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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Noema

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This. This with the fierceness.

If you feel like you're on the tail end of SS, are getting bored of SS, are finding squats 3x a week to be too much, or want to incorporate some conditioning smartly into your training you can switch to GSLP (some mighty find templates can be seen here).

5/3/1 is great but, despite there being a template for beginners, there are more efficient ways to make aesthetic and strength gains on a novice program rather than jumping up to something that only has monthly increases.

I agree. Advanced Novice SS (Squats on Monday and Friday; light day on Wednesday) or GSLP should be much better at this point.

You can still milk a lot from your linear progression.
 

jdouglas

Member
I want to go back to New Orleans. So much good food ;_;

I think I'm done trying to bulk for a while. Eat at a bit of a surplus and adjust my macros. Go for more of a recomp right now.

Spain man. So good. When I went there, I ate like a king for the price of a peasant. I don't know if it's the economy or something but the restaurants there are so good and so cheap...
For example; we went to a 5 star restaurant for lunch one day (in some sweaty touristy clothes and me with my panama jack fisherman's hat on) and for like 8 euros got the best meal I've ever had. We had a model serve us (the only people in the place) while some dude was taking photographs of the meals and setting for the city newspaper (I think it was in Madrid). Awesome stuff.

Oh and uh...front squats kicked my ass today. When I did the little slip-your-left-shoe-off-with-your-right something in my pelvis stung. Imma lay back a little and let it heal, if I even need to.
 

cryptic

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All the guys on the college cross country team i was on had low heartrates. I remember one of the guys had a heartrate in the low 30s on his physical. The top guys on that team are the type that can run under 4 mins for the mile and in the 13s for the 5k.

Another thing to consider, endurance cardio in particular is more and more being shown to be unhealthy as it's so taxing. Let's not say because so and so can run so far or so fast that he's healthy.
 
Spain man. So good. When I went there, I ate like a king for the price of a peasant. I don't know if it's the economy or something but the restaurants there are so good and so cheap...
For example; we went to a 5 star restaurant for lunch one day (in some sweaty touristy clothes and me with my panama jack fisherman's hat on) and for like 8 euros got the best meal I've ever had. We had a model serve us (the only people in the place) while some dude was taking photographs of the meals and setting for the city newspaper (I think it was in Madrid). Awesome stuff.

Nice man. I always just want to go eat food at great places. Looking to get out of the US to travel next year. Spain is one of the places I that is on my possible list along with Korea and Japan.

Also random back pic. Shitty lighting blah blah blah

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andycapps

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Is Insanity legit? And how much is it for all together (payment). Thinking of trying it out. Got to get in shape.
I did it. It's a crazy cardio workout but if I could do it over again I'd rather spend those months getting stronger. I think I actually lost strength in doing that. My cardio was probably helped a great deal, but I just want to be healthier and stronger.

You'll never look like Shaun T just by doing insanity. Dude is huge and can barely do any of it for more than a minute. He lifts a lot, guaranteed.
 

DTKT

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Purely from a weight loss perspective : treadmill > elliptical > stationary bike ? Length is about 1 hour at medium intensity.
 

Noema

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Crap, you look freaking giganormous.

I stupidly forgot my belt today, deadlift day. Decided to just do the prescribed reps (first week of my 3rd 5/3/1 Cycle), and some paused squats. I had an incredible pump in my back afterwards. I should definitely not forget my belt at home on Deadlift day.

Also: paused squats are freaking hard. I was struggling with 235lb.
 

SeanR1221

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Crap, you look freaking giganormous.

I stupidly forgot my belt today, deadlift day. Decided to just do the prescribed reps (first week of my 3rd 5/3/1 Cycle), and some paused squats. I had an incredible pump in my back afterwards. I should definitely not forget my belt at home on Deadlift day.

Also: paused squats are freaking hard. I was struggling with 235lb.

Thats why my belt and chalk never leave the car ;)

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Looking hooooooge, Edge. Will this start a series of back pictures??

Maybe

 

Dash27

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Looking good men. One of my favorite outcomes of Starting Strength was broader shoulders and back. I suck at back shots, this is the best I could do. Wish I had a before so it looked impressive hah

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grumble

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Purely from a weight loss perspective : treadmill > elliptical > stationary bike ? Length is about 1 hour at medium intensity.

I wouldn't overthink it too much, and they're all viable options. I'd choose the one you enjoy the most, because if you're planning on doing hours of cardio a week you'll want to stay entertained. Remember that most weight loss happens in the kitchen!

Personally I prefer rowing as it conditions a lot more muscle than running or biking, but they're all good.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/exercise/SM00109
 

Eidan

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Nice man. I always just want to go eat food at great places. Looking to get out of the US to travel next year. Spain is one of the places I that is on my possible list along with Korea and Japan.

Also random back pic. Shitty lighting blah blah blah

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You're a goddamn monster.
 

jdavid459

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question for fitness GAF.

