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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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CrankyJay

Banned
To my surprise I joined the 170s club this morning...179. This is after a diet relaxed weekend. Feels good. Maybe I'll have my wife snap a pic later on today. I won't let myself go below 175.

I'm not surprised. Some of my best weigh-ins have come after a weekend of cheating.
 

Petrie

Banned
LOL, sorry to hear that. They just aren't educated is the issue.

Someone on my FB feed decided to do a juice "detox" diet. They lost 18 pounds, but when I suggested he's going to probably gain all of that back and then some, I got some hate from other people.

I'll just keep my mouth shut from now on.

If people see I'm down 21 pounds and ask for my advice and what I did then I'll help.

Thats the most annoying part, they ask for advice about how I accomplish things, but it sounds like too much work, so cereal it is!

Fucking ignorance.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Huh? Why do you think that is? Interesting.

Could be anything from a bump up in metabolism to water from depleted fat cells being drained thru alcohol or other means.

I don't really question it any longer.

The weight you lost though is honestly because of the work you put in earlier in the week, not because of the cheat. It's water weight being removed from the body.

edit: Also this

Go to bodyrecomposition.com and read Lyle's series on Leptin for a better understanding of this. Last time I tried to quote it I butchered it badly, but in short, Leptin is a hormone in the fat cells and it plays a role in fat loss. When you eat at a deficit for long periods, Leptin can decrease and this can slow fat loss. Doing a refeed (carbohydrate spike) can bump Leptin levels back up which then has the potential to start fat loss going again. Cheat days can accomplish this.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Thats the most annoying part, they ask for advice about how I accomplish things, but it sounds like too much work, so cereal it is!

Fucking ignorance.
Don't forget Jenny Craig. Now that's a long-term solution!

EDIT: Thanks Cranky
 
Annoying workout yesterday. Showed up at the gym at my normal time and while usually at least 1 of the 2 squat racks are available, both were occupied by 2 guys, bro-ing it up and talking to each other the entire time. In between sets, they'd leave their weights on, go elsewhere to work on arms, do pull ups, basically taking for-fuckin-ever with the rack. I didn't ask how much longer they'd be (my mistake) and after a half hour, decided to use the lone smith machine for squatting, albeit at a lower weight. Stupid decision, everything felt off, and after my 3rd set I felt an uncomfortable shooting pain in my left foot. Never again!

First time my routine had been thrown off like that so it felt like a wasted workout, next time I'll just ask but I thought maybe common courtesy would've meant they didn't need them both for almost an hour.
 

Eidan

Member
Annoying workout yesterday. Showed up at the gym at my normal time and while usually at least 1 of the 2 squat racks are available, both were occupied by 2 guys, bro-ing it up and talking to each other the entire time. In between sets, they'd leave their weights on, go elsewhere to work on arms, do pull ups, basically taking for-fuckin-ever with the rack. I didn't ask how much longer they'd be (my mistake) and after a half hour, decided to use the lone smith machine for squatting, albeit at a lower weight. Stupid decision, everything felt off, and after my 3rd set I felt an uncomfortable shooting pain in my left foot. Never again!

First time my routine had been thrown off like that so it felt like a wasted workout, next time I'll just ask but I thought maybe common courtesy would've meant they didn't need them both for almost an hour.

Screw that. 30 minutes occupying the rack? Unforgivable. Like you said, next time just go up and politely ask how many more sets they have. It tends to light a fire under some people's ass.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Annoying workout yesterday. Showed up at the gym at my normal time and while usually at least 1 of the 2 squat racks are available, both were occupied by 2 guys, bro-ing it up and talking to each other the entire time. In between sets, they'd leave their weights on, go elsewhere to work on arms, do pull ups, basically taking for-fuckin-ever with the rack. I didn't ask how much longer they'd be (my mistake) and after a half hour, decided to use the lone smith machine for squatting, albeit at a lower weight. Stupid decision, everything felt off, and after my 3rd set I felt an uncomfortable shooting pain in my left foot. Never again!

First time my routine had been thrown off like that so it felt like a wasted workout, next time I'll just ask but I thought maybe common courtesy would've meant they didn't need them both for almost an hour.

Yeah, if you need that, just ask how many sets they have left or if you can work in. Most times they'll either hurry up what they're doing or let you work in.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Were they using both of them? Yeah, I always ask how many sets they have left after 5 minutes.
 

