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Florida Man questioned in Boston Marathon bombing shot, killed by FBI

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Mii

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UPDATE:

CNN confirming Tamerlan and the man shot today were involved in a triple homicide 2 years ago:

CNN said:
Deceased Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev participated in a 2011 gruesome triple homicide outside Boston, along with a Chechen killed early Wednesday during a confrontation with the FBI and Massachusetts State Police in Orlando, Florida, a federal law enforcement official told CNN. Ibragim Todashev not only confessed to his direct role in slashing the throats of three people in the killings in Waltham, Massachusetts, he also fingered Tsarnaev in the deaths, the official says.

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From Boston Local News Station WCVB:

ORLANDO, Fla. —A man being questioned in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings was shot and killed in Florida on Tuesday by an FBI agent from Boston when the agent "began to feel threatened," ABC News confirmed.

Khusen Taramov said he and Ibragim Todashev were being questioned as part of the bombings by the FBI official and another law enforcement officer in Orlando.

Taramov said Todashev, 27, knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev because both were MMA fighters.

Taramov said they were interviewed nearly three hours, and at some point, "something went wrong," and Todashev was killed.

"There was some sort of aggressive movement that led the FBI agent to believe he was under threat and he opened fire," the law enforcement official told ABC News.

"(The FBI) took me and my friend, the suspect that got killed. They were talking to us, both of us, right? And they said they need him for a little more, for a couple more hours, and I left, and they told me they're going to bring him back. They never brought him back," Taramiv said.

The FBI confirmed that a person was shot and killed, but would not disclose details about the investigation.

"We are currently responding to a shooting incident involving an FBI special agent," FBI spokesman Dave Couvertier said. "The agent encountered the suspect while conducting official duties. The suspect is deceased."

"When (Todashev) used to live in Boston, they used to hang out -- not hang out -- he knew him. They met a few times because (Todashev) was a MMA fighter and (Tsarnaev) was a boxer. They just knew each other. That's it," said Taramov.

He said Todashev spoke with Tsarnaev one month before the April 15 attack, but adamantly denied that Todashev had anything to do with the bombing.

A Florida connection?
 

Mii

Banned
From the Florida ABC affiliate that first reported the story:

Officials said the special agent was conducting official duties when they encountered a suspect. The suspect, who was not immediately identified by officials, died.

A friend of the suspect said his friend, 27-year-old Ibragim Todashev, was being investigated as part of the Boston bombings and knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev because both were MMA fighters.

The man claims he and Todashev were interviewed by the FBI for nearly three hours on Tuesday.

"He felt inside he was going to get shot," the friend said about Todashev. "I told him, 'Everything is going to be fine, don't worry about it.' He said, 'I have a really bad feeling.'"

The friend said he left the interview and when he came back to the apartments he found that there had been a shooting.

The shooting happened at the Windhover Apartments on Kirkman Road near Conroy Road.

Todashev was arrested earlier this month on charges of aggravated battery.

No further information was immediately available.

Photo of the shot suspect. Apparently the two being questioned both knew Tamerlan through MMA matches.

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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Err... so why was he shot? This doesn't make sense.

Well, there's literally only one justified reason to shoot a person who is being questioned, and that's if the person has a violent outburst and the minimal amount of force required to subdue it safely is to shoot them. So either it's that or the shooting is not justified.
 

Duji

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Well, there's literally only one justified reason to shoot a person who is being questioned, and that's if the person has a violent outburst and the minimal amount of force required to subdue it safely is to shoot them. So either it's that or the shooting is not justified.

Scenario A seems very unlikely to me. How often does that even happen?
 

Madness

Member
Scenario A seems very unlikely to me. How often does that even happen?

More often than not. Especially when you feel the heat on you closing in. How often do you hear about the FBI taking someone out and then actually admitting it and letting it spread over the press.

But it's too early to say, we'll need to hear more.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Scenario A seems very unlikely to me. How often does that even happen?

More often than a federal agent just random taking out his gun and shooting a person being questioned to death in the middle of a videotaped wiretapped room with other agents looking in :p
 

coopolon

Member
More often than a federal agent just random taking out his gun and shooting a person being questioned to death in the middle of a videotaped wiretapped room with other agents looking in :p

It happened at the apartment.

"The shooting happened at the Windhover Condominiums on Kirkman Road near Conroy Road."
 

Tamanon

Banned
Happened at the apartment, not the interrogation room. My guess is the kid came back to the apartment and found the FBI guy doing something he disagreed with sparking an incident.

Will wait for more details.
 
Apparently he wanted to leave to go back to Chechnya, but the FBI urged him not to. Then they shot him. I guess he should have left.
 
Todashev was arrested earlier this month on charges of aggravated battery.

So I'm guessing the likely scenario is that at the apartment some sort of 'push to shove' thing went down... It does seem like this guy was freaking out about something, and I guess he eventually snapped.

Or aliens.
 

Aylinato

Member
So I'm guessing the likely scenario is that at the apartment some sort of 'push to shove' thing went down... It does seem like this guy was freaking out about something, and I guess he eventually snapped.

Or aliens.


Sounds like he was paranoid an thought the best way to escape was to wrestle with the FBI agent
 

Jado

Banned
Probably got fed up for being interrogated for hours without good reason and was told (or not being told) that he would be detained for much longer and had an outburst. "His fault" in other words.
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
This is fairly disturbing.

I'd wait for more details before unpacking the conspiracy theories though.
 

Enron

Banned
conspiracy theories are dumb. if they wanted to keep this guy quiet, he'd have been taken into custody or taken care of immediately after the bombing, not a month later.
 

syllogism

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Taramov said Todashev wanted to fly home to Chechnya, but authorities asked him to stay for one last interview.

"He had a ticket from New York, [and] from there, he was going to go back home. They were pushing him, saying, 'Stay, don't leave.' They said, 'We want to interview you one last time and talk to you a last time.'
One last interview indeed

FBI says the agent sustained "non-life threatening injuries"
 

FoxSpirit

Junior Member
Well, there's literally only one justified reason to shoot a person who is being questioned, and that's if the person has a violent outburst and the minimal amount of force required to subdue it safely is to shoot them. So either it's that or the shooting is not justified.
There is basically no justification to shoot an unarmed man dead, threatening or not.

ESPECIALLY if there are other agents around.
 

cheststrongwell

my cake, fuck off
There is basically no justification to shoot an unarmed man dead, threatening or not.

ESPECIALLY if there are other agents around.
If the guy could beat you to death or wrestle your gun away, I'd say there is justification. Not enough info to form an opinion yet.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Details are needed. The nature of the "threatening motion" determines everything here. If the dude tried to lunge for the agent? Yeah, that's threatening. If the dude jerked and sneezed....then yeah, lets get really mad.
 

syllogism

Member
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...bing-suspect-shot-during-fbi-questioning?lite

The man who was shot, Ibragim Todashev, 27, allegedly attacked an agent with a knife during questioning. He was not suspected of having played any role in the bombing that killed three people and injured scores more in April, but he did confess to being involved in a brutal Boston-area slaying two years ago, investigators said.
Officials say FBI agents were questioning Todashev on Tuesday. He was cooperative at first, they say, but late Tuesday night, he attacked the agent with a knife, who shot and killed him. Officials say Todashev became violent as he was about to sign a written statement based on his confession.
That's probably the 2011 murder that Tamerlan was suspected being involved with
 

Takuan

Member
Aren't suspects frisked/checked for weaponry before these sorts of interrogations? Or was he using a plastic knife?
 
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