Not making Champions League, losing Vidic on a free and Rooney acting up for a transfer all summer might make that much more difficult.
He should be given to the end of 2015 imo.
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He should be given to the end of 2015 imo.
The_Hitcher89
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Moyes should be given a contract for life
Pretty much. I was astounded when people were sucking Spurs' arsehole the other day saying how brilliant they were. Fuck that, we were just fucking shite. Same today and it was the same against Everton. Teams can rock up here, hold on under some moderate pressure and just kill us with a couple of simple balls through the middle.
I take it to mean that you need an attacking player to be creative. The French guy was right - you're relying completely on Januzaj to create. He's a kid. A good kid but he shouldn't bare the brunt of the entire attack.
cartoon_soldier
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Basically this.
United have Evra, Rio, Vidic, Giggs etc all coming to the end who will need replacing and Moyes will then have his own team to judge. Not fair judging him managing Fergie's team when a large chunk of the players needed replacing.
A transition season. Have patience United.
Three is not long enough. He needs to serve out his six years to really bring the best out of united. He's also very lucky to be at a club that has owners and fans with the class to give him all the time he needs to achieve his vision.
Vivalaraza
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Well it will make it harder - but that's just the hand he's been dealt with.
No point making excuses about it.
They're the players that have formed the spine of one of most successful sides ever. Possibly the most successful side in our history. It's gonna take more than one transitional season before we get anywhere near back to our best.
mattacular
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Yeah it's in the bin next to the tear soaked tissues Mou used when he was passed up for the United job.
FootballFan
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Marc
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Hahaha, oh man, this season has been the gift that keeps on giving. Especially for a Londoner surrounded by cockney Man U fans.
Moyes looks like the nice lad they hired in the office post room, who is a bit retarded, but everyone gives him extra special attention and praise. One day they decide to let the employee's vote for the new CEO, some vote for him trying to make him a 'winner' as he was in their eyes. The rest are guilt tripped into it. Somehow he actually wins and now everyone is stuck with him as he turns the office into a pirate boat. No one has the heart to tell him to fuck off.
Moyes looks like the nice lad they hired in the office post room, who is a bit retarded, but everyone gives him extra special attention and praise. One day they decide to let the employee's vote for the new CEO, some vote for him trying to make him a 'winner' as he was in their eyes. The rest are guilt tripped into it. Somehow he actually wins and now everyone is stuck with him as he turns the office into a pirate boat. No one has the heart to tell him to fuck off.
I still believe Moyes can do it but he seriously needs to break out of the Fergie mold. It barely worked for Fergie in these past few seasons and its obviously not working out for Moyes at all. However, blame should also be put on some players because its astonishing how many undeserved people get to put on a United jersey
Lol. Don't get cocky.
The season you won it was very close and the next season you were 11 adrift.
I'm not really buying the give him 3 years crowd, why? If he can't get this team playing to an at least acceptable level then why would you trust him to build his own side and spend presumably millions doing it?
At the very least he should be maintaining decent results and playing solid football, he simply hasn't done that yet and how long is it acceptable? Very few bright points in his tenure so far, if we are being kind its basically playing Januzaj, Welbeck improving and progressing from a pretty weak CL group.
As easy as it is to say give him 3 years, say we do that and we drop further before you know it, it can take donkeys years to claw back to where you started, just ask Liverpool fans.
At the very least he should be maintaining decent results and playing solid football, he simply hasn't done that yet and how long is it acceptable? Very few bright points in his tenure so far, if we are being kind its basically playing Januzaj, Welbeck improving and progressing from a pretty weak CL group.
As easy as it is to say give him 3 years, say we do that and we drop further before you know it, it can take donkeys years to claw back to where you started, just ask Liverpool fans.
GHG
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They have Kagawa as we'll and are really underutilising him.
Rooney can also be a fantastic number 10. If he doesn't want to play that role for the team because his ego is too big then he should go or rot on the bench. But Moyes wouldn't have the balls to stamp his authority like that.
This would cause most teams trouble:
---------------------RVP/Hernandez-----------------------
Kagawa ------------Rooney--------------------Januzaj
---------------Fellaini--------Carrick-----------------------
And use the fullbacks for width.