Lately I've been skipping out on my lifting routine (3 days a week, pretty intensive arms/chest leg routine my trainer gave me) to play basketball at work. Only have time for ball or lifting each day not both. Is skipping lifting and playing bball hurting my chances of becoming more "jacked" looking? I want definition. The bball is pretty intense but idk, worried it is just going to make me skinny and that by not lifting I am missing out.
 

kylej

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question for fitness GAF.

Lately I've been skipping out on my lifting routine (3 days a week, pretty intensive arms/chest leg routine my trainer gave me) to play basketball at work. Only have time for ball or lifting each day not both. Is skipping lifting and playing bball hurting my chances of becoming more "jacked" looking? I want definition. The bball is pretty intense but idk, worried it is just going to make me skinny and that by not lifting I am missing out.

If you want definition you need to lower your body fat which basketball could help with, the problem is without lifting you won't have anything to define.
 

Chittagong

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question for fitness GAF.

Lately I've been skipping out on my lifting routine (3 days a week, pretty intensive arms/chest leg routine my trainer gave me) to play basketball at work. Only have time for ball or lifting each day not both. Is skipping lifting and playing bball hurting my chances of becoming more "jacked" looking? I want definition. The bball is pretty intense but idk, worried it is just going to make me skinny and that by not lifting I am missing out.

Definition is a combination of more muscle and less body fat.

Cardio (bball) helps you shed fat but is unlikely to build much muscle. Also, for shedding fat, your diet is way, way more important than cardio.

Lifting is the best way to build muscle. If you are skinny, it's even more important, coupled with protein.

So at worst and as an extreme, by skipping lifting and focusing on cardio and diet you'd be a jacked skinny dude (think Machinist).
 
If you feel like you're on the tail end of SS, are getting bored of SS, are finding squats 3x a week to be too much, or want to incorporate some conditioning smartly into your training you can switch to GSLP (some mighty find templates can be seen here

Looked into GSLP some more, and I'll try the "Joshie's Limeade" version since I want to get into Olympic Lifting anyway. It looks like this:

Mon
Squat 3x5(+)
Bench Press 3x5(+)
Back Extensions 3x15
Chin-ups

Wed
Snatch 6-10 singles
Clean & Jerk 6-10 singles
Front Squat 3x3

Fri
Squat 3x5(+)
Press 3x5(+)
Deadlift 5+

I'll take 20kg off my squat, which gives me a month to get back to my current work weight and set some rep PR's along the way. Progress will be very slow on the presses (microloading and only once a week) but they are stuck anyway so I'll take what I can get. Sounds good?
 

Gilby

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I'm actually impressed, by the way. 'grats on the full flag! How long did you have to train to get there?

It was a few years back, but probably 9-12 months. I didn't have very good form at first, and could only hold it for a second at first. I normally have better form now than in the pic, but I got used to doing them with hands facing in, and now that I have to do them on a post again I'm wobbly.
 
Buncha man beasts up in here.

On a different note, I dropped my entire banana down the garbage disposal. Slipped out of my hands and just fell in.

Embarrassing.
 

Mully

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like a hotdog down a hallway.

Oh man. I really want a hot dog now. Thanks man.

Just ate an entire bag of spring mix, four pieces of boiled chicken, diced red pepper and tomato, and two tablespoons of sunflower seeds and creamy ceasar dressing; all for less than 620 calories.

Had a bowl of cereal and a greek yogurt this morning, followed by an entire swordfish steak and entire package of chopped spinach for lunch. I'm eating well and getting more toned each day. I'm not losing any energy and have surprisingly progressed in all of my lifts, but man 1790 calories a day on top of 5/3/1 and HIIT twice a week is really making me want to eat everything in site.

Who wants quesedillas?
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Oh man. I really want a hot dog now. Thanks man.

Just ate and entire bag of spring mix, four pieces of boiled chicken, diced red pepper and tomato, and two tablespoons of sunflower seeds and creamy ceasar dressing; all for less than 620 calories.

Had a bowl of cereal and a greek yogurt this morning, followed by an entire swordfish steak and entire package of chopped spinach for lunch. I'm eating well and getting more toned each day. I'm not losing any energy and have surprisingly progressed in all of my lifts, but man 1790 calories a day on top of 5/3/1 and HIIT twice a week is really making me want to eat everything in site.

Who wants quesedillas?

Dude I don't get it...I've been hovering around 200 for 2-3 weeks now but I feel I'm recomposing...so weird.

All I want to do is cut. I bumped up my cals 400 and eliminated the 15-20 cardio at the end of my lifting sessions. I wonder if I was knocking myself too low on calories at the end of the day.

I'd rather lose 1lb a week than nothing at all.
 

rando14

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Dude I don't get it...I've been hovering around 200 for 2-3 weeks now but I feel I'm recomposing...so weird.

