You missed the worst penalty shoot-out of the year. Mata to a sub-Sunderland club is almost sure.
FFP is a joke, it's so easy to bypass. If Zenit can do it, then so can Chelsea.FFP.
Kagawa had no experience playing in the PL though. Doesn't mean Mata will be a success, mind, but I guess it's better than relying on Young, Nani or Valencia to conjure something up.
Ashely Young: 1 goal, 2 assists, 484 minutes played.
Juan Mata: 0 goals, 2 assists, 826 minutes played.
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Barkley as a Mata replacement is a bit of a downgrade. He has great potential, but is still a long way off reaching the level of excellence Mata displayed. Don't see where he'd fit either. Not going to displace Oscar or Hazard anytime soon and would be a waste out wide. Maybe Chelsea want to play him deeper, but that would blunt some of his beat abilities.
It's not a like for like replacement, but he'd be brought in to fill Mata's space so I think the comparisons are inevitable. Maybe he can play deeper, but right now he looks set as an attacking midfielder.Don't think it is a like for like replacement. Could see him playing in a deeper role alongside a real DM. Still can get forward from that position.
Ashely Young: 1 goal, 2 assists, 484 minutes played.
Juan Mata: 0 goals, 2 assists, 826 minutes played.
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WTF i was thinking why are all of UnitedGAF chatting like Mata was on his way and then checked the beeb.
What are Chelsea playing at???
Way to go and inject some life into United. I can't wait for United to come back and overtake that joke of a club.
Won't happen this season. Still too many deficiencies in the squad for us to be a major power again. The front three will win games against lesser teams, but midfield and defence is still too weak to face the better sides.Though I do hope that this signing galvanises the team like RVP's last season.WTF i was thinking why are all of UnitedGAF chatting like Mata was on his way and then checked the beeb.
What are Chelsea playing at???
Way to go and inject some life into United. I can't wait for United to come back and overtake that joke of a club.
WTF i was thinking why are all of UnitedGAF chatting like Mata was on his way and then checked the beeb.
What are Chelsea playing at???
Way to go and inject some life into United. I can't wait for United to come back and overtake that joke of a club.
Mata, on the right, hugging the touch line and then subbed after an hour for Antonio Valencia.
It's Ashley Young, man. Come on!
I know who I'd rather have.
They are thinking that United still have Arsenal and Man City to play. A quality player would help United there. Arsenal and Man City losing points helps Chelsea.
Don't think it is a like for like replacement. Could see him playing in a deeper role alongside a real DM. Still can get forward from that position.
Giovinco?
Maybe You just doesn't think Mata is a fit for his Chelsea team? Selling him for a very decent price will then give him the funds to sign the world class striker he's been wanting for months.
And then they are going to steal Salah from Liverpool's nose. Double blow from Chelsea to Liverpool.People keep mentioning that, but that is bad logic on Chelsea's part. They are not just strengthening United for this season, but for the next few seasons. Unites will end up top four again and challenging for the title next season. Chelsea better watch their back the rest of the season.
And then they are going to steal Salah from Liverpool's nose. Double blow from Chelsea to Liverpool.
edit: In regards to the WC, I think Mata is on the plane and that he'll make a couple of cameo appearances regardless of his form. Del Bosque picks his team on name.
Selling Mata to this United is a very Mourinho-esque move. A manager notorious for only thinking as far ahead as May.
That's the thing I can't get my head around. Mata is class through and through. Seems stupid that they'd sell him to us. Only thing I can guess is that Mou doesn't see us as a threat this season and Mata just isn't in his plans. No point keeping an unhappy player.But, unless he's looking to reinvest in the next ten days, why not wait until the Summer and look for offers abroad?
Even if they're for a little less... it's Chelsea.
edit: In regards to the WC, I think Mata is on the plane and that he'll make a couple of cameo appearances regardless of his form. Del Bosque picks his team on name.
