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football thread 13/14 |ot12| last roll of the dive
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pulga
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how are you right
I think Boyata has no future at City.
We have Reece Wabara who we should give a crack at RB. He's injured atm but I think he should get his chance.
I think in summer we will sell Kolarov and see Rekik come into the squad.
Vivalaraza
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Young player aren't getting a shot at City.
There's more chance of Moyes winning something sometime soon.
Heard about it live on the radio. Goddamn.
No.
We're dead.
You can only back someone so far though, if they don't perform then it leaves you very little choice. I don't think the squad is great, it has a lot of deadwood and rough edges however it is more than capable of a Top 4 finish but its not even the results that worry me, its the way in which they are playing, no fight, no creativity, leaking goals and heads are down.
I understand the principles of the club, I'm proud of them but there is nothing noble about sinking on the Titanic when you had a life raft nearby. Football is a money driven game now and when you are crippled with debt then you are taking a massive gamble by doing nothing to change it. If Moyes is United's man then they need to back him, immediately or be prepared for the fallout, at the end of todays game I think we just got the beginnings of the crowd turning on him.
That's what I don't understand.
We've got Zabaleta and Richards as first choice RB. Richards is perma-injured. We can't have Zabaleta playing all the games.
Boyata has had his chance now.
Give someone else a go.
ENGINEER PLS.
There's a lack of balance with the age profile of the squad. Lots of players in their 30's and lots in their teens and early 20's. Not enough players in their mid 20's who could take up leadership roles when the old guard leaves. And those in their mid 20's eg Ando and Clev, aren't good enough anyway.
Vivalaraza
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I agree.
Which is why they need to back him here and now - bring someone in who can help the team and build towards the summer.
Pogba happened.
I hope Utd stick with Moyes even if they don't finish in the top 4. This form isn't evidence of him being a bad manager but instead how difficult a managerial transition is at the top. The turn around of managers at Chelsea/City has fooled fans into thinking the top clubs can chop and change but still expect to stay in the top 4 however it's quite different if there isn't a £100m injection available to cover up that transition.
As dominant as the traditional top 4 seem Arsenal/Utd's sustained success is still heavily dependent on their managers. Chelsea followed by City were the first clubs to introduce the idea of top 4 dominance throughout the reign of successive appointments
As dominant as the traditional top 4 seem Arsenal/Utd's sustained success is still heavily dependent on their managers. Chelsea followed by City were the first clubs to introduce the idea of top 4 dominance throughout the reign of successive appointments
Had to record the match this morning. Good grief the back line was terrible. Luiz with a stupid giveaway. He'd been in the lineup all the time if Mou could trust him not to do boneheaded stuff from time to time. Eto'o just makes me want to break something too. Gets in and doesn't even get a shot off smh. At least Torres manages to put the ball on target. Oscar and Willian look fantastic though. Overall, a mixed bag, and I'm happy we kept the clean sheet.
I wish I'd caught just the last 10 minutes of United just for the lols though. There was a time when I got nervous whenever we had to go to Old Trafford, but now I'm kind of upset Mou didn't come out of the shell and let us try to get all 3 points. If Swansea beat them again next week, I'll be in stiches.
I wish I'd caught just the last 10 minutes of United just for the lols though. There was a time when I got nervous whenever we had to go to Old Trafford, but now I'm kind of upset Mou didn't come out of the shell and let us try to get all 3 points. If Swansea beat them again next week, I'll be in stiches.
I also agree with Moyes when he says it's hard to get the players you really want in January. He's probably right to wait until Summer. But then again they may not come if we don't have a good season. So much pressure to buy in January and some fans may turn against him if he doesn't.
I don't envy the job he has ahead of him.
Yep, they need to swallow their pride and open their wallets for 2-3 players this window no matter the cost, they need to realise they should spend now to save later because no CL football will be a huge blow, huge.
And if they do that January to the summer becomes Moyes probation period, he needs to show signs of improvement basically everywhere or he will be replaced by someone who can do it.
That team would get destroyed. Who is doing the defensive work?
You really think the likes of Kagawa and Januzaj would track back to help their full backs out when they get exposed when they go forward? What has Kagawa even done to deserve any sort of starting position?
