What I've been doing is I'll set a timer and do a couple of pull ups and then hang afterwards, until the timer goes off. I'll add a few seconds to the timer and a rep or two more every couple of days. It seems to be working. I've gotten up to being able to hang for 51 seconds until my grip starts giving in. In the meanwhile, I'm going to do reverse grip chins for sets on my back days and just do wide grip lat pulldowns as assistance until my back gets strong enough to where I can do pullups for sets. Thoughts?
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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One of the many perks of being half black. I put on muscle like a motherfucker
Fat loss on the other hand, has been a bitch.
I am the exact opposite, I can lose weight and fat with 2 or 3 cardio sessions, easy, but putting on muscle.... that will take me years, I am aware but I won't think about it and go with the line of thought: "it's a way of life" and just keep at it...
before (starting point May 25, 2012):
after (Today, almost 10 weeks later):
I guess I'll have to eat thousands of boiled eggs, Tuna and protein shakes to build a bit of muscles on my chest and arms
..BTW, I tried what some guys here suggested, to not workout the same bodypart on a daily basis (duuh! I know, lol)... needless to say, workout is more intense and more effective and I might be wrong, but it seems like changes in the body are slower but more noticeable... I am pleased so far. I'll go cardio-only on days off.
I know I've been a ghost in here but life got in the way of my working out. Just got back to it today after a month layoff and did my usual routine at ~90% of what it was at my peak.
My legs are wrecked. They'll be slightly sore tomorrow but it feels good to be back in the thick of things. Gonna run too. A lot.
My legs are wrecked. They'll be slightly sore tomorrow but it feels good to be back in the thick of things. Gonna run too. A lot.
Yeah, I know this is an old video, but I really enjoy it. I stumbled on it again this evening. Great motivation, I think.
Motivation for Success: Uncomfortable vs Exhaustion
"So you wanna be successful, huh?"
Motivation for Success: Uncomfortable vs Exhaustion
"So you wanna be successful, huh?"
Some people keep saying no cardio while bulking (others have told me a bit of cardio wouldn't hurt) but I think I'm going to start throwing one day a week for 5 minutes of HIIT (cause that's probably how long I'd last, I'll up it every week). I started bulking 10 weeks ago at 18% bodyfat and I feel like I've probably gone up to 20+% which is not what I want to do. Think I'd rather cut down my body fat than spending months to a year slowly chubbing up with some muscle underneath :/. I think I'm around 160-168 pounds now (I can't say exactly because of my faulty scale), and I think I'm fine sitting at 5'11" 160 pounds with lower bodyfat.
I tried googling that line and can't make anything out of it
(supposedly it's from a show but I've never seen it, so no context there for me).EDIT: I was telling a friend of mine about your line and he doesn't know or understand the meaning of it either but he did suggest me to ask you if you were being an ass, hehe.
Mecha_Infantry
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What time you do it in?
I used to be a little quick for my size back in the day but not now
counting while sprinting? youre doing it wrong
When you're moving as slow as I am, you can take liberties.
AdventureRacing
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I've done it in 10.8. Kinda gave up after that for years. I'm training again now and i'm planning to enter a few competitions early next year. I really want to enter the stawell gift.
First day of eating more on my cut.
Three eggs, three pieces of bacon a few minutes ago
I'll have some Greek yogurt and whey before the gym.
Tuna and brown rice stir fry after the gym
Not sure on dinner yet, but another whey shake at night puts me at 1200 before factoring in dinner. If I need more I'll eat 1/4 cup of almonds.
Three eggs, three pieces of bacon a few minutes ago
I'll have some Greek yogurt and whey before the gym.
Tuna and brown rice stir fry after the gym
Not sure on dinner yet, but another whey shake at night puts me at 1200 before factoring in dinner. If I need more I'll eat 1/4 cup of almonds.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I have to ask.. does bacon in that breakfast have some special nutritional/metabolism purpose? Just like bacon? Honest question.
It's bacon. It's fucking awesome.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Says the guy who chastised me for protein bars. -_-
You're comparing protein bars full of artificial crap/sugar/etc to a solid source of protein and fat in bacon?
Will wonders never cease.
I won't eat it while on a cut, but there's nothing inherently wrong with bacon.
Even better!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Alright, here it is gents.
218 today, down from 246 in January 28 lbs total. Most of that since May.
Here are then January shirtless pics.
Here are the now pictures.
Quads are 26 inches
Waist is 34 inches
Calves and biceps are 16 inches (had wife measure all.)
