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Football Thread 13/14 |OT13| Top 15 finish for AC Milan: Sogno Possibile
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Would it be wise to spend tonnes on ANOTHER player who is cup tied for UCL?
His attitude didn't warrant that first massive contract, but he got it anyways. Hell, he got it because of that attitude, rather than in spite of it.
KidA Seven
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That's Adnan's shirt. Januzaj has a 100% cup final win rate in that shirt. He won against City's Elite Development Squad.
Vivalaraza
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oh my god the cunt is going to be made club captain this is disgusting
Cleff, come on. You already know the answer to this one.
What other options do you guys have though?
You can't sell him. RVP is to unreliable and there aren't enough world class strikers available.
I sympathize with Man U fans because I get why they are tired of him and want him gone.
Mata no.10, Rooney CM.
The Atticus
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Baconsaurus Rex
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haha
Vivalaraza
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You guys are going on like he's amongst the few best players in the world.
He can be replaced.
He can be replaced.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I agree, he can be. That would be my preferred option too. But keeping him is not a disaster either.
Of course he can be replaced. He's not worth £300k a week.
We're meant to pay players that, not you.
would you rather pay Rooney 300k/week or be stuck in Europa League purgatory with Liverpool?
you dont have to spend like for like. there are other teams in the world who are successful, more successful than united without rooney playing for them
look at the players we missed out over the summers, Lucas moura, Eden Hazard, thiago and then we put in joke undervalued bids for bale and fabrecunt. we miss out on those players by a few million and then turn around feed 19 million a year to that fat bastard.
you dont think those players mentioned combined couldnt fill rooney's void? absolute rubbish how this fucker is being put on a pedestal when players like van nistelrooy, Stam, keane, ince, beckham were kicked to the curb the second they were trying to be bigger than the club
No team has been more successful than United in the Premier League with Rooney. If you all want to pretend he wasn't a huge part of that domination, then fair enough.
Cavani, Suarez, and Aguero are the only strikers I'd swap Rooney for, and I think you can see the problem United would have signing a couple of them.
Cavani, Suarez, and Aguero are the only strikers I'd swap Rooney for, and I think you can see the problem United would have signing a couple of them.
Dutch Gronk
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I'm pretty sure they were just scared of Stam. Can't blame them though.
Zlatan?
Obvious answer seems to be play 4-2-3-1
---------------RVP
Januzaj--Rooney--Mata
-------Fellaini-Carrick
Januzaj and Mata cutting in from the wings.
That's a damn good attack.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Only if our full backs are on song.
Actually Rooneys biggest and most important asset is his flexibility. As in the number of positions he can play in. None of the players mentioned can provide us with that. But having said that we now have Mata as our go to no. 10 if we buy a top striker say Cavani then yes I wouldnt mind seeing him leave. But what are the chances of us being able to attract a talent of that level without UCL whih is a very real possibility?
Mr.Marston
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Rooney won't play there.
KidA Seven
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I've always liked the number 7 due to my birthday being on the 7th. One more reason for Januzaj to be number 7.
pls
33 this year. Lazy. Amazing talent and physique though. One of my favourite players in the world.
Read my post again. I was talking about him as a striker, because even without his other qualities as a player, he is still a top class finisher. The two seasons in which he was our main man up front, he hit around 35 goals in them.
I know Rooney can be replaced, any player can be, but there is a dearth of top class strikers atm.
He's 32.
Rooney is as good as United will get without spending absurd transfer fee and wages.
KidA Seven
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Rooney will only play as a CAM or as the top striker. His flexibility pisses him off.
isn't he the highest paid player in the world too? can't imagine him wanting to leave PSG or PSG willing to let him go.
Not even close. Ronaldo is making €21m a year POST-tax now which would mean he's being paid over €30m a year pre-tax. This means he is being paid about £25m a year pre-tax which is about £481k per week. As an FYI, that's £17.5m/£337k post tax.. but this figure is never given in the PL). I think Ronaldo's pre-tax number is probably somewhere around €30.9m but I just went with €30m for the calculation to make things easier.
