I have tried it once and didn't really like it. the chalk didn't really stick to the bar or my hands. it's very possible I just didn't get enough of it. my buddy uses it though and he loves it. just keep the chalk inside your bag at all times and keep your bag under the bar if you're wiping the bar down with it.
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I have tried it once and didn't really like it. the chalk didn't really stick to the bar or my hands. it's very possible I just didn't get enough of it. my buddy uses it though and he loves it. just keep the chalk inside your bag at all times and keep your bag under the bar if you're wiping the bar down with it.
Hollo, I thought I read the knees could go over the feet a little, as long as they are tracking on the same angle but I could be wrong.
Appreciate the link, Veesy. I think I'll save up and get the nikes. Definitely a worthy investment.
Should I stick to barefoot for deads?
Appreciate the link, Veesy. I think I'll save up and get the nikes. Definitely a worthy investment.
Should I stick to barefoot for deads?
IronBubbles
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This. If you're going for Adidas go for the Power Perfect II (mid-range model) or the Adipowers (high-end model). I've got the Adidas Adistar (the predecessor to the Adipower) and they're amazing. The lateral stability is not even comparable to chucks and the heel helps with basically any lift except deadlifts.
Lastly, don't go for the Powerlifts, they're more aimed at Crossfit than weightlifting.
Once you get the shoes, you'll have to slightly adjust your pull on deads, but keep them on. Since your femur at a more acute angle, it'll feel different at first, but the adjustment will be for the better as it'll help with your olymic/power cleans/snatches. Even if you never plan to do those, there's no reason to ever lift without the shoes as they don't hurt the lift.
HollovVpo1nt
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Sure. But from the camera angle it looks like the knees go over the feet more than they should. I'm still a n00b so I'm probably wrong.
IronBubbles
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Awesome stuff! What 5/3/1 setup are you using?
Dark Stalkers
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He looks like The Thing.
Wednesday
OHP (warmup and working sets)
BBB OHP
T-Rows 5X10
Incline Bench 5X10
Thursday
Deadlifts (warmup and working sets)
BBB DL
Lat Pulls 5X10
Shrugs 5X10
Leg Press 5X10
Saturday
Bench (warmup and working sets)
BBB Bench
BB Rows 5X10
Dips 5X8
DB Rows 5X10
Monday
Squats (warmup and working sets)
BBB Squats
Leg Curls 5X10
BB Curls 5X10
CG Bench Press 5X10
Pullups
I do HIIT on Bench day and the day after Squats. I also try to do a long distance day three times a cycle the day after deadlifts.
parrotbeak
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That's interesting cuz I tried to jump rope a couple years ago and got sharp pains in my back. I think jumping is completely out for me.
I think doing OHP and bench regularly has really helped my back slowly recover. Hiking a lot has helped too. It's been 5 years since surgery and I'm doing sumo DLs for 10 rep sets regularly and without any problems. It's just about being patient and slowly getting better.
This Kai Greene video was mind-opening to me, since I've never been into bbing and never thought about the difference between that and weightlifting, other than the surface differences in the types of workouts.
Watch all of the Train with Kai videos on youtube. All of them. All. Of. Them.
Edit: And it was that exact video (train arms with kai) that made me much more conscious of how I do my curls now. I'll go as low as 15lbs like the dude did in the video and have no shame, because I know I'm doing it properly.
Please tell me you didn't squat with gloves
Can I get a form check on this 225 squat guys?
http://youtu.be/veFTiwNPIxU
You need to drive with your chest more on the way up, since you are doing high bar.
They are supposed to go over the feet in high bar squats.
Smh, the day I get back from a week off, my gym has turned into the lolzgym. I really hope it's just because of Presidents day, it was packed and even had some little ass kids doing one of these numbers
on the upside, my cut is going really slow but I've hit 200 ~12%bf goal is to hit 185.
on the upside, my cut is going really slow but I've hit 200 ~12%bf goal is to hit 185.
I'm thinking about giving Crossfit a go and I have a few questions.
I hear some good things and a lot of bad things about Crossfit in general.
