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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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ToxicAdam

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Whenever I see a client with a trainer at my gym, they always spend 45 minutes on the bullshittiest machines. Just seems like a waste to me. Plus I haven't heard good things about trainers from other people. I suppose if you want help with form on exercises like squats and stuff like that, but if all you're trying to do is burn fat, I don't see why you'd need to spend all that money for someone to give you a cardio regimen.


I see the value of a trainer if you have motivation issues. Not only can they push you a little harder than what you normally would do, just the process of paying someone/them expecting you to show up at X time is a pretty compelling reason to go to the gym.

Lot cheaper to have a buddy act as the same kind of tool, but not everyone has a buddy in their life.


That being said, 95% of the people I see using a trainer at my gym are no longer using the gym 6 months later. So, there's that.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Usually I eat my oatmeal just in a bowl of milk like it were cereal.. then last night I read people actually *gasp* cook/microwave their oatmeal.. so I tried it this morning. Hm, well warm milk sucks but I guess mushy, squishy oatmeal isn't that bad. Bleh.
 

ToxicAdam

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Usually I eat my oatmeal just in a bowl of milk like it were cereal.. then last night I read people actually *gasp* cook/microwave their oatmeal.. so I tried it this morning. Hm, well warm milk sucks but I guess mushy, squishy oatmeal isn't that bad. Bleh.

Are you sure the microwave people weren't using water? That's how I make my kids oatmeal in the morning. They still like it (with a pinch of sugar/cinammon for taste).
 

Enco

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Usually I eat my oatmeal just in a bowl of milk like it were cereal.. then last night I read people actually *gasp* cook/microwave their oatmeal.. so I tried it this morning. Hm, well warm milk sucks but I guess mushy, squishy oatmeal isn't that bad. Bleh.
Cold milk + oatmeal >>>>>>>>>>> cooked oatmeal

It's not even close. Warm oatmeal tastes like crap. Cold oatmeal is refreshing and tasty.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Are you sure the microwave people weren't using water? That's how I make my kids oatmeal in the morning. They still like it (with a pinch of sugar/cinammon for taste).

I read people use both, but I cannot imagine eating anything grainy or cereal-like in water.. the fuck..

Also read people put it in their shakes and then curse their idiot selves because of how chunky and and impossible to drink they become unless they soak them for 20 minutes.

I just never knew oatmeal was such a chore for people. Bowl->milk->oatmeal is about it for me. Why involve appliances at all.. =O
 

Petrie

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I read people use both, but I cannot imagine eating anything grainy or cereal-like in water.. the fuck..

Also read people put it in their shakes and then curse their idiot selves because of how chunky and and impossible to drink they become unless they soak them for 20 minutes.

I just never knew oatmeal was such a chore for people. Bowl->milk->oatmeal is about it for me. Why involve appliances at all.. =O

Are we talking quick oats or steel cut oats here? I can't imagine trying to choke down steel cut oats without cooking,
 

mooooose

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So when I bulk... what do I eat? I'm down to 151 (from a hefty 168) and once I get to the 140 to 145 area, I will slow down on my cut. Do I just MORE of what I've been eating now? Because I still stuff myself, I just avoid carbs. I eat a ton of chicken, beef, fish, turkey, eggs, oatmeal, salad, veggies, fruit, etc. I just avoid pasta and most bread. I eat a little every other day.

I can't imagine eating much more. So what do I add? Low glycemic carbs? Sweet potatoes, brown rice, what else? Is that enough to get the calories and macros in? How many g of carbs should I be looking for a day for bulking?
 

I'm an expert

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I just use normal rolled oats, not steel cut. Not quick or instant though.. that stuff just melts in milk, no texture.
 
Shit, I'm out of propane for the grill. Looks like I'm cooking my salmon in the oven. What's the best way to do this? Olive oil it up and put it on a glass dish at 350F? Or wrap it in foil?

I know a fella who can hook you up with a great deal on propane, and propane accessories.
 