I honestly think Mourinho just thinks nothing of Moyes and therefore United will not be able to surpass Chelsea regardless while Moyes is manager.That's the thing I can't get my head around. Mata is class through and through. Seems stupid that they'd sell him to us. Only thing I can guess is that Mou doesn't see us as a threat this season and Mata just isn't in his plans. No point keeping an unhappy player.
I honestly think Mourinho just thinks nothing of Moyes and therefore United will not be able to surpass Chelsea regardless while Moyes is manager.
Either that or Mourinho's convinced that if he can't get Mata playing well then Moyes never will and they've got £37 million for a player who will be nothing more than mediocre for the next 5 years...
Mou does have a slight ego after all.
If Moyes continues to struggle then he'll get the sack. A 6 year contract won't save him if we continuously miss out on CL football. New manger comes in and who's to say he won't get Mata into great form.I honestly think Mourinho just thinks nothing of Moyes and therefore United will not be able to surpass Chelsea regardless while Moyes is manager.
If this isn't a saga and Chelsea don't make a major signing this window I'll be disappointed.
Matic doesn't count as a major signing?
What does this even mean?Chelsea fan logic.
If Moyes continues to struggle then he'll get the sack. A 6 year contract won't save him if we continuously miss out on CL football. New manger comes in and who's to say he won't get Mata into great form.
I hope Moyes succeeds at United, but it's foolish to suggest we'll stick by him for 6 seasons if he fails to achieve results.
I'm not meaning that but Moyes will get 2 seasons. Who knows how long Mou will be at Chelsea but I'm sure he feels confident in domination over Moyes during his time there.If Moyes continues to struggle then he'll get the sack. A 6 year contract won't save him if we continuously miss out on CL football. New manger comes in and who's to say he won't get Mata into great form.
I hope Moyes succeeds at United, but it's foolish to suggest we'll stick by him for 6 seasons if he fails to achieve results.
Matic doesn't count as a major signing?
Chelsea fan logic.
What does this even mean?
I mean off the back of Mata. Selling De Bruyne and Mata means that club is a few injuries away from a crisis of sorts. Why strengthen a rival if it could possibly put you in an embarrassing situation?
they aren't.![]()
I thought it was a major signing. *shrugs*That spending 24 million on a player isn't a major signing.
I've no doubt he'd feel confident of finishing higher than Moyes. United need a rebuild and that'll take a few years. And then there's the fact that he's just a better manager.I'm not meaning that but Moyes will get 2 seasons. Who knows how long Mou will be at Chelsea but I'm sure he feels confident in domination over Moyes during his time there.
I mean off the back of Mata. Selling De Bruyne and Mata means that club is a few injuries away from a crisis of sorts. Why strengthen a rival if it could possibly put you in an embarrassing situation?
I'm hoping they have a big signing in the works, if they don't it would just be a disappointment imo.
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I don't even...
I mean off the back of Mata. Selling De Bruyne and Mata means that club is a few injuries away from a crisis of sorts. Why strengthen a rival if it could possibly put you in an embarrassing situation?
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People keep mentioning that, but that is bad logic on Chelsea's part. They are not just strengthening United for this season, but for the next few seasons. Unites will end up top four again and challenging for the title next season. Chelsea better watch their back the rest of the season.
Does he fit in with what I would call the typical philosophy of Manchester United? I would say no,'
'Positives of signing a player like him are obvious-lift everyone (spark) creativity, knows PL, 4th place chances go up - fantastic player.'
'The first question, I think, is where are you going to play? Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie are up top if they are fit so where are you going to play him? Are you going to play him off the left or off the right?
'Maybe they have to change the philosophy and maybe that's what David Moyes is thinking. Maybe he wants to play narrow wide players and maybe a three in midfield.
'They would have to change to accommodate Juan Mata in the way they normally play. They normally play with wide players.
'He's obviously a fantastic football player, there's no doubt about that, but one thing it does do, I suppose, is that David Moyes, Manchester United and Ed Woodward need to sign a big player.
'They need to make a noise and if they get him in it will attract potentially other players - and they need three or four players.
'What it could be is the start of something to lead to other things, but typically I wouldn't say he fits.'