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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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Then you're part of the Rippetoe cult.
I found just taking straight up caffeine pills a lot more cost effective than pre-workouts. where I live a preworkout can be like $30-40 for a couple weeks worth of servings. meanwhile I can get 120 200mg caffeine pills for like $5-7 and they last for months.
if you use a pre-workout you are probably just using it for the stims so anything else they throw in there really isn't that useful (just my opinion). lots of these products have other stimulants aside from caffeine in them, but if you increase your sensitivity to caffeine then pills will be good enough.
I don't drink anything with caffeine (no pop, no coffee, no tea). I'll even have 3-4month stretches where I don't have any stimulants at all (not even preworkout). plus I train fasted, so when I do take a 200mg caffeine pill it's enough for me to really feel it.
what bout leg press and lunges? are this shit necessary? I'm really looking for ways to cut down my workouts as I currently do a 5 day split (yes yes I know majority of ppl here prefer other variations), but I'm thinking if I just do squats then I can mix legs with shoulders/traps as well, bringing me down to a 4 day split.
Currently my leg day is squats, leg press, 2 leg extension machines (one goes up, one goes down), lunges and calf raises.
Squats and lunges will work out your entire legs. Leg Press works mainly the quads.
Cross posting from the weight loss thread:
Anyone here ever use the BodyBugg?
Once I'm off my Keto diet, which will be soon, I plan on seriously counting my calories. My brother just told me about this device and how you wear it all day and it accurately tracks how many calories you burn all day everyday, even in your sleep. With this specific one, the SP, you pair it with a cell phone app. The only issue I see is that it's subscription based. You get the first 6 months for free and then they have some plans you can buy. Like 80$ for 12 months (which is what I would get) Aside from that I think it's an extremely cool device and very interesting. I know having a wealth of data at my disposal like this will help me keep the weight I've lost, off. I'm going to do more research, read more reviews and stuff and if I choose, I'm going to pick one up in a month or so.
Anyone here ever use the BodyBugg?
Once I'm off my Keto diet, which will be soon, I plan on seriously counting my calories. My brother just told me about this device and how you wear it all day and it accurately tracks how many calories you burn all day everyday, even in your sleep. With this specific one, the SP, you pair it with a cell phone app. The only issue I see is that it's subscription based. You get the first 6 months for free and then they have some plans you can buy. Like 80$ for 12 months (which is what I would get) Aside from that I think it's an extremely cool device and very interesting. I know having a wealth of data at my disposal like this will help me keep the weight I've lost, off. I'm going to do more research, read more reviews and stuff and if I choose, I'm going to pick one up in a month or so.
well the routine i'm currently doing is squat based so there's no way i would even consider doing anything else for legs. it really depends on what you wanna do. i would just stick with squats and do nothing else for legs that day.
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my workout:
squatted 10x3x320. i mean wtf. i had to have a spotter on the last 2 sets, and he had to help me get the very last rep of the 10th set up.
Hey gang, I think it's time to take things to the next level and start posing pics and progress on this thread regarding my LG style diet. It's been tricky with this new job, but I've managed to keep things sane. I'll post more in detail later, but I would really like to be a motivation for a lot of newer posters here while also keeping me honest.
On a side note, it is me or does this same old conversation get brought up every 8 pages, the old that goes how there's no room for anything else in this thread by powerlifering. This sad because you're not even powerlifter until you compete on the platform, so no one here is a powerlifter.
What's even more sad is people are thinking of splitting the thread into two, one for advanced lifters and one for fitness. What exactly is this thing called fitness? Right now, being strong seems to be optional, while running and lots of cardio are in vogue. I want this thread to be a shining beacon of truth in a world of snake oil salesman and half-assed conclusions by "professionals." I would like a conversation about strength, conditioning, and diet in this thread, however some of you have forgotten that a conversation is not a giant echo chamber of agreement.
I will admit that posters are little overzealous in their recommendations, however if you guys really want to bring up new topics in this thread, then bring it on. Hell, if you really do your homework and people are interested in it, I might just put it in the OP. This whole thing is a process, a journey. Someone of us are farther along down the path and can share some valuable wisdom, however each path is not the same.
On a side note, it is me or does this same old conversation get brought up every 8 pages, the old that goes how there's no room for anything else in this thread by powerlifering. This sad because you're not even powerlifter until you compete on the platform, so no one here is a powerlifter.
What's even more sad is people are thinking of splitting the thread into two, one for advanced lifters and one for fitness. What exactly is this thing called fitness? Right now, being strong seems to be optional, while running and lots of cardio are in vogue. I want this thread to be a shining beacon of truth in a world of snake oil salesman and half-assed conclusions by "professionals." I would like a conversation about strength, conditioning, and diet in this thread, however some of you have forgotten that a conversation is not a giant echo chamber of agreement.
