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Football•Soccer•Fútbol•Fussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|

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Hixx

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Error said:
you are fucked for WC2014 then...

It's nice to watch big international tournaments at night over here.

Games will kick off earlier. No chance on earth will FIFA miss out on their sweet, sweet broadcasting fees.
 

PaulLFC

Member
Just a quick update for anyone who was interested in joining the FM network game, we've moved discussion over to the community thread here now. We're trying to gauge which league people would prefer to play in and what they think is the fairest way to pick the teams.

There's also a Steam group here if you want to join that also.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
newsguy said:
It's crazy how little love there is for Copa America there is on here. It's almost world cup big for us South Americans. No better way to watch it than live with the announcers.

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Hah nice.
 
Brainfart of a post incoming sorry:

- Diouf is a master troll, this was taken at Rovers training ground:

x2_6ede746


- I'm quite sad what has happened to Arsenal, Wenger built a time the 'right way' in my opinion, almost perfectly crafted with skill and love over time and City look like overtaking them by simply throwing stupid money everywhere, it just seems like they are playing a football manager game with cheats for infinite money on (as a Blackburn fan I can't complain too much although there are massive differences to Jack Walker) If I was a City fan I wouldn't mind at all though, that has to be said. Just seems a shame for Wenger when skill is secondary to cash.

- The best thing about that Youtube video was the comments:

Top Comments

This is the biggest kitchen i have ever seen.


On a semi related note what is the worst decision you remember against your team? Mine has to be Rovers - West Ham at Ewood the season West Ham just scraped to safety, the score was 1-1 when a Wham player had a shot in the box, Tevez (whilst being clearly offside) blocked the ball on the line, the linesman (Mr Devine) gave a goal even though Tevez was offside and the ball didn't nearly cross the line. Either that or in 95 Henning Berg was sent off for a perfect tackle on Lee Sharpe, Cantona scored the penalty :(
 

Fady K

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Anybody watching the Copa America games? It has been quite disappointing. Argentina could have done better, even though Aguero scored the best goal of the tournament so far. Plus, Brazil need to do a LOT better. Anybody seen their game against Venezuela today?? Very disappointed. 0-0, and they missed like 10-12 good chances.

Error said:
you are fucked for WC2014 then...

It's nice to watch big international tournaments at night over here.

I'll have to wake up at 4 am every day. That sucks ass. But it'll be worth it :]
 

newsguy

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Lol I like copa America being disappointing because underdogs just may have a shot. Argentina and Brazil tying gives me hope for my young Colombian squad to advance.
 

Messi

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Error said:
you are fucked for WC2014 then...

It's nice to watch big international tournaments at night over here.

ooh never thought about that, bummer. might actually have to work on going to rio (would love to go see brazil play in brazil)
 
Jeff Albertson said:
I'm quite sad what has happened to Arsenal, Wenger built a time the 'right way' in my opinion, almost perfectly crafted with skill and love over time and City look like overtaking them by simply throwing stupid money everywhere, it just seems like they are playing a football manager game with cheats for infinite money on (as a Blackburn fan I can't complain too much although there are massive differences to Jack Walker) If I was a City fan I wouldn't mind at all though, that has to be said. Just seems a shame for Wenger when skill is secondary to cash.

The frustrating thing is we could have won the Carling Cup, and if we had beat Sunderland and Blackburn at home, could have taken the title race up to the final game of the season. We blew every chance we had to go above United in the league - the difference, you felt, was a single goal to change their season.

I think Samir and Clichy should make an agreement with the club that they'll sign new contracts on the premise the club will significantly strengthen and replace Cesc. Show them names. If the club fails this coming season, then Arsenal will agree to sell them at reasonable prices rather than force them to play through their contract.

This summer really is a turning point for the club. I think these players deserve to leave with something. It'd be an injustice if this project failed
 

elfinke

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Milchmonster said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Q43S-PyOw

Anyone has seen that one? It's hilarious.

I watched it happen live and thought SBS were playing some sketch show, or it was an ad for gatorade or some shit. I honestly just did not know what had happened. Beggars belief how that was missed.

I will be lurking the FM11 network thread also. I've partaken in network CM/FM games before, and they were always great fun, so good luck to you all!
 