Fellaini isn't a centre midfielder or a defensive midfielder. He's an CAM as is Januzaj and Kagawa, you are playing these players out of position. Kagawa has been proven to be ineffective on the left as well. They have no decent fullbacks, Evra and Smalling are shite, Moyes doesn't seem to rate Rafael or Fabio (not surprising after today). Vidic has six months left on his contract and doesn't look like he is renewing. Rio is past it, that leaves Jones, Smalling and Evans as centre-backs. They need to heavily invest in their defence in the summer.
Moyes has a rebuilding job to do. Most of their main players within their squad are 28 or over.
Injured himself in the Supercup game and now Pogba is on fire. No need to drop him.
Nicktendo86
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The way Everton are playing this season is proof enough for me that Moyes is, at most, a mediocre mid table manager. You can see that in thee way he sets up his team, he doesn't know how to win. Thanks fergie, great leaving present for us.
The Rafael thing isnt true. He's first choice when he's fit. Just had two bad injuries this season.
Shanks D Zoro
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I just can't let that slide, he always helped us qualify nicely and had a great relationship with Vieri, Montella and Delvechio at times. He played at 4 senior level tournaments. 2000, he was arguably the best player at the tournament and in the world that year and without him
and Toldo
People say he never played as well for the national team as he did for Roma and that is true. He was a true number 10 back then
as opposed to Del Boy who has also been more of a SS
His national team duties will always look like this. 7 tournamanets, 3 winners medal and two runner-up medals. It is a shame he didn't show up more.
Vivalaraza
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Marchisio sucks.
No goals, no assists.
Thank God we didn't sign him and are gonna get Vidal instead.
No goals, no assists.
Thank God we didn't sign him and are gonna get Vidal instead.
Would be very premature to fire Moyes so soon, I think, or even at the end of the season. Crashing out of the FA cup is the best thing that could have happened for Moyes. Once he crashes out of Europe a swell, the league results will improve. It's simply inevitable. United still have a very good chance of finishing in the top 4.
Viva stop trolling me
I haven't eaten all day And Trez cried
And I was supposed to be in the stadium with my buddies but I ccouldn't make it
Mercy
I think this could be the best twitter account I've seen in a while.
https://twitter.com/mufc____fan/
Even doicare would blush at some of them tweets.
https://twitter.com/mufc____fan/
Even doicare would blush at some of them tweets.
Vivalaraza
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If there is any criticism of Moyes it's that he doesn't set his team out in any particular way.
This manifests itself in alot of other criticisms but this is at the core of it.
Moyes needs to establish what he wants and set his team out that way. As with alot of other things he's been very wooly about it, neither here nor there. That's when you will get conviction in your team, something for players and fans to buy in to - even if they don't necessarily agree with it entirely.
This manifests itself in alot of other criticisms but this is at the core of it.
Moyes needs to establish what he wants and set his team out that way. As with alot of other things he's been very wooly about it, neither here nor there. That's when you will get conviction in your team, something for players and fans to buy in to - even if they don't necessarily agree with it entirely.
Viva stop trolling me
He's not completely wrong though. Injury or not, he hasn't been shining for a while now.
Hasn't Farid expressed that Fellaini is capable as a DM?
Rather he play as one when he comes back.
Vivalaraza
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Too obvious that it's a troll account.
KidA Seven
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Spot on. I wanted top 4 no matter what. If Moyes can't get top 4 with this squad, then why persist with him? No top 4 means he can't squeeze the most out of its talent so even if he does buy some good players, will he be able to get the best out of them? I never expected him to be Fergie and I never expected him to win the league. My standards were already lowered and I was happy if he would get top 4 for a couple of years and win the league somewhere down the line.
Hell, I would be fine if we didn't get top 4 this season as long as the play improved. The play is dog shit though.
I was tweeting about it the other day
Defensively speaking, he's still up there despite playing less than Pogba and Vidal.
I lost count of how many times he was used out of position too. Didn't he play in Pirlo's position? And on the wings against Madrid?
Conte pls
Shanks D Zoro
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marchisio would have instantly been the best player in the League.
All true. He's still very useful to the team, but poses little danger going forward. I'm sure it's just a phase, but he needs to play better.
JUVEEEEEEEEEEEEE LET'S DO THISSSSSSSSSSSSS
See you guys at half time.
Vivalaraza
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Cool fountain.
pulga
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Cool fountain.
my favorite thing here <3
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