I will admit that posters are little overzealous in their recommendations, however if you guys really want to bring up new topics in this thread, then bring it on. Hell, if you really do your homework and people are interested in it, I might just put it in the OP. This whole thing is a process, a journey. Someone of us are farther along down the path and can share some valuable wisdom, however each path is not the same.
I've heard the opposite, I read that they're really easy on the knees and some people even recommend them as warm ups before squats.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
picked up a pull-up bar today finally. perfect gym or something, same guys that made the perfect push-up handle things.
I can do one and a half. Goal: 50.
Sitting at 170-172 daily, btw. Goal: 165.
I can do one and a half. Goal: 50.
Sitting at 170-172 daily, btw. Goal: 165.
Vermillion
Banned
Hey guys, question: if I want to gain muscle, should I eat before or after exercise?
Also, what do dumbbell hammer curls do for me (I think that's what they're called - one at a time, I lift one dumbbell until it's parallel to it's starting position, above my shoulder height, then I drop it and switch to the other one and repeat).
Also, what do dumbbell hammer curls do for me (I think that's what they're called - one at a time, I lift one dumbbell until it's parallel to it's starting position, above my shoulder height, then I drop it and switch to the other one and repeat).
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
If you want gain muscle you have to eat - period. Timing doesn't matter as long as you are getting enough clean calories and a decent amount of protein. That said, a lot of people will recommend having a small boost of protein before a workout or directly after a workout (like a shake) to help. Having your big meal for the day after your workout is also fine advice.
If you're looking to fill out a bit then simply upping your diet a bit should suffice. If you're talking about actually bodybuilding, I always tell people to start at a 3000 calorie diet to see if they're serious or not. Most people I've done that with quit after a week because they just do not have the will or discipline to properly budget and prepare the diet required for bodybuilding.
As for hammer curls, not sure if this is what you're asking but it hits your forearms/bis.
Vermillion
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Thank you!
Syphon Filter
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I decided to focus on burning fat for now. Should i still do Starting Strength or is there something more specific and beneficial for burning fat strictly?
Price Dalton
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Well, lifting weights is definitely good for fat-burning, but SS's volume tends to inspire a high caloric intake.
I've found reverse pyramid training to be pretty forgiving on calorie intake.
Syphon Filter
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What about doing some of those and not all? I heard compound exercises are good for burning fat.
So maybe squat,bench,pull ups,military press. some HIIT in between the 3 days.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I got the itch again to start bodybuilding seriously (been on a climbing/yoga/cross fit hiatus for a while) so I said fuck it, ordered the supplements, dug out my old logs, and began planning everything out. This time though I'll be doing things a bit more streamlined. Found a great free app for the iPhone called Epic Workout to track exercises so can throw the notebook away. Also going to start my creatine cycle immediately and pretty much double my caloric intake from the start. Not stuff I'd recommend to anyone else but my body's used to all of this by now.
I opted to try out this flavorless whey and it's surprisingly great. Also contemplating grabbing some Myoplex packets as well.. used them with great success a few years back but fuuuckkkkkk I can still taste that vanilla in the back of my throat to this day.
I realize there's this big 5/3/1 boom going on nowadays but I've always been partial to S.A.I.S. (with my own modifications) for the last decade. Always saw huge gains in relatively short bursts of time so I think I'll go at it again. Not as young as I was back then but I look forward to the challenge. I used to be a part of another forum community with other bodybuilders but since I'm back in the states now I figured this time I'll stick with fellow GAFers.
I opted to try out this flavorless whey and it's surprisingly great. Also contemplating grabbing some Myoplex packets as well.. used them with great success a few years back but fuuuckkkkkk I can still taste that vanilla in the back of my throat to this day.
I realize there's this big 5/3/1 boom going on nowadays but I've always been partial to S.A.I.S. (with my own modifications) for the last decade. Always saw huge gains in relatively short bursts of time so I think I'll go at it again. Not as young as I was back then but I look forward to the challenge. I used to be a part of another forum community with other bodybuilders but since I'm back in the states now I figured this time I'll stick with fellow GAFers.
Just a quick question.. Should be still trying to eat as much as I can if I have ~20% body fat? Obviously I'd like to get that down as I go but it hasn't been moving at all for the last month and I've basically been following the starting strength routine. Been feeling great about everything else but maybe I'm eating too much?
Heh, looks like I may have pulled something in my upper inner thigh. Not quite right at the groin but just below. If I were to try and pull my knee up to my chest, I'd only be able to lift my leg about a 1/4 of the way.
Happened during my football match yesterday. It just went and I had to come off.
No way am I risking it at the gym now which is a pain as I don't really know what happened. Hopefully it's just a pull.
Happened during my football match yesterday. It just went and I had to come off.
No way am I risking it at the gym now which is a pain as I don't really know what happened. Hopefully it's just a pull.