So my gym is closed for the week due to the owner going on vacation so I decided to actually run outside. I downloaded zombies, run! and endomondo before hand to try them out as I don't like running. Zombies is soooo fun, I paired it up with the 28 days later soundtrack, and I ended up running a lot longer than expected. I went through the first three chapters. especially cool was when I reached the end of the trail at my park and it leads to a empty construction site and I got super paranoid, but not of zombies but muggers lol. the only thing is I wish I could set the difficulty or something cause I feel like the zombies are never even close to catching me. despite that i'm really looking forward to running again tomorrow.

anyways, endomondo is rad as well but there's no routes in my area and I have no friends on here. any one here use it?
 

andycapps

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What abdominal exercises do you guys do when you do them? There's the old fashioned crunches and situps, but people say they're bad for your back. I have access to a reverse incline bench that I've done them on before, of course my floor, and a chin up bar (could do leg-ups or whatever they call them). How about situps on the reverse incline while holding a 25 pound weight? Worth it or no?

alex chilton said:
anyways, endomondo is rad as well but there's no routes in my area and I have no friends on here. any one here use it?

I use it, though usually only a couple times a week when I do cardio. I think the username is the same as here. If you're running, just go run on the sidewalk, you don't really need routes. If you're cycling that's a little different, but I usually just hit the road and avoid busy streets if possible.
 
What abdominal exercises do you guys do when you do them? There's the old fashioned crunches and situps, but people say they're bad for your back. I have access to a reverse incline bench that I've done them on before, of course my floor, and a chin up bar (could do leg-ups or whatever they call them). How about situps on the reverse incline while holding a 25 pound weight? Worth it or no?

They're not if you do back exercises and strengthen your back as well.
 

ldcommando

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What abdominal exercises do you guys do when you do them? There's the old fashioned crunches and situps, but people say they're bad for your back. I have access to a reverse incline bench that I've done them on before, of course my floor, and a chin up bar (could do leg-ups or whatever they call them). How about situps on the reverse incline while holding a 25 pound weight? Worth it or no?

Ab. Wheel
 

andycapps

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They're not if you do back exercises and strengthen your back as well.

Doing that via deadlifts, bent over rows, a few others.

BTW, I don't think I have the strength to do leg-ups or whatever they're called where you hang from a chin up bar and bring your knees to your chest. Maybe eventually, but I've been doing bodyweight stuff with Insanity and have just started weightlifting again earlier this week. I may just do some of the Insanity ab exercises and integrate a few with some weights. Probably just do abs once, maybe twice a week.
 
I'm sorry, but what does the LeanGains article have anything to do with being a virgin?

Physical form of the author is extremely unattractive to women, as evidenced by numerous surveys about various male body types. I make comments purely on his body type, not personality, etc. Also, seems great for people who want to sculp their body.
 

Kyaw

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Doing that via deadlifts, bent over rows, a few others.

BTW, I don't think I have the strength to do leg-ups or whatever they're called where you hang from a chin up bar and bring your knees to your chest. Maybe eventually, but I've been doing bodyweight stuff with Insanity and have just started weightlifting again earlier this week. I may just do some of the Insanity ab exercises and integrate a few with some weights. Probably just do abs once, maybe twice a week.

You can do leg raises on the decline bench. Also you can do planks.
Don't fuss so much over abs as you need to lose body fat for them to show.
 
Physical form of the author is extremely unattractive to women, as evidenced by numerous surveys about various male body types. I make comments purely on his body type, not personality, etc. Also, seems great for people who want to sculp their body.

You can still follow the advice though. You don't have to cut down to his levels, but his knowledge on the subject is pretty solid.
 

kylej

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who is that?

And regarding aesthetics, that dood pretty much has my ideal body type. Just big and strong.

Lu Xiaojun.

lu-xiaojun-2009-11-24-7-43-33.jpg
 
You can still follow the advice though. You don't have to cut down to his levels, but his knowledge on the subject is pretty solid.

Plus I hate when people act like you can accidentally fall into the being that big and that cut.

I constantly see people saying like "Oh I don't want to get too bulky, so ill just do 10 lbs and 150 reps"

Some people have absolutely no concept of just how hard you have to work and how closely you have to stick to a diet to look like that.

Don't want to look like that? Fine, don't eat 3000+ lean calories a day, and you won't have any issues.
 

Petrie

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Plus I hate when people act like you can accidentally fall into the being that big and that cut.

I constantly see people saying like "Oh I don't want to get too bulky, so ill just do 10 lbs and 150 reps"

Some people have absolutely no concept of just how hard you have to work and how closely you have to stick to a diet to look like that.

Don't want to look like that? Fine, don't eat 3000+ lean calories a day, and you won't have any issues.

This over and over. It won't happen by mistake dimwits. That shit takes years and years of incredibly precise training and diet.
 