Petrie

Banned
Annoying workout yesterday. Showed up at the gym at my normal time and while usually at least 1 of the 2 squat racks are available, both were occupied by 2 guys, bro-ing it up and talking to each other the entire time. In between sets, they'd leave their weights on, go elsewhere to work on arms, do pull ups, basically taking for-fuckin-ever with the rack. I didn't ask how much longer they'd be (my mistake) and after a half hour, decided to use the lone smith machine for squatting, albeit at a lower weight. Stupid decision, everything felt off, and after my 3rd set I felt an uncomfortable shooting pain in my left foot. Never again!

First time my routine had been thrown off like that so it felt like a wasted workout, next time I'll just ask but I thought maybe common courtesy would've meant they didn't need them both for almost an hour.

Fuck that. If you leave the rack to go work arms, it is now an open rack.
 
Screw that. 30 minutes occupying the rack? Unforgivable. Like you said, next time just go up and politely ask how many more sets they have. It tends to light a fire under some people's ass.

Yeah, will do. I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt because I wouldn't expect someone to load up weights on the rack and keep them there while they went off to the free weight area next to it and work their arms, etc. and then go back to the rack to do another set, and rinse repeat. Hate to complain because it's a small gym, but it's not worth messing up my workout over it.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Fuck that. If you leave the rack to go work arms, it is now an open rack.
I'll leave to superset pullups but that is time most people would be using to rest. I'd be pissed if someone tried to swipe it while I was gone for 30 seconds and only 15 feet away.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I have to admit on Fridays I just the rack for squats and OHP back to back...but there's really no one else who uses the rack much from my observations. That is...in the morning at least. If I have to do a makeup night session I wouldn't think of attempting that.
 

deadbeef

Member
I had to use the rack for my bench press yesterday because Monday is bench day so after I finished squatting I had to stay in the rack for bench. I hated doing it but it was my only option. I hate Mondays (bench days). Also Wednesday (bench day). Friday is party day (nobody at gym).
 

Petrie

Banned
I'll leave to superset pullups but that is time most people would be using to rest. I'd be pissed if someone tried to swipe it while I was gone for 30 seconds and only 15 feet away.

To each their own, but at my gym too often guys leave the rack to go do 3 other things, but still try to claim they're on it. No, they aren't, and I pay my membership to use the equipment, and if it is sitting unused while you go curl and bench, I'm taking it.
 

Eidan

Member
I had to use the rack for my bench press yesterday because Monday is bench day so after I finished squatting I had to stay in the rack for bench. I hated doing it but it was my only option. I hate Mondays (bench days). Also Wednesday (bench day). Friday is party day (nobody at gym).

I have a personal theory that any time a group of young men come into the gym together, it's bench day.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
To each their own, but at my gym too often guys leave the rack to go do 3 other things, but still try to claim they're on it. No, they aren't, and I pay my membership to use the equipment, and if it is sitting unused while you go curl and bench, I'm taking it.
Yeah but its sitting unused while people rest by that logic.
 

Petrie

Banned
Yeah but its sitting unused while people rest by that logic.

I suppose, but I still see that as that person using that piece of equipment. I don't feel anyone's membership includes the right to tie up multiple pieces of equipment for their convenience.

You want to rest for 5 minutes between sets, go for it.

You want to go use a bench, now you've changed which area you are designating as yours, and I'm taking the rack.
 
Hullo GAF, been wanting to post this for a long long time, but for a good long time I was in serious denial about how unfit I am and generally unhappy with the condition my body is in.

A bit of background:

5ft 10
196lbs

Used to be a smoker but I quit that 7 months ago and expected losing weight and getting into shape to be even easier than quitting a horrible habit I had for 10 years. Turns out the perfect remedy to quitting smoking was to eat loads of junk food and generally be quite lazy and never leave the house.

So now here I am, just started a new job, I quite enjoy cycling but it really takes it out of me. There are no gyms anywhere near by, the ones the closest are far away and rather expensive (we're talking £40-60 a month expensive) so the costs for travelling would build upon the pre-existing expense.