If your goals include building strength and muscle, you're probably doing the right thing. Just for your general well-being, stay on top of the type of calories you're putting in your body. You don't want to build your foundation on Hostess snack cakes, of course.
It's very common with dancers. Like with all knee pain, it's not something you should ignore. It usually means that your alignment is off or your doing something new that your body doesn't like.
It's not super serious, but your knees are sort of warning you. Ice it, and should go away. When you return to the gym, be incredibly mindful of your form, maybe even have someone you trust check it. Make sure those knees are tracking in line with the toes. Take your warmup very seriously.
Your body might also be telling you that your quads, lower back and/or hips are too tight. A proper warmup and good alignment should alleviate that, but you may want to do stretches for those areas.
AdventureRacing
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Finally got to work out after being sick on and off for a week and a half. I managed to do the same weights i was doing before but it really killed me today.
Escape Goat
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Anyone workout on a gluten free diet? I think I may have an allergy to it. I've been doing some web research and I have several symptoms listed, both with celiac disease and gluten allergy. Eczema on my face, depression, digestive issues chief among them. So I'd hope to avoid a pricey doctor visit and try an elimination diet.
Does anyone use any books on preparing gluten free meals? I have absolutely no idea what ingredients to avoid and I don't know how to create a meal without using a gluten ingredient.
Does anyone use any books on preparing gluten free meals? I have absolutely no idea what ingredients to avoid and I don't know how to create a meal without using a gluten ingredient.
Castor Krieg
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Trying to go on 5-meals-a-day regimen, please for the love of all that is holy tell me I don't have to do it and can just eat lean things with protein e.g. grilled meat.
It doesn't help that my BMR is 1700, with Insanity I'm looking at 3000 kcal per day!! WTH, where am I going to get all of this? Protein shakes love me long time?
It doesn't help that my BMR is 1700, with Insanity I'm looking at 3000 kcal per day!! WTH, where am I going to get all of this? Protein shakes love me long time?
Eat, eat and eat. I ate 3300-3600 cals a day for about 4 months and I gained about 10 pounds overall. I had recently stopped tracking my calories but still eating a lot and since then I've lost 5 pounds.
You don't need 5 meals a day, but if that's what it takes to get the calories you need you'll have to do it unless you want to experience mass loss.
I asked a page or 2 back but didn't get any responses, but let's try once more:
Going to my hometown for about 18 days total, where I will have limited gym access, for the most part just a Planet Fitness my brother is a member at. For much of that time we will be going to my girl's family camp, meaning no gym access whatsoever for at least a week.
I'm at the end of my cut, and have still een doing SS with decresed volume, while continuing to see gains on all my lifts except squats.
I'm actually thinking about sticking with SS for a bit longer, seeing as my deadlifts have gone up from 335 to 385 while on my cut. Originally I planned to switch to 5/3/1 in the fall, but I'm starting to think maybe not? Thoughts on this are appreciated as well.
But the crux of my issue is, given these circumstances, what would be best for my progress these coming weeks? Is there a bodyweight routine I can take to doing in order to minimize losses? Should I just totally deload the week at camp, then do what I can at the gyms available the rest of the time? Just take an 18 day deload? Buy a duffel bag and some bags of sand to work on my lifts while at home/camp?
I'm open to any and all options available, I just want to be ready to hit it hard when fall comes and it's time to eat big and grow again. Cut has been great, but I'm ready for serious gains.
Going to my hometown for about 18 days total, where I will have limited gym access, for the most part just a Planet Fitness my brother is a member at. For much of that time we will be going to my girl's family camp, meaning no gym access whatsoever for at least a week.
I'm at the end of my cut, and have still een doing SS with decresed volume, while continuing to see gains on all my lifts except squats.
I'm actually thinking about sticking with SS for a bit longer, seeing as my deadlifts have gone up from 335 to 385 while on my cut. Originally I planned to switch to 5/3/1 in the fall, but I'm starting to think maybe not? Thoughts on this are appreciated as well.
But the crux of my issue is, given these circumstances, what would be best for my progress these coming weeks? Is there a bodyweight routine I can take to doing in order to minimize losses? Should I just totally deload the week at camp, then do what I can at the gyms available the rest of the time? Just take an 18 day deload? Buy a duffel bag and some bags of sand to work on my lifts while at home/camp?
I'm open to any and all options available, I just want to be ready to hit it hard when fall comes and it's time to eat big and grow again. Cut has been great, but I'm ready for serious gains.
I've read the OP and still have a couple questions. I'm looking to pretty much do the Starting Strength routine in the OP, but I only have time to lift on 2 days out of the week, Tuesdays and Thursdays. I can run (HIIT) or bike on M/W/F. Here's my info.
Age: 29
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 207
Goal: 190
Current Training Schedule: Just finished Insanity for second time through. Have not been as strict on diet as they recommend, but have been pretty close.