That's what I was thinking, but from what we've seen from Moyes, he hasn't shown the tactical ability to successfully implement this system at United. Maybe he's been hampered by the poor quality of players to choose from, but I still have some worries. But if he could get all three switching positions with each other during the game than we could see some very good football.
And for that formation to work we'd need a quality cm/dm to hold the midfield together. We currently lack that.
We could sell him. It's the factor of who get in too replace in.
If one fullback is going to get forward to overlap (Raphael), the other needs to be a pretty good defender(Evra) and be able to get back and support the CB's.
Really need a Evra replacement.
Yes he will. He played there last year and this year. Where does he think he will be playing?
In your current position you can't sell him unless you have a replacement lined-up.
I wonder if the Rooney that wanted to leave the strongest club in England so many times would stay long term if United keep struggling (regardless of the money he would be paid). I think he'll just bring more drama down the road.
It's amazing though how Arsenal are at the top of the table despite losing RVP. If rebuilding is about letting go of the past it's best Rooney leaves this summer imo, he's been far too disrespectful.
It's amazing though how Arsenal are at the top of the table despite losing RVP. If rebuilding is about letting go of the past it's best Rooney leaves this summer imo, he's been far too disrespectful.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Basic economics are in favour of keeping him though tbh. An extra £2.4 million per year is probably way cheaper than shipping him off and buying someone of similar quality the way the market is now.
KidA Seven
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The good thing about Mata is that it might motivate Moyes to start playing better football. Better football will improve RVP, Januzaj, and Shinji (if he stays). I fail to see how we can get the best out of Mata if the team continues to play the same shit style of football currently. No movement means we can't exploit Mata's vision and passing.
He'll be similar to Shinji. The only difference is that even when the football is shit, he can provide that individual piece of magic to win a game which Shinji can't do.
He'll be similar to Shinji. The only difference is that even when the football is shit, he can provide that individual piece of magic to win a game which Shinji can't do.
At the very least, this squad would beat United in penalties.
Dutch Gronk
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Well he was just talking about better strikers than Rooney and I mentioned Zlatan. Don't see him leaving Paris, just think he's a better striker than Rooney is.
Holy shit dude, you just seem to see this issue exactly as I see them. In the ten yrs with us, his stats are up there.
Economically, it is much better to increase his salary than it is to sell him and go after these players who will cost a fortune, and that's not taking into account that noneof them are available for sale.
That article was probably a bit older and referencing his salary prior to his massive raise he got when he re-upped this summer.
KidA Seven
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Only because it will get him a better contract or it can get him away from United to another big club.
Don't see how pushing salaries so high is going to work for most clubs in the near future. Clubs should draw a line and show players the exit door if they ask for irrational salaries.
I actually think Rooney is somewhat underrated by Manchester United-GAF, he's easily your best player and one of the best (top5) in Premier League. He's vital for your team, but even so I wouldn't want to extend such player if he's asking for that kind of money. I would rather sell him and use the transfer fee + salary money to sign 2-3 great young players.
I was making a rant yesterday when I discovered Götze is making €7M per year at Bayern. And now I read this, unbelievable.
I actually think Rooney is somewhat underrated by Manchester United-GAF, he's easily your best player and one of the best (top5) in Premier League. He's vital for your team, but even so I wouldn't want to extend such player if he's asking for that kind of money. I would rather sell him and use the transfer fee + salary money to sign 2-3 great young players.
I was making a rant yesterday when I discovered Götze is making €7M per year at Bayern. And now I read this, unbelievable.
LabouredSubterfuge
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It would be a big gamble to assume his fitness record will remain reliable as he gets older. At least Roon is the right side of 30 and could play with Mata behind him (which will probably be pretty brutal).
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