Yeah, but don't be like Sean and post progress updates and pics of your SO that ends up shaming us.
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Fitness |OT8| Dad Bods, Bulge Swelfies, and Wait...Do you even lift bro?
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Yeah, but don't be like Sean and post progress updates and pics of your SO that ends up shaming us.
Got some questions for you guys: would intermittent fasting be okay for building muscle and burning fat? Or is that all dependent on the actual caloric deficit/surplus you have? I'm interested in burning fat, but I also want to be stronger. Am I going to have to choose one, and then follow with the other later?
Does she actually intend to follow a program? It sounds like she has a good base, but as you know, she'll need more than a gym visit every month or two to progress.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Haha, trust me, I've explained that to her. I think she's more excited to begin a program because I've really driven home the point that I think she's got an excellent base, and that she could realize true gains if she was to work out just three times a week following a very basic program. I would be there with her the whole way, of course. I'm also working with her so she gets her first pull-up, which is exciting!
Ah, Drunken Fist.
Cool. Did she seem to enjoy the workouts? If so, I imagine the steady string of PRs she'll set early on will hook her fairly quickly.
mdsfx
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Lol... Yeah. It just happens,
I loved Muay Thai, but hated some of the other students who showed up wearing Tapout and MMA shirts ready to prove something after having watched Bloodsport the previous night in a drunken stupor.
We are doing partnered core work (locked ankles) and the guy starts asking if we should punch each other in the gut at the top of every sit up. Seriously?
Psychotext
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Staying at sub 10% isn't generally a good idea for most people. You're more prone to injury in that zone... and unless you're a regular fitness model that's really not that much point as most people still look great around12%
That is rather interesting. How are you more likely to be injured?
mdsfx
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Yeah I mean I'm just under 10% and I'm not inj... Oh wait.
Considering the amount of times I've fallen on my ass, I glad my over 10% posterior is able to cushion the impact.
I would have been broken in half by now.
mdsfx
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Nice! That's awesome. How long did that take?
Psychotext
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It's mostly due to running at a constant calorific deficit to stay there, as your body isn't able to repair / recover properly. Also, the lower your body fat goes, the more at risk of illness you are, though I believe you need to go pretty low for that to happen. Staying at very low body fat is a much bigger issue for women than men though.
Not entirely sure how it would factor in with the very large amounts of fat you consume though. Maybe it would be enough to offset any problems at low body fat.
entremet
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5 weeks.
It was quick at first since I did keto. I'm just calorie counting now and just doing more slower weigh loss-3 pounds per week.
Added some running and biking too.
mdsfx
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mdsfx
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This is really interesting. I was pondering exactly this since I was cutting and injured. How can my body repair itself if it doesn't get enough? I'm hoping the alternating surplus/ deficit program might help
Whoa. Great job!
Sounds like you need more glute work. Check with brolic.
Hmm, maybe I'm underestimating how I'll look at 12%.
How is running at a deficit at a lower bf% different then higher? What does the extra body fat do to help you repair? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for someone who is fully keto adapted.
I'd think the fasting and higher fat intake would make things much easier.
Cosmic Bus
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Diagnosed with rotator cuff tendinitis (aka swimmers/tennis shoulder, or in my case, baker's shoulder) yesterday. My gym time has been limited for a while, and I guess this kills it completely. Can't bench, can't deadlift, can't get anything up over my head without a lot of pain.
Anyone ever had to deal with this before? I'm going to do occasional physical therapy but without being able to ever truly rest or recover my shoulder since it's such a major part of my job, I get the sense this is now going to be a chronic thing for many more years.
Anyone ever had to deal with this before? I'm going to do occasional physical therapy but without being able to ever truly rest or recover my shoulder since it's such a major part of my job, I get the sense this is now going to be a chronic thing for many more years.
Psychotext
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Your body will avoid calling on the remaining reserves after a while (your organs need that fat, so it's not a good idea to lose all of it), fully keto adapted or not. That's why crazy low body fat percentages are so hard to get to (maintaining muscle mass) without drug assistance.
That said, if you think keto will allow you to stay sub 10% with no drawbacks, go for it.