All I want to do is cut. I bumped up my cals 400 and eliminated the 15-20 cardio at the end of my lifting sessions. I wonder if I was knocking myself too low on calories at the end of the day.

I'd rather lose 1lb a week than nothing at all.

Er, what? By 200 I hope you mean 2000. Also please post your stats (daily cals, weight and height) so we can help :)
 

CrankyJay

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Er, what? By 200 I hope you mean 2000. Also please post your stats (daily cals, weight and height) so we can help :)

Around 200 lbs...


6'2 200 (33 years old)

3 lifting sessions a week
Daily walking (about 1-1.5 miles)
1 cardio session (more to get out of the house than for cals)

Started cutting on a 2000 calorie diet, lost 6 lbs quickly...then have been stalling at 200lbs, so I figured I might have been eating too little, so I bumped it up to 2400 cals.

Macros... 40p/35c/35f

Though on non-lifting days I don't mind going lower on my carbs and going higher fat.
I'm gluten free except for on Saturdays, no refined sugars or carbs.

Sample diet:

pre-workout: quest protein bar
post: protein shake

snack: macadamia nuts (1 oz.)

lunch: salad with field greens, chopped onion, red or green bell pepper, 5oz of turkey or ham or roast beef, and a dressing in make with 1tbsp of olive oil.

snack: fat free yogurt (8oz. with fresh raspberry or blueberry)

dinner: some sort of meat made by me (chicken/pork/ground beef/fish)...with a green veggie like broccoli or spinach or green beans or brussel sprouts (carbs on lifting days might include rice or quinoa or baby red potatoes, and i don't load up)

Dinner is around 6-7pm and I finish eating for the night, and I wonder if I should sneak in a snack around 9 just to keep my metabolism going a bit longer so long as I'm under my cals.
 

balddemon

Banned
Oh man. I really want a hot dog now. Thanks man.

Just ate and entire bag of spring mix, four pieces of boiled chicken, diced red pepper and tomato, and two tablespoons of sunflower seeds and creamy ceasar dressing; all for less than 620 calories.

Had a bowl of cereal and a greek yogurt this morning, followed by an entire swordfish steak and entire package of chopped spinach for lunch. I'm eating well and getting more toned each day. I'm not losing any energy and have surprisingly progressed in all of my lifts, but man 1790 calories a day on top of 5/3/1 and HIIT twice a week is really making me want to eat everything in site.

Who wants quesedillas?

I just finished 2 hot dogs, a salad, 2 servings of this cottage cheese/mandarin orange stuff, and 3 glasses of water. my food baby is immense.
 

andycapps

Member
We still posting back pictures. I'm a newb so still have a ways to go. Sorry about the really dirty mirror and all the kids bath toys in the background.

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rando14

Member
Around 200 lbs...


6'2 200 (33 years old)

3 lifting sessions a week
Daily walking (about 1-1.5 miles)
1 cardio session (more to get out of the house than for cals)

Started cutting on a 2000 calorie diet, lost 6 lbs quickly...then have been stalling at 200lbs, so I figured I might have been eating too little, so I bumped it up to 2400 cals.

Macros... 40p/35c/35f

Though on non-lifting days I don't mind going lower on my carbs and going higher fat.
I'm gluten free except for on Saturdays, no refined sugars or carbs.

Sample diet:

pre-workout: quest protein bar
post: protein shake

snack: macadamia nuts (1 oz.)

lunch: salad with field greens, chopped onion, red or green bell pepper, 5oz of turkey or ham or roast beef, and a dressing in make with 1tbsp of olive oil.

snack: fat free yogurt (8oz. with fresh raspberry or blueberry)

dinner: some sort of meat made by me (chicken/pork/ground beef/fish)...with a green veggie like broccoli or spinach or green beans or brussel sprouts (carbs on lifting days might include rice or quinoa or baby red potatoes, and i don't load up)

Dinner is around 6-7pm and I finish eating for the night, and I wonder if I should sneak in a snack around 9 just to keep my metabolism going a bit longer so long as I'm under my cals.

Your diet looks generally healthy. As long as you are tracking your calories accurately you should be fine.

Have you considered incorporating some high intensity cardio (like HIIT)? It might help you get more calories burned in the time you spend on cardio. Also you could try to tweak your P/C/F split, maybe a bit less in fat and more in protein? Best results through experimenting ;)
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Your diet looks generally healthy. As long as you are tracking your calories accurately you should be fine.

Have you considered incorporating some high intensity cardio (like HIIT)? It might help you get more calories burned in the time you spend on cardio. Also you could try to tweak your P/C/F split, maybe a bit less in fat and more in protein? Best results through experimenting ;)

Yeah, I'm tweaking things...oh well.
 

Az987

all good things
Did somebody say back pics?

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I've been doing the beginner full body workout that's in the OP for a bit. This is my third week, actually.

I haven't really lifted weights much in the past 6 years so I figured I'd just start from scratch. I can already see certain muscles have gotten bigger.
 
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