Meus Renaissance said:
I think Samir and Clichy should make an agreement with the club that they'll sign new contracts on the premise the club will significantly strengthen and replace Cesc. Show them names. If the club fails this coming season, then Arsenal will agree to sell them at reasonable prices rather than force them to play through their contract.

This summer really is a turning point for the club. I think these players deserve to leave with something. It'd be an injustice if this project failed
The problem with that is the uncertainty. If the club for example say they will bid for Mata and Hazard and do all they can to get them but Mata goes to City for 35m and Hazard to United for 35m...there is nothing Arsenal can do about that. Nasri will then be at the club for the next season most probably disillusioned and not fully committed. The club may agree to sell him next summer but the clubs that wanted him don't want him anymore, they've moved on and don't want to bid that "reasonable" price.

In short, the sport, and just the world I guess, waits for nobody. Nasri is not being promised, but guaranteed a title contending side to play with with big ambitions which are being clearly stated. The only thing that would keep him under an agreement like that is a sense of loyalty...which is a long shot in today's game, and from his side, you can see why he'd be not wholly convinced by any promises made to him.

Wengers project has been admirable. No doubt. Entertaining and commendable. But it was always going to suffer because the man at the helm never put winning first. He admitted as much this past season...and that was a stupid thing to do. Wenger can tell Nasri what he likes. If Nasri, Clichy...whoever...reckon the manager is not 110% dying to win...it'll mean nothing.
 

K1LLER7

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Messi said:
deadline day for cesc today apparently :/

Don't think the moves going to happen until Arsenal find a player of decent quality to take his place. They have wilshere, but Ramseys not played much football and dont think he'll be the fabregas replacement. I think the same things going to happen with regards to nasri and clichy. Once they have the replacements ready, they sell.
Whats happening with the move of Sanchez?
 

Messi

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K1LLER7 said:
Don't think the moves going to happen until Arsenal find a player of decent quality to take his place. They have wilshere, but Ramseys not played much football and dont think he'll be the fabregas replacement. I think the same things going to happen with regards to nasri and clichy. Once they have the replacements ready, they sell.
Whats happening with the move of Sanchez?

Apparently today is the day barcas current offer expires. But I tend to agree with you.

Papers today around here were saying its going down this week (i doubt this) but according to most rumours barca pretty much have him. United apparently pulled out after he said he wanted to go to spain, same with city.

Yurt said:
Are you guys gonna actually pay 45-50m for him now after Madrid's obvious trolling attempt ?

I doubt it, I think 38-39 mil with extras maybe adding up to 45 mil.

Madrid trolling is nothing new :) . But we will have the last laugh just like last season where we pulled the ultimate troll by lifting the liga and champions league trophies. :p
 

K1LLER7

Member
Cesc to barca's going to happen, but wont suprise me if it doesn't happen this week.

sanchez would be cheaper than neymar if what the papers say are true. Barca getting the better deal definately, snachez > Neymar imo. The new brazil team sucks, they seem to rate any player who plays for brazil as the next big star. they'll get better in the future but no where near the 2002 team.
 

Arnie

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Error said:
Cesc is going to barcelona this summer, looks more likely than ever to me.
Yep. Don't know why Arsenal fans are so reluctant to see him go either, it's an inevitability and he's one player who can generate serious revenue for (unlikely) reinvestment. I'd much rather have a player who wants to be at the club than one dreaming of the other side of the world.

If I was Wenger I'd rule with an iron fist, have the three players who want out gone by the end of next week and start placing tangible bids for big players.

Although Cesc deserves to leave with the respect and blessing of the club, he's stayed longer than anyone thought and he's always respected the club's fans and wishes.

Nasri on the other hand is a rat faced, despicable twat. He's had an exceptional six months and suddenly he feels entitled to instant silverware.
 

GQman2121

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Messi said:
I doubt it, I think 38-39 mil with extras maybe adding up to 45 mil.


If the fee ends up being in that range, they need to immediately contact Lille about the availability of Eden Hazard. Even if it it costs them every cent of what they receive from Braca, he's the only young player that has shown glimpses of comparable talent to what they're about to loose.
 

dschalter

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the problem for arsenal is that cesc is worth more than what barca is willing to bid, because barca don't really need more midfielders. if they had bid what he was actually worth he would be long gone.
 
dschalter said:
the problem for arsenal is that cesc is worth more than what barca is willing to bid, because barca don't really need more midfielders. if they had bid what he was actually worth he would be long gone.