That said, if you think keto will allow you to stay sub 10% with no drawbacks, go for it.
Every picture you see of me not bulking is somewhere between 10-12%
Psychotext
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Bringing sexy back.
BTW, my vitamix arrives Monday. Prepare for low carb ice creamathon.
I'll be researching this weekend.
Interesting. Will definitely be looking into this.
One of us has genetics that make everything easy. The other one is me.
But yeah I haven't considered what I'll look like at 12%. Might be interesting.
I'll be researching this weekend.
Interesting. Will definitely be looking into this.
One of us has genetics that make everything easy. The other one is me.
But yeah I haven't considered what I'll look like at 12%. Might be interesting.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Yeah, she enjoyed the workout. Again, mostly because I was there. But she was excited when I told her the weights she was lifting. I'm sure she'll get hooked once she begins breaking PRs.
Have you seen Brolic lately? I'll look to MTP for booty work.
I started my first serious cut ever some 10 days ago and it's ridiculous how the body changes.
When I see my reflection casually on a car window or just about anywhere, I am really looking different, my build is changing, I am finally looking like I lift, not just on a pump, under the right light and with a bikini tank top. I mean with regular clothes on!
I was so wrong, I thought I was going to look small and go back to the starting point, this is quite a revelation. I am really, really motivated, so I hope I can show some nice abs and definition here in a month or so.
When I see my reflection casually on a car window or just about anywhere, I am really looking different, my build is changing, I am finally looking like I lift, not just on a pump, under the right light and with a bikini tank top. I mean with regular clothes on!
I was so wrong, I thought I was going to look small and go back to the starting point, this is quite a revelation. I am really, really motivated, so I hope I can show some nice abs and definition here in a month or so.
Haha. I was just using me as a reference but thanks!
Yeah, sometimes I wish I needed to go to the gym more because this 30 out of 31 days a month crap is frustrating! I miss it.
Seriously, get there and see if you're satisfied. The hardest part is getting to that point.
A jacked Sphinx with abs?! Excuse me while I wipe a tear. I remember when you started. You've come so far.
well I hope I can stick to it this time. So far so good, no pastries, no cravings, no shit meals (Pizza, Fast Food, etc).
Drinking more water has been a huge game changer. I changed my 2nd coffe of the day for a 1 ltr. bottle of water and I am more awake than ever and I feel very very well during workout,
Water is one of the key factors in controlling food intake. I agree.
well I hope I can stick to it this time. So far so good, no pastries, no cravings, no shit meals (Pizza, Fast Food, etc).
Drinking more water has been a huge game changer. I changed my 2nd coffe of the day for a 1 ltr. bottle of water and I am more awake than ever and I feel very very well during workout,
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Remember, your 12% may look totally different than someone else's.
Making me blush Szu.
My ass has it's own gravitational pull, avert your eyes or they may be sucked in.
Psychotext
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My weight loss seems to have paused this week, which is odd, because the week before I was worried that it was going too fast. Oh well, will knock off a few more calories next week and hopefully continue.
entremet
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Yeah. I really hate that percentage pic people post.
Also the fact that the pic includes bf% only sustainable for a short time and also aided by drugs.
mdsfx
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I actually didn't know this. Ignorant I know. Are you saying you can only sustain ultra low body fat with drugs?
Psychotext
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How low and how long?
...and drugs certainly help.
...and drugs certainly help.
Anyone else just guess their body fat all the time? I can't use a caliper to save my effing life.
Sucks, man.
Also, out of curiosity, could someone summarize what the majority of you guys view as being "clean carbs" and "dirty carbs"? Obviously I stay away from anything with added sugar, but there are some things I can't decide are clean or not:
-Rice (I stick to brown)
-Beans (they have protein, yeah, but also carbs)
-Bread (I try to only eat Ezekiel bread which is supposedly pretty clean)
-Oats
What do you guys think? Should I omit any of those?
Sucks, man.