Not exactly where I wanted to be, but it's at least an improvement.
I'm still pulling 500+, benching upper 300s (370+), squatting around 400ish (really took a hit) and still military pressing 230.
And one last pic with me with a god damned shirt on.
218 today, down from 246 in January 28 lbs total. Most of that since May.
Here are then January shirtless pics.
Here are the now pictures.
Quads are 26 inches
Waist is 34 inches
Calves and biceps are 16 inches (had wife measure all.)
Not exactly where I wanted to be, but it's at least an improvement.
I'm still pulling 500+, benching upper 300s (370+), squatting around 400ish (really took a hit) and still military pressing 230.
And one last pic with me with a god damned shirt on.
When I do eat bacon I get the Costco bacon and eat two pieces with 2 eggs 1 egg white.
http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/nutrition-calories/food/kirkland/bacon/
Only 80 calories and a nice source of fat to keep me fueled until lunch.
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Alien, holy shit dude. Congratulations on your progress. You're looking great...what does the wife think?
HarryHengst
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With what we are feeding cows these days i wouldnt say its that much healthier to be honest.
Wow we could've been body twins.
Before I started losing weight and subsequently cutting :
I weighed about 250 lbs, like you.
My bench was 320 lbs and military press 220 lbs.
Now I'm down to 145 lbs after two years but my bench has gone down to barely above 200 lbs and I can't even do military press due to my messed up right shoulder. Feels good/bad man :/
I really need to dig out my before pic, there's this one shirtless pic I took that has me looking pretty much exactly like your 1st pic. It's on a discarded HDD that I need to find zzzz
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1. Bacon doesn't come from cows
2. You can buy organic bacon if you're worried and want antibiotic-free, hormone-free, grass-fed (or whatever the pig equivalent of that is) pork.
:lol I was about to say, beef bacon? Doesn't sound half bad!
But seriously, is bacon something that should be cut out completely on a cut? If yes, what should it be replaced with (or just replaced completely with Canadian). Calorie wise theyre about the same, but the bacon obviously has more fat. Or should it really not matter as long as it falls in my macros.
But seriously, is bacon something that should be cut out completely on a cut? If yes, what should it be replaced with (or just replaced completely with Canadian). Calorie wise theyre about the same, but the bacon obviously has more fat. Or should it really not matter as long as it falls in my macros.
Let me know if you think I'm doing too much. Right now, I'm doing 5/3/1 split over four sessions:
Squat (3 assist lifts)
Military Press (3 assist lifts)
Deadlift (3 assist lifts)
Bench (3 assist lifts)
I typically do Squat on Day 1, Military on Day 2, Day 3&4 are 5K runs and 1K swims (together), Day 5 is Deadlift and a 3K run, Day 6 is Bench and a 1K swim, and I may rest on Day 7 or a I may swim and run.
I'm training for a triatholon, so I need to make sure I'm getting my cardio in. I am going to add biking into the mix soon as a I subsititue to the run.
Squat (3 assist lifts)
Military Press (3 assist lifts)
Deadlift (3 assist lifts)
Bench (3 assist lifts)
I typically do Squat on Day 1, Military on Day 2, Day 3&4 are 5K runs and 1K swims (together), Day 5 is Deadlift and a 3K run, Day 6 is Bench and a 1K swim, and I may rest on Day 7 or a I may swim and run.
I'm training for a triatholon, so I need to make sure I'm getting my cardio in. I am going to add biking into the mix soon as a I subsititue to the run.
Man, you guys doing over 300 pounds on bench depress me. I started last week and my bench is about half that. I guess this is what I get for doing bodyweight stuff with Insanity for about a year. I do have long arms so I've heard that can be a disadvantage for some. My legs and back are much stronger than my chest and tri's.
TheDarkStark
Member
I doubt that 2 strips of bacon is going to kill you; However not all fat is created equal, and bacon fat is among the worst.
You want healthy fats: Fish, Avocado, Nuts, Legumes, Olive oil.
Over a short period of time it probably makes little or no difference, over the long haul it definitely will.
Even over the long haul, it will have little effect as long as the rest of his diet is healthy
You started last week and you are depressed that guys who have done this for years bench more than you do?
Hm, I'll definitely roll with Canadian more often then, and keep bacon as a sometimes.
I definitely have anxiety issues, I need to learn to relax. The thought of eating more calories has me feeling panicked, even though I'm mentally telling myself it's alright. It's funny today I weighed in at 185, same weight as the end of may.
