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Football Thread 13/14 |OT14| Juan Flew Into The Slug's Nest
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GHG
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Only punishes slow sloppy defenders but consistently terrorises and scores/assists against the defences of Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham and Man United.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/features/btn-walcott
Ooooookkkkk then.
Name me all of the other wingers in the top european leagues who have scored 14 or more league goals.
I don't understand why Arsenal reduced Liverpool's allocation. With Spurs I understood because our fans simply don't like one another and aggression can be an issue but to my knowledge our supporters and Liverpool's are not violent towards one another so it's hard to fathom what security concerns Arsenal are talking about.
Shanks D Zoro
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HAHAHAHA, yes walcott is fast and a good finisher. I watched the first 4 videos and they all back up what I say. He just knocks the ball past people and run. Quality defenders have always been able to handle him.
Why did you have to show the liverpool game, that is one of the angriest I have ever been as an Arsenal fan.
I have been to the Emirates a ton of times and just looked at Walcott, the stuff you dont see on the telly. His movement is awful and he is always so reactionary.
GHG
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Actually one of his best traits is his movement. He's constantly making runs in behind that don't get spotted by other players. His movement (along with his pace) are his 2 primary attributes that allow him to rack up the numbers year after year.
So go on, give me a list of wingers in the top european leagues who have scored more than 14 league goals over the past 3 years.
I also suggest you read this as it puts some of his numbers into perspective:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/features/btn-walcott
He has been in development for a long time (and still is in a lot of ways), but it is wrong to critisise him for what he has produced for us over the last 3 seasons. He has been remarkably consistent.
Not a huge surprise though, is it. He'll still be unspeakably hard five years from now, but he looks old at times.
Ref who sent off Ronnie is getting chewed to pieces. Christ.
Shanks D Zoro
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City were sloppy in defense this season. Tottenham were god awful when he inspired that comeback. Hey he is a good player and has great games now and again. but he lacks consistency and relies on others making mistakes.
Also, it is not hard to name the amount who have done it. Just of the top of my head without checking wikipedia El Shaz did it last year at the age of 20!!! Berardi already has 11 goals. Gervinho scored 15 before coming to Arsenal. Pires put in a few back to back 1 goal seasons.
Anyways none of that really concerns me.
The game at the weekend against palace, would Walcott have made a difference???
Edit: I guess Bale and Lamela too
LabouredSubterfuge
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The thing I'm worried about in the summer is that not only do we need expensive first teamers, but we also need to bring in new squad players in some positions too.
Shanks D Zoro
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Yeah he's past his best and that's no good for United. Not surprising but it always is kinda surprising when a player with his length of service calls it a day with a club.
Edit: the second part of your post! WTFFFFF. Suspended for a month and banned from ref'ing Real Madrid games. Has this come straight from the King of Spain?
if I see my upstairs neighbor tomorrow morning, this is the face i'm giving him.
fuck off
Shatner's Bassoon
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John Terry will go to United next season.
KidA Seven
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We can just promote some youngsters. Vermijl, Lingard, Powell, and Keane (pls no)/Thorpe should be ready for next season.
Shanks D Zoro
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same here in Korea. The idea of copyright means nothing to them.
There has been history in the past with violent incidents involving inebriated Liverpool fans, compounded by a late kick off.
Plus the saftey issue isn't directly with the away fans, but the people in the boxes below the away fans in the upper tier. There has been history of spitting and the like.
http://youtu.be/5jFuVLFln0A
:lool
After City (of course) I think Juventus do the best YouTube stuff.
GHG
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Pires lol. Thats not even remotely recent. Roll out the zimmerframe and get this guy on the pitch in place of Theo.
I said top leagues, Gervinho doesn't even really count but we bought him anyway and Theo outshined him (so what does that in itself tell you?)
So we have:
Bale
Lamela (is flopping in England)
El Sha
Reus
C Ronaldo
Gervinho (we bought and flopped in England)
And thats it (unless I've missed somebody). So you say he's not starting material, but who exactly should we replace him with? The fact that the list above are the only Wingers who can equal or better him statistically says it all. He's a top class winger and the best winger England currently have. Very much deserves a starting place in our team for what he offers us and the work he's put in on his game over the last 5 years.
More reading:
http://eplindex.com/34533/evolution-theo-walcott-stat-analysis.html
Also, name me another player that doesn't rely on other players making mistakes? Every goal that has ever happened is preventable at some stage. Its just that some players are better at exploiting and punishing mistakes than others. And thats what seperates the top players from the rest.
Just had a fun experience in FIFA 14's career mode playing as AFC Wimbeldon vs. St. Pauli in a pre-season friendly after making a late 3 man substitution...
Alright, I'm a goal behind, might as well make some drastic changes, see what I can get.
Hmmm... I know it's a friendly, but I don't think you're allowed to play in the training kit.
Wait, why do I have 14 players out on the pitch?
Oh of course, they moved the subs bench out on the middle of the pitch.
I was going to post another pic of them all 3 sitting on top of each other, but the game crashed. Truly, this is the next generation experience I've always dreamed of. Thanks EA!
From the console screenshot thread. Amazing.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I'm not convinced by most of them tbh, apart from Powell who I'm not convinced of as a CM and who is vying for a place in a highly contested position.