I think the fact that Cesc is public about his desire to join Barca is the ace card for Barcelona here
 

GQman2121

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Meus Renaissance said:
I think the fact that Cesc is public about his desire to join Barca is the ace card for Barcelona here

People were quick to say Madrid's interest last week was purely a means to drive the price up; however, that's only because everyone knows the player's intentions. The argument could easily be made that no other teams are showing interest because they know that Cesc will just decline a move.

Basically, Arsenal are going to get fucked here. At this point, it's only a matter of how hard they want it.
 

GorillaJu

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Liverpool's resurgence after losing Torres seems like classic Ewing theory. Kuyt and Maxi Rodriguez scoring hat tricks? Two hat tricks for Maxi? WTF
 

Lightning

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GQman2121 said:
People were quick to say Madrid's interest last week was purely a means to drive the price up; however, that's only because everyone knows the player's intentions. The argument could easily be made that no other teams are showing interest because they know that Cesc will just decline a move.

Basically, Arsenal are going to get fucked here. At this point, it's only a matter of how hard they want it.
Cesc will not force the move through and if Barcelona don't pony up and give Arsenal want they want then I expect Fabregas will keep to his word and do his best for our club again next season and given his known respect for our club and manager I just refuse to think that Cesc would refuse to take the field for us if a deal can't be done. He has shown absolute integrity throughout what has been a very hard time for everyone, including him.

That is my desired result. Cesc should be allowed to go nowhere. We are too close to winning to lose the crown jewel of our side now.
 
Lightning said:
That is my desired result. Cesc should be allowed to go nowhere. We are too close to winning to lose the crown jewel of our side now.

...Winning what?!

Van Persie is more vital to Arsenal's chances of success anyway.
 

Lightning

Banned
Kermit The Dog said:
...Winning what?!

Van Persie is more vital to Arsenal's chances of success anyway.
The premier league? So close last season... made it all the more frustrating that we didn't win it.


And Van Persie is no where near more vital to Arsenal than Fabregas. Not only is Van Persie made of a very delicate material but he's not the same player when Fabregas is not on the pitch making countless chances for him. Van Persie is a class player but Fabregas is just WAY WAY better and that much more important. Van Persie is replaceable, Fabregas is not.
 

Salazar

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Tempted to field a severely weakened side in the league cup in FM.

Slipped from 1st to 4th after a loss to Villa and a 3-3 against Sunderland.
 
Lightning said:
The premier league? So close last season... made it all the more frustrating that we didn't win it.

But surely you'd agree that you'll be less likely to win it this year than last year? Last year was your great chance.

And Van Persie is no where near more vital to Arsenal than Fabregas. Not only is Van Persie made of a very delicate material but he's not the same player when Fabregas is not on the pitch making countless chances for him. Van Persie is a class player but Fabregas is just WAY WAY better and that much more important. Van Persie is replaceable, Fabregas is not.

Perhaps I'm just judging it off last year, when Fabregas always seemed to be injured, and Van Persie seemed their only genuine avenue to goal at times. Could be wrong, that's just how I recall it.
 
HixxSAFC said:
PES6 was the ultimate football game, you heathens.

PES2011 is excellent! A real return to the glory days of the franchise.

Plus, it's tres easy to download and install all the correct names, faces, badges and kits.
 

dschalter

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Kermit The Dog said:
But surely you'd agree that you'll be less likely to win it this year than last year? Last year was your great chance.



Perhaps I'm just judging it off last year, when Fabregas always seemed to be injured, and Van Persie seemed their only genuine avenue to goal at times. Could be wrong, that's just how I recall it.

fabregas is the best in the world at what he does (creating goal scoring chances). van persie not as good a striker as fabregas is a midfielder.

and last year they appeared in the same # of games.
 

Lightning

Banned
Kermit The Dog said:
But surely you'd agree that you'll be less likely to win it this year than last year? Last year was your great chance.
If we hang onto Cesc for another year I don't see why we can't win it.