It'd also likely be more compact and prevent other teams from having so much freedom in midfield.
I know I'm only joking. We could have an away form meltdown any moment.
what?
Looks like City is in control through. Going full steam ahead.
The wins over Arsenal and Liverpool help.
Shanks D Zoro
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It should be a requirement that he has ro give them all haircuts aftee the game, that would keep them in line.
Argh, looks like my dream three of El Shaz, Rossi and Totti will never happen
Edit: just woke up for the big game and now see the United scorline.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
Frank the Great
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Milan should sign Kagawa if United doesn't want to use him properly. Seedorf* can play him with Honda, Kaka, and Balo for maximum swagger.
*I think I'm going to pretend Allegri doesn't exist for the remainder of this season, because fuck Allegri. I'm also going to pretend we have transfer funds and that any good player would want to sign for us, in case you haven't noticed.
*I think I'm going to pretend Allegri doesn't exist for the remainder of this season, because fuck Allegri. I'm also going to pretend we have transfer funds and that any good player would want to sign for us, in case you haven't noticed.
FootballFan
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That was a scrubs reference wasn't it?
Yup. Took us one year out of the CL and a few bad transfer moves to take us from 2nd to a relegation scrap. Things can change very quickly in football.
I also think it's quite obvious since Martinez took over that it was not Everton holding Moyes back, but the other way round.
No debating around it all.
Fabio let himself down.
Let Shinji team up with his bro. Sign Nagatomo as well.
United need to make a major signing in the summer as well, a top class high profile player. It will be proof they can still attract the best players.
Shanks D Zoro
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Ljajic over Florenzi and Destro???
Moyes should never have been given the job in the first place. Sacking him now wouldn't be a bad thing if you are after short term success.
Fellani for 30 million tells you everything you need to know about his thinking. He not ready for the big chair.
Now if the UTD are willing to 'train' their next manager. They should stick with him and back him all the way.
Moyes can get it right but it will take a bit if time.
Say what you want about the man... but Mourhino would have picked up the pieces and made a better go of it.
Fellani for 30 million tells you everything you need to know about his thinking. He not ready for the big chair.
Now if the UTD are willing to 'train' their next manager. They should stick with him and back him all the way.
Moyes can get it right but it will take a bit if time.
Say what you want about the man... but Mourhino would have picked up the pieces and made a better go of it.
What is it with young defenders doing this.
Boyata has seen two reds that I remember now.
Arsenal in the first few minutes - we lost 3-0 at home.
Yesterday.
Wilbury is probably dying to make a list, but since he's banned I'll do it for him.
Players who need to go/will be let go in tue summer:
Young
Evra
Rio
Anderson
Buttner
Fabio
Valencia
Giggs
Vidic is in the last 6 months of his contract and hasn't been playing well, but I'd be tempted to give him one more year as he still has a big influence on the pitch. Rooney will probs leave in Summer too.
This is some rebuilding job Moyes has on his hands.
Players who need to go/will be let go in tue summer:
Young
Evra
Rio
Anderson
Buttner
Fabio
Valencia
Giggs
Vidic is in the last 6 months of his contract and hasn't been playing well, but I'd be tempted to give him one more year as he still has a big influence on the pitch. Rooney will probs leave in Summer too.
This is some rebuilding job Moyes has on his hands.
you mean Nihonjin
pulga
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Inexperience, rash. Although Fabio has played in a UCL final. He knows better.
He'll probably leave in the summer. The list I compiled was of the players United would want to leave as they don't do enough enough and/or are too old.
Won't shed any tears when the prick leaves.
Vivalaraza
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Well you either decide if you back the manager or not.
If you're not willing to give him some time - get rid now, what's the point in continuing?
Depends where you draw the line. Considering the summer, state of the squad and other factors, I think it would be harsh to sack him before he even gets a go at building his team - so that's why I'd give him at least this coming summer to make some moves.
You base your choices at times like these on the principles which underpin your club. There is no guarantee, everything is a risk.
So you can do what some clubs do which is make quick fire decisions or you invest in something and see where it gets you.
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