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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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PBY

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He is pretty good at encouraging me and pushing me, and going to the gym is still pretty boring if I'm going to be honest.
He is trying to be helpful, and if it wasn't for him trying to show me new techniques on a weekly basis there'd be no problem.
That's all fine and good... But at this stage for you sticking STRCTLY to your linear program is imperative
 

SeanR1221

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He is pretty good at encouraging me and pushing me, and going to the gym is still pretty boring if I'm going to be honest.
He is trying to be helpful, and if it wasn't for him trying to show me new techniques on a weekly basis there'd be no problem.



I have no idea how to explain it in words, but I am pretty sure it's nonsense. It's nothing I've ever encountered in decent guides.

I'd say this is your first challenge. If you're not there because you really want to be, it's going to be that much harder to push yourself. It can become very easy to fall back on training, and if you're relying on someone else for an additional push to get you there, you could lose interest fast.

I guess a good starting question is what are your goals and why are they your goals?
 

entremet

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Doing an olympic weightlifting meet at my gym next month and the guy running it just posted some videos of a couple girls that are coming to compete. Both weigh ~130lbs and they both clean and jerked 205lbs. Fuck my life.

I've love to do those technical lifts, but I would need to be coached first as they are highly technical and I have no experience and my gym doesn't have an Oly platform or bumper plates.
 
Look up the starr rehab protocol.
will do. Thanks man.

It depends on how "injured" your "injured" is. I wouldn't put weight on it or foam roll it. Leg extensions might work, just to get a bit of something in. Honestly though, just working down into being able to air squat without too much pain will probably be your goal over the next few weeks.
well its not too bad. I can still bend it and do some air squats but I do feel some discomfort. Its not really bad pain, but I definitely feel it. It feels like a cramp when I bend my knee.
 

f0nz0

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My boy is at it again. 225lb weighted dips for reps, 270lb 1 rep max.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA64VwMnwxg

I know a few people in here turn their nose up at this type of stuff, but fuck that; this guy is impressive, lol. His whole mindset inspires me more than any other training partner I've ever had.

Im convinced some people can just access their inner hulk gene without the need of adrenaline.... I am not one of them :(
 

Petrie

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My boy is at it again. 225lb weighted dips for reps, 270lb 1 rep max.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA64VwMnwxg

I know a few people in here turn their nose up at this type of stuff, but fuck that; this guy is impressive, lol. His whole mindset inspires me more than any other training partner I've ever had.

You are mistaking "turning your nose up" for what is in fact people disliking less safe training methods. People here tend to be all about the greatest results with the least amount of risk. That's being responsible.

He could get the same muscular results with much less risk. That's where people's issue comes from.
 
Im convinced some people can just access their inner hulk gene without the need of adrenaline.... I am not one of them :(

Me neither, lol. He walks on his hands better than I walk normally. This guy got shot in the collarbone with a piece of metal at work a month ago, yet he's already back and stronger than before.
 

Imm0rt4l

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that's impressive, but I wouldn't do it, no point in it for me. I'll go as high as 135 because I can rep that for at least 10. Weighted dips are relatively dangerous when it comes to heavier weights, but that's a cool feat...I guess.
 
You are mistaking "turning your nose up" for what is in fact people disliking less safe training methods. People here tend to be all about the greatest results with the least amount of risk. That's being responsible.

He could get the same muscular results with much less risk. That's where people's issue comes from.

He is clearly doing something well within his capacity to do. Obviously this won't be for everyone, and he's not the only one I've seen doing dips like that. I know you guys like to break things down scientifically and all that, but sometimes people can just do shit that others can't.
 

th3dude

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Started working out at LA Boxing last weekend. Went to 4 classes this week. Feels good to be active again. My desk job and lack of exercise were really starting to take their toll.

Any advice on how to keep at it and start losing some weight? Trying to eat better too.

Anyone work out there before?
 

Petrie

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He is clearly doing something well within his capacity to do. Obviously this won't be for everyone, and he's not the only one I've seen doing dips like that. I know you guys like to break things down scientifically and all that, but sometimes people can just do shit that others can't.

Being within one's capacity does not make something responsible or safe. He is lucky to not have a serious injury yet. You seem to make the mistake of assuming that just because he's been alright thus far means he isn't doing something dangerous: this is a false assumption.

People do lots of dangerous things and don't hurt themselves, that doesn't mean they won't in the future, it just means they've been lucky thus far.

"Can" does not mean "should".
 