My real interest is in doing compound lifts, but from what I hear the focus is more on reps & weight rather than form. I've had proper training in compound lifts and have no interest in rushing, so am I able to do the lifts at my own pace or will I be too slow for the rest of the group? Are they generally supportive towards beginners? I know this may be different across the board but just want an idea. The gym near me expects you to pay $150 for four sessions just for the introduction, hence the reason I am asking questions rather than just checking it out for myself. Also, I am not really interested in training til I collapse and being in pain for days after. I notice some over-enthusiastic crossfitters promote this sort of training but I'm not really into it, is it encouraged by the trainers?
I hear some good things and a lot of bad things about Crossfit in general.
My real interest is in doing compound lifts, but from what I hear the focus is more on reps & weight rather than form. I've had proper training in compound lifts and have no interest in rushing, so am I able to do the lifts at my own pace or will I be too slow for the rest of the group? Are they generally supportive towards beginners? I know this may be different across the board but just want an idea. The gym near me expects you to pay $150 for four sessions just for the introduction, hence the reason I am asking questions rather than just checking it out for myself. Also, I am not really interested in training til I collapse and being in pain for days after. I notice some over-enthusiastic crossfitters promote this sort of training but I'm not really into it, is it encouraged by the trainers?
If your real interest is doing the compound lifts, then why not just do a strength program that works around the compound lifts?
Paying $150 for 4 sessions sounds insane to me. I don't know much about crossfit, but I do know that the programming that comes "from the mothership" tends to be mind-boggingly random, haphazard and even imprudent.
I suppose that some Crossfit boxes have good, sensible trainers who have a more conservative, goal oriented approach to programming and who understand the value of strength training as the basis of fitness, but those boxes are good in spite of Crossfit, not because of it and then it becomes a question of why should anyone bother with Crossfit in the first place.
The only reason I'm considering it is because it's close to my house. The gym I trained in compound lifts is a great old-school lifting gym, however it's a bit far. I've tried going to commercial gyms but I don't really dig them.
Hello Fitness GAF:
I am a long time aerobic exerciser (both running and swimming) who has kept a fairly consistent, disciplined routine for years (read: this means I don't really fall off the wagon much).
I am now interested in beginning anaerobic exercise, particularly lifting, and will be looking here for advice as I go forward. I will repeat that I am a fairly disciplined person and can accept difficult, highly repetitive behaviors and habits like this one without much issue.
Some starting information:
Male
Age 29
6'2'' / 188 cm
180 Lbs / 81.5 kg
I am currently able to run 3 miles a day without much issue, and I have some fat on me but relatively little given my height/weight. I have already ordered the book "starting strength" as per suggestions throughout this thread and I have been reading online for advice. Some further information:
1) I am not looking for vanity muscles here; I would like a balanced, healthy approach and not simply "big guns." If anything, I feel my lower body is in considerably worse shape than my upper, and would probably want to focus more on lower body than the other way around. My goal is to have a balanced body and posture, and to provide my own fuel without necessarily requiring coffee in the morning or any other artificial stimulants.
2) I have access to a full gym very near my house. I am inexperienced with barbells but I have access to a trainer if people here feel that is valuable in the early stages.
I am not precisely sure what I am looking for in this particular post; in large part this is simply introductory. I am looking to exercise 5-6 days a week, but am also willing to build up to this if people are confident I cannot suddenly start lifting at that pace. Any advice is appreciated!
I am a long time aerobic exerciser (both running and swimming) who has kept a fairly consistent, disciplined routine for years (read: this means I don't really fall off the wagon much).
I am now interested in beginning anaerobic exercise, particularly lifting, and will be looking here for advice as I go forward. I will repeat that I am a fairly disciplined person and can accept difficult, highly repetitive behaviors and habits like this one without much issue.
Some starting information:
Male
Age 29
6'2'' / 188 cm
180 Lbs / 81.5 kg
I am currently able to run 3 miles a day without much issue, and I have some fat on me but relatively little given my height/weight. I have already ordered the book "starting strength" as per suggestions throughout this thread and I have been reading online for advice. Some further information:
1) I am not looking for vanity muscles here; I would like a balanced, healthy approach and not simply "big guns." If anything, I feel my lower body is in considerably worse shape than my upper, and would probably want to focus more on lower body than the other way around. My goal is to have a balanced body and posture, and to provide my own fuel without necessarily requiring coffee in the morning or any other artificial stimulants.