I think my main downfall is that I really don't enjoy eating healthily? And I don't mean that in the usual way, where people say that all healthy food is bad for you, but I literally mean I can't eat vegetables mainly without wretching and then progressing to vomitting. I'm aware it's most likely a psychological thing, as I used to eat them when younger, but nowadays it's like my pallet just can't stomach them.

I'm okay eating fruit, okay with all meat, I've been trying to cut out breads and sugars but not doing very well.

So really, GAF, if you could help me get on my way to being a healthy and productive human being, I would be forever grateful. I'm only earning minimum wage, so I have around about £150-200 to spend on food each month at a stretch. Currently my only method of exercise is my bike, which I take to and from work every day. I've tried jogging and doing push-ups/sit ups in the mornings and evenings but it seriously takes it out of me and I can barely manage 5 minutes of jogging, with maybe 10 push-ups or sit-ups maximum.

This has really just come up on me through being lazy going off to university, but now that I'm out in the proper world I want to nip it in the bud before it spirals out of control even more.

Please help, please. I'm not asking for an entire eating/exercise plan (although that would be awesome as I'm damn good at following things obsessively) but just some sort of clue where to get started. I'm aware of various diets (atkins/keto/etc.) but they all seem like they're going to be very expensive as they rely on loads of fresh meat which I can't really afford on my salary.

Apologies for the long post, I await any and all responses.

Sincerely,
A person completely fed up with themselves.
 
Hey, I've made a thread on body/mind/spiritual self-improvement, and am looking for people interested in writing up a guide on how to improve one or several aspects of the body.
If no one is interested I shall try to write something together using the useful OP as a base (after permission, of course), but I'm sure there are people here that are more knowledgeable than me when it comes to fitness.


Thread.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
I suppose, but I still see that as that person using that piece of equipment. I don't feel anyone's membership includes the right to tie up multiple pieces of equipment for their convenience.

You want to rest for 5 minutes between sets, go for it.

You want to go use a bench, now you've changed which area you are designating as yours, and I'm taking the rack.

I get it. But if I take 30 sec to go do some pullups and come back to rest for 30 sec I don't think its right for someone to try and take the rack. Like you said, to each their own.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I get it. But if I take 30 sec to go do some pullups and come back to rest for 30 sec I don't think its right for someone to try and take the rack. Like you said, to each their own.

How are people supposed to know you're still occupying the first piece of equipment if you've moved onto something else? I think if you're going to superset you should do it with a partner so you can alternate, not leaving a misleading vacancy.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
How are people supposed to know you're still occupying the first piece of equipment if you've moved onto something else? I think if you're going to superset you should do it with a partner so you can alternate, not leaving a misleading vacancy.
Because I have a towel and water on the rack. Pullup bars are a community piece of equipment too. Everyone rotates in and out. It's not like you can take it for 10 minutes.
 

Requiem

Member
I have a question, I have been doing deadlifts for the past month or so and during the actual movement my lower back feels fine (no pains) but later on in the day or even the next morning, my lower back is really tight. For example if I am sitting down and I put my chin to my chest, I can feel my lower back stretching and it hurts a bit (nothing debilitating) or another example, if I am slouching in my chair and I try to lean forward, again my lower back hurts. I am possibly doing my deadlifts wrong? Is it just muscle soreness? Maybe I am sleeping in a bad position ( sleep on a couch by the way)? Any help would be appreciated :D


Quick Info

6' 3"
332 (lost 11 lbs YAY!!)
Deadlifting about 195 lbs
Doing Conventional Deadlifts as described in the OP
 

thomaser

Member
Sat new prs in both squat (115kg) and bench (70kg) today. Feels pretty good! Haven't been this exhausted in a long time. My bodyweight is 71,2kg, so I might finally do that next time I bench. Or maybe not... I could just barely force up the two last reps today, so another 2,5kg might be too big a leap next time.
 

agrajag

Banned
Guys, I have some sort of bad injury inn my upper back. I have no idea how it happened, but it feels like a pinched nerve, right behind my left scapula. I can do everything except for dips. For some reason that motion is really painful. So I have taken dips out of my routine until I feel heeled up. The problem is that it's been three weeks and it still persists. I feel no pain doing normal activities. Does a pinched nerve sound like a correct diagnosis? If so, how long does it take to heal? Should I go see a doctor/chiropractor?
 

Veezy

que?
There sure is. He wrote one template on his blog and one for Men's Health on theirs. Basically...