Veezy

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Physical form of the author is extremely unattractive to women, as evidenced by numerous surveys about various male body types. I make comments purely on his body type, not personality, etc. Also, seems great for people who want to sculp their body.

So, you wont take advice on a subject about becoming a more lean and muscular man because the same man has used his experience down to the absolute extreme?

Dude, come on.

EDIT: And, I'm sorry, I don't know what females you're talking to, but if you think this guy:

Has an issue pulling whatever sex he's attracted to due to how his physique looks, I think you need to check your texts. He's in great shape and doesn't have roid gut.
 

andycapps

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You can do leg raises on the decline bench. Also you can do planks.
Don't fuss so much over abs as you need to lose body fat for them to show.

Oh I'm not too worried about it, I just want to do some work on them so that when I lose the last bit of the weight I want to, that they'll be there. I mean, they're there now, but I want to give them a little bit of isolation work in addition to what they're getting on deadlifts and a few others.

How do you do leg raises on the decline bench? Just put your hands behind you on the floor and then bring your legs up? How about planks on the decline? If you happen to have a link showing a diagram that wouldn't hurt.
 

Petrie

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Has an issue pulling whatever sex he's attracted to due to how his physique looks, I think you need to check your texts. He's in great shape and doesn't have roid gut.

If studies and surveys are to be believed, he is right, women tend to prefer a less ripped physique than that.
 
What abdominal exercises do you guys do when you do them? There's the old fashioned crunches and situps, but people say they're bad for your back. I have access to a reverse incline bench that I've done them on before, of course my floor, and a chin up bar (could do leg-ups or whatever they call them). How about situps on the reverse incline while holding a 25 pound weight? Worth it or no?

I do decline situps holding a 40lb DB, and my abs are amazing. No back problems, either.
 
If studies and surveys are to be believed, he is right, women tend to prefer a less ripped physique than that.

Someone posted this in the girl thread saying that this physique is ideal:

NByjF.jpg


and that anything bigger is too bulky. I find the guy to be pretty skinny and lacking real muscular development, but that's just me. Different strokes for different folks.
 

Petrie

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Someone posted this in the girl thread saying that this physique is ideal:

NByjF.jpg


and that anything bigger is too bulky. I find the guy to be pretty skinny and lacking real muscular development, but that's just me. Different strokes for different folks.

Unfortunately for us, the data out there seems to agree. Won't stop me from getting bigger though.
 

rando14

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Guys, come on, this argument about "being too bulky for girls" has happened time and time again. Lift for whatever fitness ideal you want and don't worry about what other people think.
 
Guys, come on, this argument about "being too bulky for girls" has happened time and time again. Lift for whatever fitness ideal you want and don't worry about what other people think.

Oh I agree 100% but I always find this talk interesting. I don't really see any arguments, just friendly banter =)
 

Veezy

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If studies and surveys are to be believed, he is right, women tend to prefer a less ripped physique than that.

While that might be a "preference," it's not like looking that is a detriment. As in, him standing next to regular looking joe isn't going to result in "yeah, I needs me the guy that doesn't move at all. That other dude is just too ripped."

So, I'll contented that particular physique may not be the absolute best way to look if your primary and sole goal of fitness is to try and get laid. However, working toward the super ripped goal, then stopping when you're happy, is going to get you to the kinda ripped goal faster than saying "I don't want to work too hard I should take it easy, I may not get laid and I'll get too ripped!"
 

agrajag

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Physical form of the author is extremely unattractive to women, as evidenced by numerous surveys about various male body types. I make comments purely on his body type, not personality, etc. Also, seems great for people who want to sculp their body.

I'm sorry (no I'm not), but what a dumb post! Did you read the article? This is a quote from it.

I hate to bust your bubble lil' buddy, but women don't give a shit beyond a guy looking reasonably fit. Lower than 10-12% body fat won't make an ounce of a difference. If women is your main motivation for dieting, don't bother getting shredded. Women have similar delusions in terms of thinking men like them super-skinny.

Training to be liked by others is a very poor motivational factor in itself. You need internal motivation, not external. No one that ends up making something out of his or hers physique, something impressive and head-turning, gets there by training to get liked by others. It might have started out as such, but it changes.

Also, you think you're going to look like him if you follow his advice? Whether you're trying to look that shredded or not, the man clearly knows what he's doing and it'd be wise to listen up. Maybe look at some of his clients, they all have different goals and don't necessarily want to look like him.
 

