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ok... We all know you support Chelsea.
You're right. That needs updating. I'll alert Lambda.
FlutterPuffs
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I won't be surprised if he's gone by the end of the transfer window. He fits more in Dortmund, so I hope he goes there.
Willian has been outperforming Mata this season given similar amounts of playing time. And yes, our problems in the centre of midfield are well documented, we did just buy Matic to hopefully resolve that.
Maybe it is due to other factors but the team, even without Mata, is better that it has been for more than 3 years, which admittedly isn't saying much.
And this move is as much down to Mata himself as it is down to Mourinho. Mata has been given chances, he has invariably been chosen to start the next game whenever he put in a good performance and has for the most part failed to deliver, this season. Rather than buckle down and try and regain his place, he has chosen to leave.
what happened to your lee min jung avatar? lol
Aye.
Don't quite understand the "Adnan is a 10 - we're holding him back by playing him wide" stuff. Does he seem like his scope is limited by not being central ? Not to me.
I bet Baines isn't that far off from MataAye.
Don't quite understand the "Adnan is a 10 - we're holding him back by playing him wide" stuff. Does he seem like his scope is limited by not being central ? Not to me.
Definitely more than 60.
we'll settle for 100.
You can thank Madrid and Levy for that.
Sviatoslav
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40 million would get you a loan with an option to co-own.
Aye.
Don't quite understand the "Adnan is a 10 - we're holding him back by playing him wide" stuff. Does he seem like his scope is limited by not being central ? Not to me.
He isn't a no 10, not from what I've seen. He's more effective on the wing.
Come on guys, you seriously think Dortmund are going to give you their best players if you throw a ragged corpse of a former Japanese superstar on their porch?
"Use Shinji as swap bait for Gundogan"
As if every club and player in Europe is waiting on your beckon call to please you and just can't wait to get fucked by you. Shinji's stock is as low as it gets. His value is well under 10m at this point and he'll have big club wages to dissuade buyers as well.
Dortmund were in the CL final last year. They don't want players who can't even get a game at a 7th place PL team.
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I genuinely don't rate Pogba that highly. I think his value as an asset to Juve is much higher than his value as a footballer, if that makes sense.
"Use Shinji as swap bait for Gundogan"
As if every club and player in Europe is waiting on your beckon call to please you and just can't wait to get fucked by you. Shinji's stock is as low as it gets. His value is well under 10m at this point and he'll have big club wages to dissuade buyers as well.
Dortmund were in the CL final last year. They don't want players who can't even get a game at a 7th place PL team.
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I genuinely don't rate Pogba that highly. I think his value as an asset to Juve is much higher than his value as a footballer, if that makes sense.
Sviatoslav
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And yet they wanted Ji Dong-Won, lol
Well Sunderland are a stronger team than Utd after all...
No.
But hey. Goobers said we had no chance at Mata. MOYES CAN'T SIGN GOOD PLAYERS. LEON OSMAN COME ON DOWN.
Sviatoslav
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The implication that Leon Osman is not a good player will not be tolerated. He's a legend.
I credit Martinez with taking him up those last few levels.
GHG
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Sviatoslav
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And yet he caught Hodgson's discerning eye before Martinez came along.
Maybe Mourinho just doesn't rate Mata that highly? It could be that Mata is benched because of that more than tactics; wouldn't be the first time that a manager doesn't rate a certain player for some reason.
So he might think that Mata is not such a huge gain for United and therefore can be sold.
So he might think that Mata is not such a huge gain for United and therefore can be sold.
We know that Mou does not guarantee anybody getting in the starting lineup and requires tracking back to defend, both of which are part of the problem here.
Spent $40 on that Time Flies... 1994-2009 Limited Edition collection when it came out and never touched it (can count the number of DVDs/BRDs I've actually watched again after buying in the past decade or so on one hand). If I had known Noel did an audio commentary for every video I'd have actually at least thrown the DVD in! This is golden.
http://www.avclub.com/article/listen-to-noel-gallagher-rip-apart-oasis-videos-107174
http://www.avclub.com/article/listen-to-noel-gallagher-rip-apart-oasis-videos-107174
lol
Chelsea can and will spend their way out of any disadvantage they incur - and Mou's fanclub will chalk it up as personal genius rather than supreme expenditure - but Mata is class.