I think people underestimate how easy it is to gain weight with a simple linear progression like SS and eating right.

I went from 160lb to 215lb in less than two years doing only the compound lifts and some arm work here and there.

You look a lot more badass now.

Yup. It's pretty easy to put on size in the beginning.

Left is me pre strong lifts. "I wanna get toned derp!"

Right is me a few minutes ago.

On the left I barely filled out a medium sized shirt. On the right I'm wearing a large.

Nice work man.

Ugh, I am trying to do a three-day routine based around heavy lifts such as dead lifts, squats, and bench. The problem is that I often go to the gym with a buddy, who comes up with the weirdest fucking routines ~_~
Like doing half-complete bicep curls that "activate different portions of the bicep" instead of complete movements.

This is what my friend does. He does 8 full bicep curls, 8 "bottom-half curls" and 8 "top-half curls". I feel like just doing only full curls would be more beneficial right? And definitely less reps, more weight. When I first started going to the gym (which was only basically a month ago) I just copied whatever he did before I stopped messing around and got onto SS and compound exercises.


I'd say this is your first challenge. If you're not there because you really want to be, it's going to be that much harder to push yourself. It can become very easy to fall back on training, and if you're relying on someone else for an additional push to get you there, you could lose interest fast.

I guess a good starting question is what are your goals and why are they your goals?

This is so true. I finally got around to going to the gym just now and probably wouldn't have started if my friend didn't go. Wrongly felt gyms were a bit intimidating and didn't like the idea of going by myself when I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

But I've become sick of my friend's broscience and general misinformed and misguided nature. While I don't know fully what I'm on about yet, he doesn't listen anyway. Plus when we would go together he would go at all different times of day and when I asked to go it was always 'nah later', so damn aggravating. Talks too much at the gym too.

Now I go by myself to a different gym and I'm not going to stop just because I don't have a training partner. He might though lul
I relish the gym now.
 
Being within one's capacity does not make something responsible or safe. He is lucky to not have a serious injury yet. You seem to make the mistake of assuming that just because he's been alright thus far means he isn't doing something dangerous: this is a false assumption.

People do lots of dangerous things and don't hurt themselves, that doesn't mean they won't in the future, it just means they've been lucky thus far.

"Can" does not mean "should".

Doing any type of lift with heavy weight is dangerous, if you don't do it properly. Weighted dips have been around forever, nothing new; and this guy's shoulder strength is off the charts from all the other training he has done. He has developed the necessary strength to perform this exercise at that level; that's like saying a guy is lucky to not get hurt curling a heavy weight. If he has developed the strength to perform the move, how is he "lucky"?
 
There was this guy at the gym tonight who was just walking around acting like Ronnie Coleman. Just screaming yeah buddy!, whooo, or light weight!.

It was weird because he was being serious not just joking or anything.
 

zoukka

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There was this guy at the gym tonight who was just walking around acting like Ronnie Coleman. Just screaming yeah buddy!, whooo, or light weight!.

It was weird because he was being serious not just joking or anything.

You meet many strange people in public places yes.
 

theytookourjobz

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You are mistaking "turning your nose up" for what is in fact people disliking less safe training methods. People here tend to be all about the greatest results with the least amount of risk. That's being responsible.

He could get the same muscular results with much less risk. That's where people's issue comes from.

Maybe he's not going for "muscular results."
 

BadTaste

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This came in the post today, very excited to use it :p

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andycapps

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Celebrated my 30th over the weekend, and was able to get this set for a steal.. Paid $250 for it on Craigslist, I didn't actually look at the asking price until later but he was asking $400. But the guy I bought it from was loaded and was getting rid of everything because he's a country club member, and has a gym membership so his wife wanted everything out of the house. Was selling a sled for $75, an elliptical, trap bar, etc.

He actually said it was formerly used by the local arena league football team, when they existed. Said the bench was $350 alone when he bought it, not sure about the squat rack, but it's pretty substantial steel. Thoughts?

 

otapnam

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Celebrated my 30th over the weekend, and was able to get this set for a steal.. Paid $250 for it on Craigslist, I didn't actually look at the asking price until later but he was asking $400. But the guy I bought it from was loaded and was getting rid of everything because he's a country club member, and has a gym membership so his wife wanted everything out of the house. Was selling a sled for $75, an elliptical, trap bar, etc.

He actually said it was formerly used by the local arena league football team, when they existed. Said the bench was $350 alone when he bought it, not sure about the squat rack, but it's pretty substantial steel. Thoughts?

Mega score!