If I'm 187-188 in 2 weeks after doing this...well, I really don't know what I'll do.
Sorry to drop all the bitching here amongst the positivity. I just need some people to vent to. Thanks guys.
I definitely have anxiety issues, I need to learn to relax. The thought of eating more calories has me feeling panicked, even though I'm mentally telling myself it's alright. It's funny today I weighed in at 185, same weight as the end of may.
If I'm 187-188 in 2 weeks after doing this...well, I really don't know what I'll do.
Sorry to drop all the bitching here amongst the positivity. I just need some people to vent to. Thanks guys.
TheDarkStark
Member
When you're only eating like 1700 calories, you need as much nourishment as you can get, and bacon offers none.
He will still be "healthy" sure, but if you want to maximize your fat loss while preserving muscle on a cut, every little bit counts.
It's not something to obsess over though, he asked and I gave my opinion.
mirin that pelt
I'm not saying it's logical, and I'm not depressed about it. Like most, I wish I could instantly be at that level, but obviously it's going to take a lot of consistent workouts of increasing at small amounts at a time.
For your assistance lifts, are you doing the Boring But Big template (5/3/1 set plus 5x10 @ 50% of max) plus 3 assistance exercises or just the 5/3/1 sets and then 3 assistance? I think your assistance work would be the determinant of whether you are doing too much. Frankly, I don't think it's too bad since you aren't running or swimming too far, but I don't know how I would handle doing deadlift 5/3/1 + 5x10 + 3 assistance and THEN running. I would switch the running on that day to your bench day. I would rest on Day 7 too.
I cut bacon out simply because it has a low protein to calorie ratio, and I'd just personally rather save that type of thing for a burger or steak if I'm on a cut. There is no problem with bacon on a cut. It's just a personal preference.
Most of my assistance work is going to be either chins, dips, rows, or curls depending on the day. I'm not going to do the 5x10@50%, just the 3 other lifts.
I'm going to have to figure out how to maximzie the cardio around squats as my legs are always toast the day after.
FallingEdge
Member
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanmooooooooooooooooode!
Looking great dood. With regards to the biceps, is that flexing or just cold?
As for my training, I'm in a weird state. I started up with 5/3/1 and BBB but I just don't feel like going down that route. Maybe drop BBB? Maybe just drop 5/3/1 and go back to RPT? I'm in a lull right now, which kinda sucks.
Oh no, the bacon argument and the evils of animal fat.
Also, Shogun reminds of me a bouncer at a biker bar.
Did it for a year or so. Buy the book about PSMF about Lyle McDonald titled "The Rapid Fat Loss Diet." Follow his instructions to the letter. Since you're leaner, you'll only be able to do it for 12 day cycles.
Also, Shogun reminds of me a bouncer at a biker bar.
Did it for a year or so. Buy the book about PSMF about Lyle McDonald titled "The Rapid Fat Loss Diet." Follow his instructions to the letter. Since you're leaner, you'll only be able to do it for 12 day cycles.
Oh, not this shit again.
I guess the results from these bars are artificial too.
It's food. It's protein. It's carbs.
Poindexter
Member
Nothing wrong with bacon on a cut as long as you still hit your macros. I eat 3 pieces of thick sliced bacon every morning. It's 240 calories and only 12 grams of protein. But it's delicious and makes my morning.
That's how I see it...but if you're low on the fat macros you'll probably need to make a sacrifice somewhere else in the day. I think of all that as points to spend on various meals through the day.
Nutritional accounting. =P
Thanks and yeah I'm definitely going to take it seriously and follow his protocols. Not fucking around because I want to get the most out of it. Going to do 12 days followed by a 2 day refeed and just take it from there. Did you take an EC stack? I'm thinking of trying it to help get this stubborn fat off. Body just won't go below 125.
Fucked up my foot today at work. Nothing too serious though but it could have been fractured. Luckily it didn't. There was this tall steel pipe that decided to fell on it. Some bruising but it's not hurting too seriously at the moment. Probably mighty sore tomorrow.
Anyway this sucks because I probably can't deadlift tomorrow but at least I can do all the upper body stuff. But I guess I was lucky since a fractured foot would keep me off squats and deadlifts for quite some time..
Anyway this sucks because I probably can't deadlift tomorrow but at least I can do all the upper body stuff. But I guess I was lucky since a fractured foot would keep me off squats and deadlifts for quite some time..
125? Just how low are you trying to go here?
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