with a rep range of 8-12. When he is saying that you shouldn't train to failure it doesn't mean it isn't heavy though. If you have to do 5 reps, it must be impossible to do the sixth (the sixth rep would have been the rep where you failed), and if in the third set you feel that you are going to fail in the fifth rep, stop at four. The rest between sets should also be a little longer than when aiming for hypertrophy, 2-3 min instead of 45 sek-1min.
Regarding your question about pull ups: yes, you could easily add on some weight if pull ups are that easy for you. Now, since you say you are a beginner, there is no rush to go straight to heavy low-rep training right away. Regular hypertrophy training will give you both strength and size to begin with, you will also be able to learn the techniques correctly without injuring yourself with bad form and heavy weights.
parrotbeak
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For me it is a mental thing. When you lift regularly, you'll know the feeling when it seems like you don't have another rep in. If you try anyway and fail, you'll get used to that feeling of failing and it will seem normal. You want it in your head that every rep will succeed. That's how you get up those last reps that slowed down halfway, cuz mentally you are just going to get it up.
Lol i know the joke but i've never seen it at the 24 i goto. Theres alot of regulars that use the squat rack and rage cage for legit use so there isnt alot of opportunity for that to happen.
Khalifa Jayy
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I'm looking for a decent tasting protein with a great profile that doesn't cost an insane amount. What are you guys taking and what do you recommend? I've heard a lot of good things about Trutein. Anyone here on that? I'm thinking a chocolate flavor this time around, but def open to suggestions.
Yeah, never seen it either. There's a guy who does bent over rows in the squat rack here though. He uses quite heavy weights, so in a way I understand he needs the rack, but he's the kind of guy who thinks he's the center of the universe, asking people over and over if they have finished their squats so he can do his rows.
TheDarkStark
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I just found out that a local shop clearances out "expired" protein for 1/2 price or less. So I just got 9 pound of Syntha-6 for $55 (including tax) simply because it "expired" in December.
Anyone will tell you that expiration dates on non-perishable foods are complete and utter BS. They're more of a "use by" suggestion because the flavor can start to degrade slightly.
If you've got a local supplement shop I'd suggest checking them out maybe they do the same thing.
Milk diet. Drink a gallon of milk a day.
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