Looking at it another way, if we're getting rid of Fabio and Buttner because they're not good enough, on what planet is Vermijl better than even those two?
Shanks D Zoro
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I had said Pires before seeing your most recent thing. You also missed out El Shaz who scored 16 and actually you can't even include Walcott in this list because he hasn't errrrr scored 15 goals in the league
Berardi will do it this year and he is under 20.
Walcott has one good season of scoring and you act like he is a god. Let us see him repeat it again. Oh wait we have to wait till next season.
He is a good player, and could have been one of the greatest. But he has no skill. He is missing out on so many goals and assists because he just can't beat his man consistently without the pace.
The only thing that was so shit about Gervinho was his finishing, otherwise he would have been a much better player than Theo. Theo didn't outshine Gervinho. We were expecting the wrong things from him.
Edit: As for the bit you added in later. Just watch top class wingers. They put defenders under pressure. They back them and force them into mistakes that they exploit..
Gareth Bale
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Walcott's only scored 14 or more goals in a season once in his career.
Shanks D Zoro
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yep. he scored 21 in all competitions. To some of my fellow Arsenal fans that translates into good enough for 20 goals a season.
LabouredSubterfuge
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My ideal shopping list would be 1 backup RB, 1 starting LB, 1 backup LB, 1 CB, 2 CMs & 2 wingers.
brokenbeans
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Stag do in Manchester this weekend where is the best place to get my mate smashed?
Shanks D Zoro
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There is some cabaret club that I went once. i was with a bunch of Wolvo lads and we had a blast in there. Good place to get smashed and get it on with girls, because there were tons on hen nights.
i was like what the fuck at first, but it turned out to be a great night.
http://www.birdcagelive.com/
KidA Seven
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I agree Fabio is better, but Vermijl is actually really solid. Buttner is terrible and isn't better than Vermijl. The only reason why he's in the first team is because he's older. He's doing well in the Eredivisie as well on loan. I've considered Vermijl better than Varela for a while as he's more solid defensively. He would be a decent back up for Rafael.
I'm not convinced of Powell as a CM, but he should be a good addition to the attack.
Remember, I'm only regarding them joining the team as squad members and not as full blown first teamers like Januzaj.
This reminds me of a bug I had last night but because the useless PS4 share feature only works when it wants to, I couldn't record it.
Anyway I was getting beat and it was lagging like fuck so I just tried to snap as many of his players as I could, to be a cunt and cost him healing cards/coins. Anyway the ref played advantage like 4 times before the ball finally went out of play.
So it starts the animation of him running, but another player moves in and blocks his path. So this player and the ref are just stuck to each other, turning around in a circle endlessly, both trying to get past each other... I was creased but the time kept running. Eventually (after 20 mins in game) he reset but before the dude could take his freekick the ref ran towards him and started running around the ball - he had to change the taker so the ref would fuck off so he could take the kick. Even after he took it the ref ran back to the centre circle and just ran back and forth over this 10 yard area.
I was fucking howling. Eventually I realised he'd booked 4 of my players in one go.
His only business in munich would be visiting dr. müller wohlfahrt
well, he goes there already, doesn't he? I thought he was in Munich just a few days ago because of it. It's a real shame, such a great player
His only business in munich would be visiting dr. müller wohlfahrt
He isnt specialized into spinal disorders. Gündogan is leaving and I hope not to Bayern as Kroos is by far the better player.
Gundogan is a much more complete player than Kroos will ever be, but Kroos is better suited for our system. And that rumor smells like BS. Kroos is going to renew eventually
Vidic 😭.
We are gonna miss u. Best CB during his prime. He could have still played as a squad player and helped develop our younger CBs.
Evra, Rio and Giggs thinking of calling it a day is good news. They all should have retired last summer.
Moyes has a major rebuilding job in front of him. As if midfield wasnt enough now he has to refresh the defence too.
We are gonna miss u. Best CB during his prime. He could have still played as a squad player and helped develop our younger CBs.
Evra, Rio and Giggs thinking of calling it a day is good news. They all should have retired last summer.
Moyes has a major rebuilding job in front of him. As if midfield wasnt enough now he has to refresh the defence too.
I hope so. We are stacked with midfielders. But I think Pep is crazy enough to realize his vision with 10 midfielders as starters.
The_Hitcher89
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#JohnsonSterlingWelbeck
#WorldCup2014
#ThreeMusketeers
#PrideOfEngland
Anyone who thinks Walcott is anything less than really good is a mug
#WorldCup2014
#ThreeMusketeers
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Anyone who thinks Walcott is anything less than really good is a mug
He's bailing out of that sinking ship while he still can.
I don't like the Idea of getting him, I somehow like Kroos. (If he's in the right mood to play...)
It wouldn't surprise me if that rumor came from inside Bayern to put pressure on Kroos.
Like Yohan Kebab? Oh sorry, Newcastle is not even a ship. More of a sunken Kayak(?).
If Bayern really gets him, the crying of Watzke is going to be unbearable. I know that Gündogan is on Bayerns list and if he joins for free after his contract ran out, than its smart but its still daft to get him.
Yep. Thats what I think too. They did that with City and Boateng when Bayern was "suddenly" interested in Chelseas Alex.
Shanks D Zoro
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Who me? I think he is above average. Nothing top tier.
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