Petrie

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Oh I agree 100% but I always find this talk interesting. I don't really see any arguments, just friendly banter =)

Yeah I wasn't arguing. I just follow data, I'm logical at my heart. The data says women don't like guys that ripped, but I don't care. I'd kill for that physique.
 
Alright Gaf, Since the beginning of May I was 260 Pounds. Today I am 219. I need to lose 19 pounds. Is this possible before September?!

To give you an Idea of how I workout

Day One : Chest and Triceps Cardio 40 min
Day Two: Biceps and Back Cardio 40 min
Day Three: Legs ( Light) Cardio 20 min
Day 4: Rest
Day Five: Shoulders, Abs and Calves Cardio 40 min
Day Six: Legs (Heavy) Cardio 20 min
 

andycapps

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Alright Gaf, Since the beginning of May I was 260 Pounds. Today I am 219. I need to lose 19 pounds. Is this possible before September?!

To give you an Idea of how I workout

Day One : Chest and Triceps Cardio 40 min
Day Two: Biceps and Back Cardio 40 min
Day Three: Legs ( Light) Cardio 20 min
Day 4: Rest
Day Five: Shoulders, Abs and Calves Cardio 40 min
Day Six: Legs (Heavy) Cardio 20 min

Probably not healthy to try to lose 20 pounds in one month. Why do you have to lose it by then? Good work so far, btw.
 

despire

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Someone posted this in the girl thread saying that this physique is ideal:

NByjF.jpg


and that anything bigger is too bulky. I find the guy to be pretty skinny and lacking real muscular development, but that's just me. Different strokes for different folks.

My GF just said he looks too gay in this picture and said that she'd prefer if I'd look like (lean) Jim Wendler someday :p

She also said that a man should look like a man.

LeanJimWEndler-450x600.jpg
 

Violater

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Alright Gaf, Since the beginning of May I was 260 Pounds. Today I am 219. I need to lose 19 pounds. Is this possible before September?!

To give you an Idea of how I workout

Day One : Chest and Triceps Cardio 40 min
Day Two: Biceps and Back Cardio 40 min
Day Three: Legs ( Light) Cardio 20 min
Day 4: Rest
Day Five: Shoulders, Abs and Calves Cardio 40 min
Day Six: Legs (Heavy) Cardio 20 min

Ughh.. I wish I didnt have so much shit going on so I could work out 6 days a week.


My GF just said he looks too gay in this picture and said that she'd prefer if I'd look like (lean) Jim Wendler someday :p

She also said that a man should look like a man.

http://crossfitbattlefield.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/LeanJimWEndler-450x600.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

She's lying to you bra, right now she's googling that dude in the bathroom.jk
Seriously I don't see anything wrong with that body type, I wish I could get lean and slender like that.
As it is my torso is just looks bloated, maybe I need a cleanse or something.
 
Probably not healthy to try to lose 20 pounds in one month. Why do you have to lose it by then? Good work so far, btw.

I start my masters at the beginning of sept and it was a goal of mine to reach 200 pounds before the end. It sort of a test for me and I'm the type who tries to reach it.
 
I work at Sports Authority here in FL, and it basically breaks down like this from what I've seen:

-The really bulky guys who are tanned and plastered with tattoos. Some have shaved heads, others don't. The women with them are trailer trash.

-Very athletic bulky guys who played sports in HS/college. Their women are a bit classier. The southern type; natural beauty.

-Really douchebag ripped guys who act like a member of Jersey Shore. Their women are pretty much like themselves, except a woman.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Fitness GAF talking about women's interests might actually be worse than PUA GAF.. =/
 

Violater

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I start my masters at the beginning of sept and it was a goal of mine to reach 200 pounds before the end. It sort of a test for me and I'm the type who tries to reach it.

Hahah, your masters will be your weight loss program trust me.
Well I guess depending on your major.
I was down 15 lbs from where I am right now during during the final revisions of my thesis.
Good luck to you.
 

andycapps

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I start my masters at the beginning of sept and it was a goal of mine to reach 200 pounds before the end. It sort of a test for me and I'm the type who tries to reach it.

I think it's a really good goal, and I have some weight to lose as well. But I don't think it's good for your body to lose 20 pounds in a month. Your skin won't be able to keep up with it. I'd just keep doing what you're doing and let the weight take it's course.
 
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