Edit: dont usually see racks like that, but it looks strong and since it has the pins at every level youll save time by not having to adjust between workouts.


Itll be easier to save yourself when u fail too.... Haha
 

Petrie

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Maybe he's not going for "muscular results."

Alright. That's fine. But at the end of the day he is training in a much less safe manner, which was the point. If he's enjoying what he's doing, good for him. Much like football players who love the game and know what their bodies will be like later, he's still free to do so.
 

andycapps

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Mega score!

Edit: dont usually see racks like that, but it looks strong and since it has the pins at every level youll save time by not having to adjust between workouts.


Itll be easier to save yourself when u fail too.... Haha

It actually has safety spotter bar type things that you can mount at whatever level you want. I don't know what they're actually called. But yes, I love that it has hooks so I don't have to adjust arms up and down all the time.
 

theytookourjobz

Junior Member
Alright. That's fine. But at the end of the day he is training in a much less safe manner, which was the point. If he's enjoying what he's doing, good for him. Much like football players who love the game and know what their bodies will be like later, he's still free to do so.

Doing weighted dips with proper form is not even in the same universe as the punishment football players take. Obviously the risk of injury is greater leaving your house as opposed to sitting on the couch your whole life.
 

CrankyJay

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Alright. That's fine. But at the end of the day he is training in a much less safe manner, which was the point. If he's enjoying what he's doing, good for him. Much like football players who love the game and know what their bodies will be like later, he's still free to do so.

What's he doing that you consider dangerous? Excessive weight?
 

Gintamen

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I think people underestimate how easy it is to gain weight with a simple linear progression like SS and eating right.

I went from 160lb to 215lb in less than two years doing only the compound lifts and some arm work here and there.
No leg photo? :( Would like to know how much of those 25kg added are in your lower half.
 

Zoe

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This is what my friend does. He does 8 full bicep curls, 8 "bottom-half curls" and 8 "top-half curls". I feel like just doing only full curls would be more beneficial right? And definitely less reps, more weight. When I first started going to the gym (which was only basically a month ago) I just copied whatever he did before I stopped messing around and got onto SS and compound exercises.

Maybe they prefer having the extra control? Some people are prone to swinging their bodies when doing the full movement.
 

CrankyJay

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This is what my friend does. He does 8 full bicep curls, 8 "bottom-half curls" and 8 "top-half curls". I feel like just doing only full curls would be more beneficial right? And definitely less reps, more weight. When I first started going to the gym (which was only basically a month ago) I just copied whatever he did before I stopped messing around and got onto SS and compound exercises.

I used to do these when I didn't know what I was doing...but at 7 reps. We'd call them 21's.
 

abuC

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This is what my friend does. He does 8 full bicep curls, 8 "bottom-half curls" and 8 "top-half curls". I feel like just doing only full curls would be more beneficial right? And definitely less reps, more weight. When I first started going to the gym (which was only basically a month ago) I just copied whatever he did before I stopped messing around and got onto SS and compound exercises.



I do 21s, which is basically the same thing your friend is doing, he just added an extra rep. They work really well and save time, I do 3 sets of 21s for my biceps to finish up my routine and I've had some great growth in my arms since the summer.
 
I do 21s, which is basically the same thing your friend is doing, he just added an extra rep. They work really well and save time, I do 3 sets of 21s for my biceps to finish up my routine and I've had some great growth in my arms since the summer.

So they are legit?
 

CrankyJay

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Apparently the people who 8's call them "crazy eights", lol

Honestly, they seem like a "bro-science" lift to me, but I could be wrong. Why not go for the full range of motion? I think all your'e doing is just fatiguing your forearm and bicep without really working the bicep to it's maximum potential. Just my opinion.
 

entremet

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I saw a dude who matched similar proportions at my gym. Ridiculous upper body, but matchsticks for legs. People are so afraid of leg training.
 

Cagey

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Apparently the people who 8's call them "crazy eights", lol

Honestly, they seem like a "bro-science" lift to me, but I could be wrong. Why not go for the full range of motion? I think all your'e doing is just fatiguing your forearm and bicep without really working the bicep to it's maximum potential. Just my opinion.

It creates a rather nasty pump, and that creates the illusion of greater effectiveness.
 

Cagey

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You should see all the people in my gym that aren't, but then do quarter or half squats.

One of the guys at my gym looks like the cartoon picture, and does quarter squats with a 110 lb barbell + medium weight leg extensions as his leg day... I just don't even understand why someone would bother.
 
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