Man Utd are buying over-priced english players, Man City have money but no intelligence on how to spend it, Chelsea have yet to reveal their hand but with Fabregas I am sure we can match whatever they bring to the table and Liverpool are better under Dalglish but still have a ways to go before being a threat to Arsenal as they are another one in over paying for english players. 35million for Carroll? Fuck off...


Yurt said:
Fabregas is talented and its gonna be hard to replace him.

But how the fuck can Arsenal fans forget this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N42dkvKrSj8&feature=related
Just shameful.. he even faked a tackle/pulled away his leg to let him pass.
Every player makes mistakes and Cesc was a true gentleman and owned up to his mistake. Not to mention that he was playing injured for our benefit because his mere presence lifts the players around him. Okay we didn't win that game but Arsenal and Cesc can hold their heads up high, imo, that they gave it their best against a side that is obviously more talented and made a game of it.
 
Regulus Tera said:
The only football game I've ever played is FIFA Road to World Cup 98.

I remember loving that game to death back in the day. Can't remember enough to know whether that's primarily nostalgia speaking, though.
 

Mastadon

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Lightning said:
If we hang onto Cesc for another year I don't see why we can't win it.

Man Utd are buying over-priced english players, Man City have money but no intelligence on how to spend it, Chelsea have yet to reveal their hand but with Fabregas I am sure we can match whatever they bring to the table and Liverpool are better under Dalglish but still have a ways to go before being a threat to Arsenal as they are another one in over paying for english players. 35million for Carroll? Fuck off...


Every player makes mistakes and Cesc was a true gentleman and owned up to his mistake. Not to mention that he was playing injured for our benefit because his mere presence lifts the players around him. Okay we didn't win that game but Arsenal and Cesc can hold their heads up high, imo, that they gave it their best against a side that is obviously more talented and made a game of it.
:lol You're optimistic, I'll give you that.
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
Fair enough. Because when a player is not fit, he occasionally back heels the ball in his own box and fakes attempting to get it back. I have no idea how you two can defend this with a straight face. :p Not a single guy I know defended Gerrard's back pass to Drogba. :p
 

Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
You have to be pretty delusional to think arsenal has a shot at winning epl next season, I think even a top 4 finish is gonna be a struggle for them.
 

Salazar

Member
Error said:
You have to be pretty delusional to think arsenal has a shot at winning epl next season, I think even a top 4 finish is gonna be a struggle for them.

I agree, but I would still like Arsenal to finish above City and Liverpool.
 

Lightning

Banned
Error said:
You have to be pretty delusional to think arsenal has a shot at winning epl next season, I think even a top 4 finish is gonna be a struggle for them.
If Cesc departs I agree, if Cesc stays no just no but we we'll see soon enough as it's a pretty challenging start to the season and it will likely tell the story.

We have a great attacking squad, just lacks a bit in defense. Hopefully Wenger sorts that though...
 
Error said:
You have to be pretty delusional to think arsenal has a shot at winning epl next season, I think even a top 4 finish is gonna be a struggle for them.

Arsenal will make top 4, for sure. Even without Nasri and Fabregas. I really do rate Wilshere and Ramsey. And if Wenger does sign an Alvarez or Mata, there'll be some genuine fresh talent in that midfield. However, I don't see him sorting out that back five enough this summer to mount an appreciable title challenge--agreed on that front.

The hype surrounding Liverpool re-entering the top 4 is what I wouldn't be too trusting of. I think they'll finish fifth--ahead of Spurs, but behind City and Arsenal.
 

Mastadon

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Tim the Wiz said:
Arsenal will make top 4, for sure. Even without Nasri and Fabregas. I really do rate Wilshere and Ramsey. And if Wenger does sign an Alvarez or Mata, there'll be some genuine fresh talent in that midfield. However, I don't see him sorting out that back five enough this summer to mount an appreciable title challenge--agreed on that front.

The hype surrounding Liverpool re-entering the top 4 is what I wouldn't be too trusting of. I think they'll finish fifth--ahead of Spurs, but behind City and Arsenal.
It's impossible to say until the window closes. If Nasri and Cesc both go, that's a massive amount of your attacking threat and creativity gone. Replacement signings could potentially take time to fit in, and that's only if Wenger is willing to spend over the odds for Mata etc.

I'm by no means saying that Liverpool will get 4th, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as you are making it.
 
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