Also, out of curiosity, could someone summarize what the majority of you guys view as being "clean carbs" and "dirty carbs"? Obviously I stay away from anything with added sugar, but there are some things I can't decide are clean or not:
-Rice (I stick to brown)
-Beans (they have protein, yeah, but also carbs)
-Bread (I try to only eat Ezekiel bread which is supposedly pretty clean)
-Oats
What do you guys think? Should I omit any of those?
Psychotext
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My guess is for most people it comes down to GI (low vs high), whether they know it or not. I tend not to worry too much (bread aside) but I do tend to time my bad carbs (usually pasta) for right after a workout.
Yours for example are all low, aside from the rice, which is moderate (actually right on the border with low, depending on who you believe).
Yours for example are all low, aside from the rice, which is moderate (actually right on the border with low, depending on who you believe).
Good news, bros and broettes! I FINALLY reached 160 lbs. (160.8 to be precise)
This was a very long slog. For some stupid reason I was hovering between 150 and 157-158 for about a year. Now I finally passed that annoying plateau.
This marks a 40 lb. increase since I started working out almost two years ago.
Though I still have a bit to go. I figure another 20 lbs. or so will give me the physique I want.
But yeah, huzzah fitgaf!
This was a very long slog. For some stupid reason I was hovering between 150 and 157-158 for about a year. Now I finally passed that annoying plateau.
This marks a 40 lb. increase since I started working out almost two years ago.
Though I still have a bit to go. I figure another 20 lbs. or so will give me the physique I want.
But yeah, huzzah fitgaf!
Psychotext
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BEEEFCAKE.
mdsfx
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That's amazing. Keep it up man. You're my inspiration. I will start bulking at the end of summer for the first time with enough knowledge to maybe do it right!
Good shit man. If you've got it handy, could you post or pm your diet? My friend is about the same weight and cant gain mass to save his life.
I do Steel Cut Oats, Brown Rice, Quinoa, Sweet Potato. Also some berries and apples.
I'm pretty sold on medium to low GI being better for you overall due to the fiber making life easier on your pancreas.
Essentially my thought process is to eat as little as possible added sugar and take it easy on heavier natural sugar stuff like fruits which I save for Post Workout meals(the berries). The apples are so I can drown something in almond butter when I am low on fat and carb macros for the day. Fruit seems to be safer if you eat the skin for fiber reasons.
Ready to be proven wrong but that's what the research is telling me..
Gym was awesome today. Hit 5x335 then 4x380 on deadlift. I possibly could have gotten the 5th rep, but didn't want to risk a rep with bad form. The 4 I got went up clean and really smooth. Super happy. Last time I tried for 5x380 was months ago and I got 1 or 2 reps, so to weigh so much less and lift even heavier is awesome.
Also while I was changing, I noticed that when I push out my abs and tighten up, I can see the top 2 rows of my abs! Didn't have my phone with me lol, but I'll take a pic next time.
Water is essential to success. If I don't drink at least a gallon a day, I pay for it the next day.
Yes, which is why my initial goal is to hit 210, then evaluate from there. What I want to look like and what I will are likely to be very different.
Many people fully keto adapted stay sub 10% year round. I might have a chance.
If it's too good to be true, it usually is.
Also while I was changing, I noticed that when I push out my abs and tighten up, I can see the top 2 rows of my abs! Didn't have my phone with me lol, but I'll take a pic next time.
Water is essential to success. If I don't drink at least a gallon a day, I pay for it the next day.
Yes, which is why my initial goal is to hit 210, then evaluate from there. What I want to look like and what I will are likely to be very different.
Many people fully keto adapted stay sub 10% year round. I might have a chance.
If it's too good to be true, it usually is.
rokkerkory
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I am spent today, was only able to do several good sets on delts. Focused more on reps with lighter weight.
Will push more tomo!
Will push more tomo!
Psychotext
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Someone mentioned an alternate cable fly method earlier. Gave it a go, really didn't like it. Felt like it put a horrible amount of strain on my shoulder joint; no way I'd risk going heavy with it.
Thanks a lot! But are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else? Cause unless I'm mistaken, you're the one with the rocking body that I'm trying to aspire to, haha.
Thanks. And yeah sure I can do that. Just gimme a minute when I'm on break or something.
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