Current Training Equipment Available: Olympic weightlifting set at in-laws (max of 300 lb) that I can use on Tues and Thurs. At home have access to bike, chin-up bar, dumbbells max of 35.
Comments: I haven't lifted seriously in years, so I am out of practice and unsure of what weight to start at.
Age: 29
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 207
Goal: 190
Current Training Schedule: Just finished Insanity for second time through. Have not been as strict on diet as they recommend, but have been pretty close.
Current Training Equipment Available: Olympic weightlifting set at in-laws (max of 300 lb) that I can use on Tues and Thurs. At home have access to bike, chin-up bar, dumbbells max of 35.
Comments: I haven't lifted seriously in years, so I am out of practice and unsure of what weight to start at.
A week off is good once in a while, it even gets you more pumped for when you get back. 18 days off is kind of long though, me personally I would just do cardio and bodyweight routines. Do a lot of bodyweight squats (like 200 at a time), handstand pushups, lunges, pullups, chinups etc. Do a lot of variations on pullups and pushups. Maybe some ab exercises if you're into that. You can find some really good bodyweight routines on youtube as well.
I suppose that's what I'll do then. Supplement that with whatever dumbbell stuff I can do at Planet when I do get the chance to go.
Camp will be nothing but cardio. Stoked for that!
MrOogieBoogie
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Haven't been able to watch the Olympics, so I thought I'd do my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3iyiK_TGKw&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3iyiK_TGKw&feature=youtu.be
Anybody in here have experience or own the powerblock series dumbells?? I have an opportunity to pick up an older elite set (5-130lbs) with stand for 300$... I've been looking to get some home gym equipment since I'm about to be a stay at home dad for a couple months. Originally I was thinking about buying an olympic weight set up but due to the size of garage it can't be a full fledge squat or even half squat rack.. I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on the powerblocks
Haven't been able to watch the Olympics, so I thought I'd do my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3iyiK_TGKw&feature=youtu.be
Nice! I'm hoping to be able to do something similar one day
Haven't been able to watch the Olympics, so I thought I'd do my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3iyiK_TGKw&feature=youtu.be
lol nice, i'm jealous
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
You need to do it. Well, technically you can have one meal a day if you want assuming you get all your calories/protein in it. I always spread my mass diet out to about 6 meals including snacks. No, shakes don't count. =P If you can get over the hump of planning and preparing your daily diet, you're already ahead of 99% of people who want to bodybuild.
themadhatter444
Neo Member
Haven't been able to watch the Olympics, so I thought I'd do my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3iyiK_TGKw&feature=youtu.be
Dude. BEAST.
The Mana Legend
Banned
So I know I'm not supposed to eat within 3 hours before bed But what about 5 hours before bed? I usually eat at around 7, and then sit around playing games/tv/movie/reading for the next 5 hours before falling asleep.
Is that fine, or should I bump my dinner up to around 8:30/9?
Is that fine, or should I bump my dinner up to around 8:30/9?
I sometimes eat 10 minutes before bed. I have a small meal around 2 hours before bed. Fuck those time rules. Eat whenever you want (just don't go eating a tub of Ben and Jerry's at midnight every day).
Syphon Filter
Member
what is a good alternative for protein powder if i dont have any?
Food.
TheDarkStark
Member
If you're trying to add muscle, you should always eat before bed.
Peanuts/Natural Peanut Butter, Cottage Cheese, or a Casein protein shake are ideal.
Even on a cut, eating these things before bed isn't going to kill you. The main thing is that you don't want to load up on carbs late at night, try to most of your carbs early in the day and immediately after your workout.
My stomach has been really iffy the last four days, so I'm wondering if I should work out tomorrow. My stomach just feels weird and "warm", and I'm very gassy and burp and fart all the time. Wake up at night feeling as if I have to throw up. If I lie on my sides, bile comes up, so I have to lie on my back propped up with a pillow. Energy is way down from the usual. I don't know if it's because of something I ate or perhaps a virus. A wisdom tooth has been bothering me for three-four days, but would that effect my intestines? I skipped one workout yesterday, so I'm not comfortable with skipping yet again tomorrow, but I guess it's the only reasonable thing to do.
The Mana Legend
Banned
I am taking a Casein protein shake every night before bed. I'm mostly talking about when I eat dinner. Is there a big difference between 5 hour or 3 hours before bed?
TheDarkStark
Member
I think it depends largely on your goals. I don't think there is a definitive answer to the question, but I try not to eat dinner less than 4 hours before bed if at all possible. And when I do I get rid of all non-veggie carbs
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
The only time not recommended to eat is something like between midnight and two because your body assumes it's sleep time and slows the metabolism. Don't worry about when you eat dinner. 9-10pm dinners are normal for mass diets.
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