Four day split.

Day 1: Press

5/3/1 on Press
Shoulder BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Shoulder BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Bicep BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Bicep BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps

Day 2: Deadlift

5/3/1 on Deadlift
Back BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Back BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Back BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Abs BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps

Day 3: Bench

5/3/1 on Bench
Chest BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Chest BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Tricep BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Tricep BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps

Day 4: Squat

5/3/1 on Squat
Leg BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Leg BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Leg BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps
Abs BB movement for 4 sets 10-15 reps

The only change from how it's instructed is that your last rep of the 5/3/1 movement ends at either the minimum or a 1-2 reps over. Minimum is best, because you want the extra push on your BB movements to get dat swoleness. You still increase monthly, still deload, etc. It's a fantastic template and will actually give you strength, where you wouldn't with most standard BB templates.

As for cardio, 40 minutes of walking per day. Don't want to mess with your recovery if your goal is swoleness.
I just wanted to comment that this particular programing is the best, by far, programming I've ever been on. While I have no real desire to get up to serious powerlifting numbers, being able to be on a body building program that actually increases strength is amazing. I feel strong, look lean, and get in and out of the gym quicker than most people.

It's really an amazing program.
 

Eidan

Member
I just wanted to comment that this particular programing is the best, by far, programming I've ever been on. While I have no real desire to get up to serious powerlifting numbers, being able to be on a body building program that actually increases strength is amazing. I feel strong, look lean, and get in and out of the gym quicker than most people.

It's really an amazing program.

It's the variation I've been using for three months now and I love it. I kept BBB for my squat days since I was really enjoying the gains I was making, but I feel like my legs are starting to fall behind, while my butt is getting stronger and larger. I think I'm going to switch to the BB routine for legs tonight.
 

bro1

Banned
Hullo GAF, been wanting to post this for a long long time, but for a good long time I was in serious denial about how unfit I am and generally unhappy with the condition my body is in.

A bit of background:

5ft 10
196lbs

Used to be a smoker but I quit that 7 months ago and expected losing weight and getting into shape to be even easier than quitting a horrible habit I had for 10 years. Turns out the perfect remedy to quitting smoking was to eat loads of junk food and generally be quite lazy and never leave the house.

So now here I am, just started a new job, I quite enjoy cycling but it really takes it out of me. There are no gyms anywhere near by, the ones the closest are far away and rather expensive (we're talking £40-60 a month expensive) so the costs for travelling would build upon the pre-existing expense.

I think my main downfall is that I really don't enjoy eating healthily? And I don't mean that in the usual way, where people say that all healthy food is bad for you, but I literally mean I can't eat vegetables mainly without wretching and then progressing to vomitting. I'm aware it's most likely a psychological thing, as I used to eat them when younger, but nowadays it's like my pallet just can't stomach them.

I'm okay eating fruit, okay with all meat, I've been trying to cut out breads and sugars but not doing very well.

So really, GAF, if you could help me get on my way to being a healthy and productive human being, I would be forever grateful. I'm only earning minimum wage, so I have around about £150-200 to spend on food each month at a stretch. Currently my only method of exercise is my bike, which I take to and from work every day. I've tried jogging and doing push-ups/sit ups in the mornings and evenings but it seriously takes it out of me and I can barely manage 5 minutes of jogging, with maybe 10 push-ups or sit-ups maximum.

This has really just come up on me through being lazy going off to university, but now that I'm out in the proper world I want to nip it in the bud before it spirals out of control even more.

Please help, please. I'm not asking for an entire eating/exercise plan (although that would be awesome as I'm damn good at following things obsessively) but just some sort of clue where to get started. I'm aware of various diets (atkins/keto/etc.) but they all seem like they're going to be very expensive as they rely on loads of fresh meat which I can't really afford on my salary.

Apologies for the long post, I await any and all responses.

Sincerely,
A person completely fed up with themselves.

Glad to hear that you've quit smoking and are looking to get into shape. First things first. If you are unfit, then yes, running and exercise is going to be tough. Nobody here started benching 225 their first day at the gym!

I would continue with the biking and work running and body weight exercises into it. If you haven't run in a long time then any amount of running is going to be hard. Same goes for body weight squats, situps, or pushups. You just have to suck it up and do it everyday. It will get easier but it will take time.

