Wouldn't it be nice to beat City for the first time in...
Was is that FA Cup tie where Welbeck scored and Paul Scholes came out of retirement?
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Football 2014/15 |OT14| The one where Europa&Champions League are sensationally back
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Wouldn't it be nice to beat City for the first time in...
Was is that FA Cup tie where Welbeck scored and Paul Scholes came out of retirement?
Vivalaraza
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You know if you think about it the Champions League actually lasts 2 seasons.
Van Persie free kick. Thank you Samir.
I forgot that Van Persie used to be good.
Shanks D Zoro
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done
It was also the game you lost Pogba, forever.
jts
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Do you guys wish for Gaal to stay next season? I mean, on a theoretical level, ignoring club/EPL culture and all that and just looking for a more long term solution for the club.
And I mean, what's the point of having a soulless manager who can put up a soulless team if he can't deliver in spades. He's half decent for sure, and for the club's finances/mindshare he better qualify to UCL, but for next season United should definitely roll the dice again in hopes to get someone better, someone younger, someone less greasy, someone happier, someone who can bench RvP.
And I mean, what's the point of having a soulless manager who can put up a soulless team if he can't deliver in spades. He's half decent for sure, and for the club's finances/mindshare he better qualify to UCL, but for next season United should definitely roll the dice again in hopes to get someone better, someone younger, someone less greasy, someone happier, someone who can bench RvP.
Vivalaraza
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We looked shit last night.
cartoon_soldier
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I am most worried about Liverpool away, though if they are still in EL that will help.
Shockingly bad, I really hope Wenger see's this, lets you lot have the ball and hit on the counter (he should do). We dont need to control the game because unless things change, Man U seem very predictable.
Vivalaraza
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He should keep his job regardless.
He isn't incompetent, like Moyes was. It would be crazy to sack another manager this season unless there is a complete meltdown and loss of control over the next couple of months.
Oh, no doubt, but not as bad as usual. it actually felt like all 10 outfield players were bad minus Young, as opposed to 8 bad players with 2 completely missing (RVP/Falcao).
LabouredSubterfuge
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I continually get the impression that this season LvG is getting by through whatever pragmatic means possible.
I know that we've spent a lot but really what we've bought represents very expensive gaffer tape because at the moment the whole squad just doesn't have a good mesh of complimentary abilities.
The main thing we lack is pace going forward, more than anything. Yes we need a great CM to build up play in the middle but that'll fix nothing if we still have incredibly slow attackers, regardless of how seemingly smart their movement is.
I know that we've spent a lot but really what we've bought represents very expensive gaffer tape because at the moment the whole squad just doesn't have a good mesh of complimentary abilities.
The main thing we lack is pace going forward, more than anything. Yes we need a great CM to build up play in the middle but that'll fix nothing if we still have incredibly slow attackers, regardless of how seemingly smart their movement is.
He'd be worse than Moyes anyway
Look, as ridiculous as it sounds with the players in our squad, this season is about getting back in the Champions League, by hook or by crook. If we win the FA Cup as well I'll be fucking delighted, but we have to take a leaf out of Wenger's book and go for the top four trophy this year.
You can look at our squad list and say we should be doing much better, but that's based on names as much as anything else. Yes, RVP and Falcao should be doing better, but it's pretty clear they're in decline.
The crime isn't that these players aren't playing well, the crime is that we've spent a lot of money and are still stuck with these players.
There's no more than four or five players that regularly start for us that I want to see in the team next season, and that makes it all the more confusing that we're actually doing well in terms of results.
Before the start of the season, if you had offered me third place and a FA Cup quarter final in February, I would have been well fucking up for it. We aren't playing well and long term that has to be sorted. But while we're getting results it seems a little silly to say LVG should be out.
You can look at our squad list and say we should be doing much better, but that's based on names as much as anything else. Yes, RVP and Falcao should be doing better, but it's pretty clear they're in decline.
The crime isn't that these players aren't playing well, the crime is that we've spent a lot of money and are still stuck with these players.
There's no more than four or five players that regularly start for us that I want to see in the team next season, and that makes it all the more confusing that we're actually doing well in terms of results.
Before the start of the season, if you had offered me third place and a FA Cup quarter final in February, I would have been well fucking up for it. We aren't playing well and long term that has to be sorted. But while we're getting results it seems a little silly to say LVG should be out.
Vivalaraza
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That's all true but the standard of play should be better. Whether we spent a penny in the summer or not - this kind of football is not acceptable.
Loosely related - last night was the first time all of our summer signings started.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you. If we finish seventh again from our current position he has to be held accountable, but I don't see that happening. I still have a lot of confidence in him that he'll get it right eventually given a full pre-season, more time to bring in his own players instead of Woodward's choices, and a cull of those who aren't good enough.
Also agree. He obviously bums 4-3-3 but there's no pace in the side apart from Di Maria and the full backs.