2) I have access to a full gym very near my house. I am inexperienced with barbells but I have access to a trainer if people here feel that is valuable in the early stages.
I am not precisely sure what I am looking for in this particular post; in large part this is simply introductory. I am looking to exercise 5-6 days a week, but am also willing to build up to this if people are confident I cannot suddenly start lifting at that pace. Any advice is appreciated!
HollovVpo1nt
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LOL
fredrancour
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If you want to lift 5 to 6 days a week you cannot do starting strength. trying to do so would lead to massive injuries, even without the cardio. Part of the program is that it is done 3 days a week. More days of lifting a week isn't inherently better.
If you lift and do cardio on the same day, lift first. Minimizes injury risks.
I don't have the book yet -- simply ordered it. I know nothing about it currently other than that it is highly recommended.
Okay, 3 days a week is also fine; I am simply saying that I can allot 5-6 days if that is better. Are 3 days more recommended? If so, how long is each session? Should I or should I not continue a cardio routine? If I should have a cardio routine, should it be on my lifting off days or on days?
Starting Strength is built around a 3 day weekly schedule, with at least 48 hours between each workout.
Cardio is not part of the program. You can do it if you like, either after the workout or on off days. But be aware that it can potentially affect your recovery.
Each workout lasts between 40 minutes and up to two hours. At the beginning the workouts will be short and easy, but since weight is progressively added to the bar every workout, it doesn't take long for workouts to get longer and longer, because rest periods between sets will need to be longer for you to complete all your reps.
You'll work your lower body just fine on Starting Strength. For one, you'll be squatting every other day (and, ideally, increasing the amount you squat every time).
It's quite a straightforward routine so I wouldn't bother with a trainer. If you are having trouble with any of the lifts, just have a look around the web. The great thing about SS is that there is so much info out there.
That's a finnish IFBB Pro Jari "Bull" Mentula. Huge dude but his head looks pretty weird
Wolfe
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I would recommend just reading through the book and then hitting the gym and going to work. Don't worry about trying to focus on your lower body more as the amount of squats/deadlifts you'll be doing will definitely take care of that. I started 4 months ago as someone of your same height but weighed around 145-150 (always had super low BF%) and now at 175 by far most of my weight gain has been in my legs/core/back.
In my opinion a trainer is unnecessary although it may help getting critique on your form while checking out some videos online for pointers.
Starting Strength will work well for you. Since you ordered the book, I recommend waiting until you get it and then reading the whole thing through. The author, Mark Rippetoe, focuses on a more of a function rather than looks with his work.
I do not recommending jumping into a 5-6 days a week since you don't train with barbells right now. The programs 3-day-a-week setup will work just fine, and in the later stages of the program, will be all you can manage.
We did the prowler again last night, 5x 100 meters with light weights (145#). I got through it fine and was pretty happy but when I got home I had a bit of the prowler flu. Didnt puke, just felt that wave of "need rest"
Crossfit is heavily dependent on which one you go to. You can get lucky and find a great one, or a bunch of idiots, or one that's just ok and not worth the money. The ones by me have free classes on Saturdays and you can talk to the owner or coaches to let them know your concerns and see what they say.
Hi,
SS is three days a week as people have said; it would not be a good use of your time as a novice to go more often. The book is a great resource, and he also has a website (startingstrength.com) which has a Q&A forum and some useful articles to read (Conditioning is a Sham might be an interesting one). His political beliefs can be... interesting, but his professional advice is invaluable.
As far as cardio goes, the issue resides less in time commitment and more in recovery; doing a lot of cardio will sap your ability to adapt to your workouts in a reasonable timeframe. In the initial stages of SS you would want to reduce cardio to maybe twice a week after your weight workouts, and keep it fairly short (20 minutes or less), and you may find that some further reduction may be required as you start hitting very heavy weights.
There's also a fair bit to know from a nutrition perspective. The book doesn't go into this in great detail and there is a lot of junk literature on this; the basic concept around whole foods, high protein and enough to fuel recovery and muscular weight gain will see you well off.
It's good that you have good self-discipline and willpower, as it can be challenging to keep up with this aggressive program. Keep us posted on your progress and if you have any further questions!