KidA Seven
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Shinji is still a quality player. The reasons he's shitting the bed with United is because United as a team have shit movement, and have a strategy to get it to the winger at every opportunity. He's not a guy that will create something out of nothing through a dribble, or some through ball, or create an opening for himself to shoot.
He likes to play 1-2s around the box which gets the defense to open up and then that allows him to pick a pass out, or give himself an opening to shoot.
Right now you can see him get the ball and then wait a couple of seconds to see what his options are. When he sees no players moving he will just give it back to the midfield.
United's best football played this season has involved him heavily. He will never fit United if Moyes doesn't get the team to play through the middle and to constantly move. If United don't change, he should be sold because he'll never make a positive impact.
I always felt his best position was on the right wing. That's temporary though. I think his best position will eventually be behind the striker when he's more experienced and stronger. That's his favorite position and he has all the qualities to be one.
He likes to play 1-2s around the box which gets the defense to open up and then that allows him to pick a pass out, or give himself an opening to shoot.
Right now you can see him get the ball and then wait a couple of seconds to see what his options are. When he sees no players moving he will just give it back to the midfield.
United's best football played this season has involved him heavily. He will never fit United if Moyes doesn't get the team to play through the middle and to constantly move. If United don't change, he should be sold because he'll never make a positive impact.
I always felt his best position was on the right wing. That's temporary though. I think his best position will eventually be behind the striker when he's more experienced and stronger. That's his favorite position and he has all the qualities to be one.
United were always going to become stronger dude. They were always going to buy quality players, them getting Mata doesn't affect us anymore than it does the rest of the top teams.
Mata, Fabregas, Gundogan etc. they were trying for all these top players, some are going to stick. I would rather they get Mata than Fabregas.
Chance-creation is a big deal, but it's just the fact that he is a technical beast. We talk a lot about needing physical dominance and punishingly ceaseless hassling and running in the middle—and we do need that—but general intelligence and deftness on the ball needs to go up just as much.
Also just happy because he's a good bloke. I'm fine with us signing a straight-going-to-hell hate-magnet motherfucker for CM.
Like Viva said, too, man knows how to dress.
lol nice troll. Once that transfer goes through there goes your CL chances.
FlutterPuffs
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Who's a better buy btw, Mata or Ozil?
I would like nothing better than to see United try that.
More business to come. Wooders is up and running.
I can't help but to think back to that Southampton's game now when Mata came off not long after halftime. He halfheartedly shook Oscar's hand as he made his way to the bench where he then lashed out at the idea of being replaced after just 52 minutes. He was visibly upset and I was upset for him too, as I thought he did well enough and looked up for it having started the previous 5 games in a row.
However, no more than 7 minutes after being replaced we were celebrating a goal. Ten minutes after that a second. Ten minutes after it's number 3. So I don't know, perhaps this is the best thing for all involved. Juan get's a fresh start to try and turn things around for United and we get a huge amount of cash to splash on someone that will absolutely be a handpicked Mou player.
However, no more than 7 minutes after being replaced we were celebrating a goal. Ten minutes after that a second. Ten minutes after it's number 3. So I don't know, perhaps this is the best thing for all involved. Juan get's a fresh start to try and turn things around for United and we get a huge amount of cash to splash on someone that will absolutely be a handpicked Mou player.
On Paper thats not a top 4 side. It can be a title winning one. It all comes down to the manager now. If Moyes continues to play Valencia and sticks to whipping in a cross after cross the signing of Mata will mean shit. Like others have said we need to increase the movement around the penalty box and play through the middle more. Shinji and Mata playing 1-2s through the middle can be nightmare for defenders. Dont think that will happen though.
I think Shinji will definitely be sold now. With Adnan and now Mata he will get even less play time.
That game was good fortune more than anything though. The first goal was pretty lucky after that Southampton went to sleep. That first goal is always the hardest to get.
Shhhh.... dont jinx it!!!
Miles from Bayern, Gazidis. Fuckwit. 2015 you said, right? Yeah sure...
Net income for the European clubs over the last fiscal year ( / m). Liverpool, not surprisingly, dropped out of top 10.
West Ham though.
KidA Seven
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Because you are then not getting the best out of him. He's an attacker and should be used in an attacking position.
Shanks D Zoro
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Net income for the European clubs over the last fiscal year ( / m). Liverpool, not surprisingly, dropped out of top 10.
West Ham though.
PSG how??? They recently playes a friendly in Doha against RM. I am guessing Qatar pay them 100 million a friendly or something.
UEFA are a joke with FFP
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