As for diet, you're going to have to make some adjustments. Have you tried hiding vegetables in your food? You know, blending them up and cooking them in? Or, you could try and be an adult and eat your veggies. If not, then a multi vitamin will help.
 
How is this for a simple Push/Pull split? A, then rest day or cardio, then B and repeat.

A)

Dips
Military Press
Bench
Squat
Ring Pushups (off dip bar)

B)

Pullups
Bent Over Rows
Laying Ring Rows (off pullup bar)
Deadlift
Hanging Leg Raises

I changed my split up a bit. Is this any better or should I drop the curls since I am already doing so much back work?

A)

Dips
Military Press
Bench
Squat
Ring Pushups (off dip bar)
Dip Bar Leg Raises

B)

Pullups
Bent Over Rows
Deadlift
Laying Ring Rows (off pullup bar)
Barbell Curls
Hanging Leg Raises
 
Popped a blood vessel in my eye last night pushing too hard on the leg press. Left eye went completely red, looked like I was out of some horror movie. Scared the shit out of me but hopefully it ain't anything serious.
 

RM8

Member
Nice, there's a topic for everything around here.

Guys, I'm a sedentary skinny male who will attempt to remove a bit of lower back and thigh fat by drastically reducing carbs intake and running from 30 to 60 minutes a day, before I get serious about getting fit. Do you think that's a good plan? Carbs are the only thing wrong with my diet, I'd say. I completely avoid sugar, I drink tons of water, I love veggies, fish and chicken and rarely eat red meat. But yeah, dat bread.

Thanks in advance!
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Popped a blood vessel in my eye last night pushing too hard on the leg press. Left eye went completely red, looked like I was out of some horror movie. Scared the shit out of me but hopefully it ain't anything serious.

Best to get it checked out by a doctor. Do you know if you have high blood pressure?
 

Walsh

Banned
So I have two metal plates in my body, one in each leg (both below the knee)

I have fallen in love with running again but the impact has made my legs feel a weird type of pain around the plates.

What are the best options for a low impact workout for my legs that I can replace as cardio for running? I am talking more of the machines available at the gym or alternative methods in the wild. I know swimming is nice but I suck at swimming.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
So I have two metal plates in my body, one in each leg (both below the knee)

I have fallen in love with running again but the impact has made my legs feel a weird type of pain around the plates.

What are the best options for a low impact workout for my legs that I can replace as cardio for running? I am talking more of the machines available at the gym or alternative methods in the wild. I know swimming is nice but I suck at swimming.

Try elliptical machines. They closely resemble running but with pretty much no impact on the knees. This is what I use with pretty good results.

Elliptical-Machine.jpg
 
Best to get it checked out by a doctor. Do you know if you have high blood pressure?
Yeh my GF told me to check it out but I thought I'd wait it out but that's because I have a major aversion to docs, 24 years and I've been 3 times. No idea about blood pressure might be something to look into, it happened to a cousin of mine last year when I was at the gym with him and it seemed like it happened when he exerted extra effort into a movement especially leg exercises.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Yeh my GF told me to check it out but I thought I'd wait it out but that's because I have a major aversion to docs, 24 years and I've been 3 times. No idea about blood pressure might be something to look into, it happened to a cousin of mine last year when I was at the gym with him and it seemed like it happened when he exerted extra effort into a movement especially leg exercises.

Could be a breathing issue. Were you holding your breath?

Heh, there's an exact topic on leg workouts and this at BB.com:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=196290&page=1
 
Yeh my GF told me to check it out but I thought I'd wait it out but that's because I have a major aversion to docs, 24 years and I've been 3 times. No idea about blood pressure might be something to look into, it happened to a cousin of mine last year when I was at the gym with him and it seemed like it happened when he exerted extra effort into a movement especially leg exercises.

I wouldn't worry about it, a broken blood vessel in the eye is typically harmless and will clear up in about 2 weeks. I know someone that got one from pooping. You can even get them from coughing or sneezing; it just happens.
 

Petrie

Banned
I get it. But if I take 30 sec to go do some pullups and come back to rest for 30 sec I don't think its right for someone to try and take the rack. Like you said, to each their own.

Its just different gyms. I don't see anyone leave for 30 seconds so that's never been a thing. They take off for 10 minutes.
 
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