Next year, given a few transfers, it could work. Someone like (a fit) Strootman alongside ADM and someone else (preferably Andrew xoxo), with Adnan, Rooney, Depay up top... It's far better balanced and far more threatening than we're getting now.
Freewheelin'
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Yeah I like him, but he's very limited in the way we play. Would rather we go for someone younger and more able to contribute. Griezmann would have been fantastic ;_;
jts
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I understand that primary objective, which is definitely vital.
But he's not United material in the long run imo. That's a bit more where I'm trying to get at. I don't like to see United settling for "good enough" and slowly fall into Arsenal's territory in people's minds.
I care.
Give Boas a chance. He's wonderful with a good budget. And beautiful to boot. That is United.
That stat is mad.
Yeah, I do agree with you again. It does have to be better. It is a little galling to see Liverpool playing well and responding to Rodgers' tactics, but the squad is largely built up of players who fit that philosophy.
Ours isn't. Not that I have unlimited, deep abiding faith in LVG's style and how he wants us to play, but it's a fool's errand when you're asking the likes of Valencia, Jones and Evans to commit to a possession based, build out from the back approach. Part of this is his fault for picking them - as well as persisting with three hundred attacking players on the pitch at one time, leaving the team criminally lopsided - , but he's come to the club with a month to settle in, get used to surroundings and start imprinting his ways on a side. A side that features said brainless players.
I'm sure we all very much doubt a few of our transfers were his idea, and were more borne out of necessity than anything else. Whatever happens this season, I think we'll be much better next season. It feels like a long way away, but as long as we get the results I'm not unduly fussed how we're getting them this season. Fuck, it'd be even funnier to achieve everything playing such shit football.
Vivalaraza
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Didn't expect us to play so many long balls when Gaal was announced as manager
They're called long passes.
not sure I can even point the finger at your players anymore
Genghis Gaal is not getting the best outta them, he's forcing his system on them regardless
Your XI looks like an illogical mix of players mushed together into something thick, soft and pulpy
THAT is United
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is LVGymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal once noble wreck, boundless and bare, the lone and level sands stretch far away..
Edit: oh nvm i see we're in agreement here
Most of them are long incomplete passes. I blame Giggs
Tell you what, students in Galway know how to celebrate today. Queueing since 9am for a pub to open to pay tribute to Jim McGuinness and Daniel O'Donnell.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Fucking Dave Benson Phillips is outside again causing a mild public affray.
Will I ever be free?
Will I ever be free?
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jts
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You need someone to come in and do a second act of Jobs like cleanse and ask where the fuck is the sex.
United was always about sex.
There's no more sex.
Fellaini is not sex.
Boas is sex.
You need to desire Boas so bad that he will have the power to say to the Glazers no u fucks I will not play fucking safe top 4 football. I will play sex, for this is United.
Sex.
United was always about sex.
There's no more sex.
Fellaini is not sex.
Boas is sex.
You need to desire Boas so bad that he will have the power to say to the Glazers no u fucks I will not play fucking safe top 4 football. I will play sex, for this is United.
Sex.
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I can't wait for Verratti to school Chelsea.
Fabregas who?
Fabregas who?
It's something 'quirky' students in Galway have devised as an excuse to get pure 'rote at 11am.
I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid
To let them show
Your true colors
True colors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HabgnMmA6Rk
Its quite obvious the bad start to the league, the injuries and results like the one at MK Dons and Leicester had a psychological effect not just on the team but on Gaal as well. As a result we have become risk averse and cautious to the point of being meek.
There will be another clear out in the summer, and re-enforcements will come no doubt, however my concern regardless of who we get is the cohesion which has been sorely lacking, every game looks like its the first time the team is playing together.
With a full summer to look back with the coaching staff, I think they sort it out and be better prepared, I just wish we would stop getting out pants pulled down in the transfer market. We need to start going to Chelsea's transfer seminars or something, Its embarrassing.
There will be another clear out in the summer, and re-enforcements will come no doubt, however my concern regardless of who we get is the cohesion which has been sorely lacking, every game looks like its the first time the team is playing together.
With a full summer to look back with the coaching staff, I think they sort it out and be better prepared, I just wish we would stop getting out pants pulled down in the transfer market. We need to start going to Chelsea's transfer seminars or something, Its embarrassing.
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lol
i might try and do three of the four at the same time. Might even be able to push to 4 with the controller
OriginalThinking
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I am Scottish. Don't believe the lies, you'd have had your midlife Crisis at 15, not 25. That said, I've made it to 35 so I should be dead by now. My arteries are literally deep fried at this point.
I'd rather die than give up deep fried pizza, so I guess this works for me.
OriginalThinking
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I like Parma. That said, it's mostly based on 20 year old memories of Football Italia on channel 4 with James Richardson.
EDIT: Didn't Parma once have Faustino Asprilla and Gianfranco Zola in their team at one point? Those were the days.
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