Mr. City, grumble, and others covered most of what I could offer for advice. Like you I ran 3k-5k most days of the week and seeing grumble advise you to decrease your cardiovascular work as you start the program is spot on. Starting Strength is deceptively simple, and your willpower will come in handy when thirty minute training sessions give way to long bouts of training that evoke a fight-or-flight response with nearly every set.
You are ahead of the game by simply buying the Starting Strength book. No matter what programming you use that book will be the foundation of your barbell training - though given your discipline and desire to build a balanced body Starting Strength does sound like a good fit for your goals.
Welcome to FitnessGAF.
Broke a finger on my left hand last night. Was tired, safety rails were very low, squatted and couldn't get back up. Rolled my neck to get the bar forward and drop it on the rails, but the tip of my ring finger got caught between the rails and the oncoming 210 lbs bar. :]
completely one handed now and it'll take within a month to heal. just wanted to say gaf, its not worth it lifting with ego or any bit of over confidence. or ignoring the fact that you barely got any sleep last night. Just do cardio if you're craving gym and you're tired. Gains will stay there and wait for your next workout day.
completely one handed now and it'll take within a month to heal. just wanted to say gaf, its not worth it lifting with ego or any bit of over confidence. or ignoring the fact that you barely got any sleep last night. Just do cardio if you're craving gym and you're tired. Gains will stay there and wait for your next workout day.
This is PRECISELY why I canceled my workout this morning...
Wife is going through some health issues and I've been up with her the past 2 nights and I didn't want to risk injury being as tired as I am.
SquiddyCracker
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Speaking of energy shots.
Anyone know of a tasty energy drink with as little sugar as possible?
I guess redbull diet might do it?
Coffee/tea is just not my.. cup of tea
Anyone know of a tasty energy drink with as little sugar as possible?
I guess redbull diet might do it?
Coffee/tea is just not my.. cup of tea
I just got in a hilarious argument with my one boss. I've mentioned her before (maybe not here, maybe in the paleo thread) that she loses weight but just eating less junk food.
She told me she was sick the other day and her "curves circuit training really suffered, especially the squats"
I said wait, they do squats?
She said "yeah the squat machine!"
http://youtu.be/F2yI7inLBTE
She then goes on to tell me doing that is no different from using free weights. It's all hydraulics!
I explained machines put you on a set path and to be careful but she wasn't having it. Told me she'll never step foot in a real gym and curves gives her everything she needs.
She told me she was sick the other day and her "curves circuit training really suffered, especially the squats"
I said wait, they do squats?
She said "yeah the squat machine!"
http://youtu.be/F2yI7inLBTE
She then goes on to tell me doing that is no different from using free weights. It's all hydraulics!
I explained machines put you on a set path and to be careful but she wasn't having it. Told me she'll never step foot in a real gym and curves gives her everything she needs.
Speaking of energy shots.
Anyone know of a tasty energy drink with as little sugar as possible?
I guess redbull diet might do it?
Coffee/tea is just not my.. cup of tea
5 hour energy? That's more of a shot than a drink tho.
LOL, that's the most depressing thing I've seen today.
In all honesty though, let her be...her mind is already made up.
entremet
Member
Yeah. People are gonna do what they want to do.
Weight lifting still carries a big stigma to women due to all the junk science about training out there. Like weight lifting makes women bulky and what not. Man, the magazines like Self and whatnot have really done a number on weight lifting in terms of not making it compelling to women, even though it is very beneficial as they age to combat osteoporosis.
Moreover, the weights section can be all boys club at the gym and if you're a semi attractive to attractive female, the stares can get uncomfortable.
This is just the feedback I get from women, family and friends, that I try to convince to weight train, since weight training is better for body composition for everyone.
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Gearing up for a ketosis diet soon, which I've actually never done before, to melt off the rest of my weight before building back up. So, I do have a question - I've been cutting calories easily, and through this, I've managed to become quite addicted to Coke Zero. It has 0 carbs, but looking deeper - will this habit of mine stop me from achieving ketosis, or be a meaningful hurdle I need to get over? I love water, and that's all I drink besides it, but..figured I'd ask if anyone knew.
entremet
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You should be fine.
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Thanks, I figured as much - just didn't want to be baffled if it didn't happen.
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